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Bitter feminist hissy fit

Filed under: General — JohnPotter @ 8:34 am Fri 17th June 2005

Alexis Stuart

God does not think like MP John Tamihere and feminism hasn’t gone far enough. Men don’t wake up in the morning to give power away.

One can only assume that these claims from the Wellington Town Hall explain why Telecom and Westpac chose to sponsor the 2005 Women’s Convention June 3-7, their banners dwarfed by “Lesbian Nation”.

The sponsorship from five government departments was predictable: the Ministry of Women’s Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, Ministry for the Environment, Statistics New Zealand and the Ministry of Health.

The Ministry of Women’s Affairs armed everyone with a copy of the Action Plan for New Zealand Women and I heard ‘two ticks Labour’ more than I care to remember. The conference was to have an influence on government policy, but the decisions were already made. The ideologues could then talk to themselves via the authority of a public convention.

Feminism is imploding. The ideologues might still have power but contemporary feminism is no longer attractive to the average suburban mother because it is no longer feminism; it is recycled Marxism.

The Women’s Convention was not about women. Nor was it about equality. It was about state control. A dour Leninism barely stifled under the breath of a bitter hissy fit.


  1. David,
    precisely mate. Well put.

    Comment by Stephen Gee — Wed 22nd June 2005 @ 9:15 am

  2. I’m sorry JohnP but I think femminism isn’t imploding – I think it’s evolving, and expanding, and at a phenomenal rate. The state femminism is at ( or whatever it is called now) at the moment is scary enough. I hate to think where it will be in even 1 years time. The influence it has at the moment is scary enough – you just have to look for it (i.e on TV) – it’s everywhere, we have just grown to accept it and we men don’t realise just how bad it is. Just think of all the stories of all you fathers out there who have had to live in sheds, or go without eating for days just to pay maintenance to your ex ( probably to fund her latte’s/cappacinos) and I shiver at the state this country is in. The fact that Uncle Helen Clark is a hardcore, anti-male feminist shows why the Womens Convention took place. It IS about women, and it’s about women WITH state control.

    Comment by Moose — Fri 24th June 2005 @ 1:28 am

  3. Perhaps feminist power is still expanding, but we’re pretty close to the high tide mark as far as I can see. The reason our society has gone to such an extreme is that the average NZ citizen still believes that feminism is about equality, which resonates with the egalitarian values shared by most of us.

    As most readers of MENZ Issues will know only too well however, modern feminism is actually focused power and control (by the sisterhood over everyone else), and when voters fully appreciate this there will be an inevitable backlash.

    Will it come this election? I suspect not – although individual politicians from all over the political spectrum are finally raising these issues, there hasn’t been much impact on party policy yet.

    Sooner or later though, someone will wake up to the fact that most voters do not share feminist anti-male, anti-family values, and the tide will go out again.

    Comment by JohnP — Fri 24th June 2005 @ 9:32 am

  4. Too true. The fact that it is takeing a long time for enough people to realise the extent of this issue means it will go ( and has gone ) too far than necessary, as the momentum carries it on past what is should. I guess this also goes for alot more things than just femminism in society.

    Comment by Moose — Fri 24th June 2005 @ 1:40 pm

  5. Interesting discussion.
    I too don’t see signs of feminism in NZ imploding. To the contrary I get the impression NZ has become a bastion of feminism which is now according to recent media reports (NZ Stuff and NZ Herald) increasingly attracting women from around the globe whilst simultaneously repelling it’s menfolk either to other countries or marginalising and ghettoising them within NZ -(Think prisons, low class accomodation, lower academic achievement, blue collar jobs, substance abuse addictions, suicide, less longevity and more morbidity – like the Australian aboriginal problem only instead it’s NZ males)

    John I believe you’re correct to assert that people are gradually waking up to the fact that NZ society is now misandric. I have a point of view that IMO fleshes that out which I’d like to share.

    Namely this. When a culture despises a certain segment of it’s population (be it Jews, Gypsies, Blacks, Men, whoever) that system is sustained by rewards for those who subsequently bask in power. Such social systems keep themselves in power by telling themselves that what they’re doing is fair, equitable, community minded (add your own nice sounding homilies and think of 30 odd years of feminist brainwashing here). This is precisely what the Nazzis and Stalinists did, hence I have no shame in calling present day feminists feminazzis.

    But what can effect change is when the rewards lessen and punishments increase to a point that such corrupt and malevolent systems being sustained becomes too unatractive to bear any longer (as happened with the collapse of NAzzi Germany and later with the end of Communism at the end of the Cold War, and the collapse of Apartheit in South Africa). In all cases punishment was administered to those perpetrators of abuse. These included many different forms of sanctions.
    I believe therefore that what men have to overcome in NZ and elsewhere is thier chivalric conditioning to protect women as though they were the weaker and morally superior sex.
    I know what I’m saying here is probably singing to the choir, but to date I see little eveidence that men in NZ are prepared to punish feminists.

    Our job then is to name and shame the abusers and raise the consciousness of the general public about the plight of men in a misandric social system. Also to thwart by whatever reasonable methods we can think of the advance of those who are feminist from positions of power and influence, AND thier collaborators.
    I am clear about one other thing too. I did not call to be slated by feminsts as the enemy, nor for thier war on men. But sadly I find myself as a male time and again targetted by thier demonising propoganda.
    I’m prepared to battle on mindful of two precepts of war.
    ‘Jus ad Bellum’ and ‘Jus in Bellum’ – Just cause for war and Just actions in war.

    Comment by Stephen — Sun 26th June 2005 @ 7:15 pm

  6. Stephen,

    Wonderful to hear such sense in amongst the wilderness.

    And I also agree with your precepts for the “battlefield”. A pity in some ways that we need to take up arms against the aggressor.

    However, New Zealand and all of her children deserve a much better outcome.

    Comment by Ethos — Tue 19th July 2005 @ 10:45 am

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