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John Tamihere – Investigate interview

Filed under: General — JohnPotter @ 10:59 am Fri 8th April 2005

Prime Minister Helen Clark says she is concerned about Labour MP John Tamihere’s latest criticism of his cabinet colleagues, and thinks the MP has been under stress.

Mr Tamihere’s extraordinary comments have been published in Investigate magazine after a conversation with its editor Ian Wishart.

Tamihere told Investigate magazine:

“Heather Simpson – Helen’s assistant – wanted me in the tent as damaged goods. Too tough to lose completely. She’s dangerous, a very dangerous woman.”

Asked what was the most powerful network in the Labour executive “the Labour Party Wimmins division… it’s about an anti-men agenda”

“(Prime Minister Helen) Clark has been brutalised by people who have called her lesbian, no children and all the rest of it. Her key advisor Heather Simpson is a butch, and a lot of her support systems are, Maryann Street and so on, and she’s very comfortable in that world and comfortable with it. I’m not.”

“Men’s problems are traditionally dealt with by the criminal justice system. Women, on the other hand, get a bloody Cartwright Inquiry and get millions of dollars thrown at their breasts and cervixes.”

Rodney Hide’s blog has an additional Tamihere quote:

“They [Helen Clark and her mates] don’t have families. They’ve got nothing but the ability to plot.”

to which a commenter has added pertinantly:

“His comment about families is what all of us think. Socialist ideologues tend to be children from the previous generations ‘middle-class’ who don’t have close families. ”

John Tamihere will be the keynote speaker at the Men’s Issues Summit in Auckland on May 6th.
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  1. Finally someone in Wellington stands up for men in NZ. Good on John for apologising for getting caught out but not for the actual comments. Iys astounding to think that we have such an extreme minority infriltating the executive of this government to suit their own twisted purposes. What out Helen 7 Heather. We know all about you and you’ve just been put on notice.

    Comment by Mark Lloyd — Fri 8th April 2005 @ 11:44 am

  2. There seems little evidence that such a conspiracy theory is true – rather the paranoid rantings of angry or jealous men.

    Such as the outbursts quoted may be based on fact or simply the cynical courting of media attention.

    Perhaps Mr. Tamihere is laying the ground-work for a change of company.

    Comment by Kai O'Donnell — Fri 8th April 2005 @ 12:32 pm

  3. Kai, are you a recent immigrant from Afganistan? I trust you will be able to attend this Mens Issues Summit. I am sure you will learn a lot!!!

    Comment by Bryan — Fri 8th April 2005 @ 1:31 pm

  4. Congratulations must be extended to J T for putting his head out for the New Zealand Father and Family. Please tell him I admire the truth!

    Comment by Peter Burns — Fri 8th April 2005 @ 3:02 pm

  5. Kai, I am delighted to see John T has finally come out and said what to many of us seem totally obvious and pertinent things on men’s issues in NZ. It’s just a pity he had to wait to do so until he was thrown out of cabinet. Now I suppose many, perhaps yourself included, will say he’s only saying such things because he’s bitterly disappointed having been demoted.
    I’m afraid his message and the truth it speaks for many of us disaffected blokes will thereby fall upon many deaf ears, unless there’s information promulgated to back up his assertions. That will no doubt be created at the soon to be held Men’s forum. The challenge will then rest with the Socialist-feminists to use thier extensive media networks (lace curtain) to block such facts being properly promulgated and/or try to taint the character of those spreading the facts of men’s condition in NZ with denigrations designed to make them look untrustworthy. I hope that’ll be largely impossible however in a society which also gets it’s news and views via internet rather than from the mainstream media however.
    Further IMO the PM will trust John T as much as a lace parachute.
    I’d even wager that right now he’s being shadowed all over by the PMs office and thier fem networks.

    Interesting times.

    Comment by Stephen Gee — Fri 8th April 2005 @ 10:54 pm

  6. Helen and co. being as they are, does give rise to theories.
    I think she would of been better to marry Paul Holmes over Peter Davis, two uglies make a right
    The whole bunch appear to be an international joke, with the trouser wearing holier than the Queen incident (we are not amused) to the Japanese PM having a supposed fascination with old mailboxes, Yeah right. Imagine the Japanese were heard laughing in China.

    Comment by Ian — Mon 11th April 2005 @ 9:12 pm

  7. I look forward to attending the Men’s Issues Summit on May 6th 2005. I strongly believe there is a huge gap in society, it needs filling with men.. Its my intention to help create a Mens Ministry of Affairs. I am doing Social Policy at Weltec, New Market. I have chosen Men’ affairs. Bring it on John Tamihere. See you there.

    Comment by Jennie Templeton — Thu 14th April 2005 @ 9:31 pm

  8. Kai, you leave me stunned and amazed that the anti-Clark and her worshippers have not impinged on your consciousness.

    There may not be a conspiracy, but the facts are very hard to deny. The anti-Clark and most of her cabinet people are either funny girls or funny boys. They only ever make up 2% of the population and, funnily enough, homosexuality is a self-defeating prophecy because there can be no off-spring of such a union.

    My thanks go out to JT for having the bollocks to stand up and say the things that needed to be said. NZ is being socially re-engineered by a group of people with some very warped agendas and it needs to stop.

    When will the Ministry of Mens Affairs appear? Will it be funded to the tune of $40 million per annum for the salaries of 40 employees (you have to guess what the main gender will be)?

    It is time for the anti-Clark and her worshippers to go! Bring back balance in New Zealand!

    I’m looking forward to the next round of JT vs the anti-Clark.

    Comment by Sparx — Mon 18th April 2005 @ 8:09 am

  9. Thought this might be something you could relate to

    July 2005

    A Fathers Words

    To be hunted is a tough thing.
    Firstly this country took from me my children. They took them and in so doing took away my reason to live. Why did they take them? Because I am a man and the woman chose I should not be in their lives and they in mine.
    The devastation of losing your children is beyond description, yet because the parents could not agree the father is thrown out and tossed aside….worth nothing!
    But I am a man. Unlike so many in this country. “I will fight for rightness and justice” so I did. I fought and I fought. I almost lost my business. I had to pay and pay and pay just for the right to fight. Who was I fighting? I fought a woman’s decision to take away my kids. A woman’s decision made out of bitterness nothing else! And this decision was defended by our country and its “justice system”.
    The country poured thousands of dollars into the fight. They paid for everything to fight against me. Half a million dollars I cost the country, for what? Just so I could be part of my children’s lives.
    Nobody won this but the bitter demons and lawyers. Those greedy creatures that promote and profit off other peoples misery.
    So my children have both their mother and their father now. I can be a father or can I? The damage caused by the fight is enough to cause a lifetime of pain and suffering. But no the country cannot take my children that way so they try another.
    I am told to pay a tax on my children. I live for them and look after them half of the time. I get no support for this but the mother does! Not only do they have the legal right to make up the tax based on income I don’t make, now I am told to pay for the mothers DPB. To pay this atrocious tax I could never live in a house. I could never care for my children. They would take them from me again.
    So do I pay this tax and lose my children. No it is a violence against all that is good andf right. I will never pay it.
    But now they hunt me. I cannot work for wages. I cannot own anything for they hunt me to remove any wealth I may have. I am now a criminal because I love my children and my money has gone for their lives not the government.
    To love your children makes you a criminal in New Zealand. They will never stop no matter that it has already cost them more than they could ever get from me. No they will continue and when I am unable to or refuse to pay, they will jail me.
    What then of my children. What of my son who lives with me 100%. What will happen to him? They will take him away again and force me to accept a father can never be part of his children’s lives. I was a fool to try and now I am a criminal.
    What terrible country does this? What terrible people allow this? All I want is to share in my children’s lives and live peacefully. Who watches while this violence occurs. Who does nothing to help the victim of such terrible actions.
    New Zealand is the country and New Zealanders are the people. My own people allow me to be destroyed simply because I am a man.

    But when I sit in my jail cell and look out the bars. When I think of the production my country will lose by jailing me. The cost of locking me away instead of letting me work.
    I will remember my children. The pride on their faces and in their hearts when they understand their father loved them. When they grew into their unique identities only a father can give they will know I never deserted them. When they turn down drugs and the need for baseless sex to feel loved. I will know that tho this country tried, yes tho they even jail me….they have failed to stop me being a father.

    Comment by Richard knight — Thu 28th July 2005 @ 4:35 pm

  10. Sorry everyone. Re: Richard Knight, love your comments, have been trying to find you, would love to hear from you, 0274740119.
    Dreams mum

    Comment by Chrissy Pearson — Tue 18th April 2006 @ 4:18 pm

  11. Just wanted to let you know that YOU are welcome to become involved with the Family Building Centre movement. Fathers, Mothers, Sisters, Brothers, Grandparents, Aunties, Uncles, and especially people who find themselves on their own, without a loving family to support them, everyone is equally welcome.
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    Comment by Annebeth Riles Broad — Fri 30th June 2006 @ 3:03 pm

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