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Where have all the Kiwi blokes gone?

Filed under: General — JohnPotter @ 8:41 pm Wed 6th April 2005

Researchers have given fresh weight to the complaint of many single women – there aren’t enough men.

Kiwi men in their relationship-forming years have disappeared in their thousands, says social scientist Dr Paul Callister.

The result is that men are increasingly outnumbered.

Since 1991, the census has shown a widening gap between the number of women and men aged between 20 and 49, reversing a long history of men having the numerical advantage.

In 1986 there were 700 more men than women in that age group, but by 1991 women had started pulling ahead.

By 2001, the census counted 53,000 more women than men aged 20-49, or just under 7 per cent more women. About 1.5 million Kiwis are in this age group.

Callister and Professor Richard Bedford of Waikato University are to probe migration and census data in countries such as Australia to find out what has happened to the Kiwi men.


  1. Georgina Beyer might encapsulate the answer????

    Comment by Bryan — Wed 6th April 2005 @ 8:46 pm

  2. Not enough men…now THAT is good news!

    Comment by tonyf — Wed 6th April 2005 @ 10:08 pm

  3. The feminazi’s and genderbender freaks love destroying real men!

    Comment by Peter Burns — Thu 7th April 2005 @ 9:06 am

  4. A males world looks something like this in New Zealand.
    – you are born and go into an educational system that is failing you.
    – your world is threaded with a media that continually sends out the message that most things negative in society are you fault. It also constantly presents your gender in advertising as bumbling, stupid and worthy of ridicule.
    – That has probably depressed you into two options, kill yourself, which is one of the only things you are demonstrably successful at, or depart for other countries who might be more prepared to embrace you as having some worth.

    These are factors that certainly contribute or have contributed.

    Comment by Adi O Cathain — Thu 7th April 2005 @ 10:31 am

  5. Good comment Adi O Cathain. I would add to that the men who have tried to start a family, and lost their family, and the men who are discouraged from trying to start a family. I have two grown-up sons who do not plan to have families in NZ, for these reasons.
    The situation for young women is also bleak- when I was young it was always said that men were only after one thing- snigger. In fact what most young men were actually after was a wife and mother for their children. Now that that is no longer a realistic expectation, a marriage or child raising relationship carrying too much financial and emotional risk, The most likely outcome of a family relationship for a man is to end up back single, but with crippling financial costs, and even more emotionally crippling loss of his children. I would imagine that more or less casual sex would be the only attraction in women now.
    How sad to meet young women doing everything they can to attract a man from the dwindling pool into a stable relationship. Instead of the expectation of meeting a nice man, and perhaps a family,how sad it is to see them having to settle for just ‘good sex’ and whatever consolation they find in their career.
    “Isn’t it wonderful I can have a career instead of JUST being a mother” sounds rather sad to me.
    Fortunately, their are other more family focussed cultures waiting to take our place when we become extinct- now isn’t that nice?

    Comment by John Brett — Thu 7th April 2005 @ 5:50 pm

  6. The Census is a important source of information. One we must all be able to trust. One that enables researchers to analogise information with confidence.

    It is an offence not to fill it in. That’s how important it is.
    Correct me if I am wrong. $500 fine if you don’t. So important that the Ministers and Executive have publicly stated that they would prosecute anybody caught not filling it in.

    I am still waiting to be prosecuted for 2006. I even asked them. Please prosecute me. Cowards!
    Maybe they thought I would win.

    Lets find out.

    Judge(all Lawyers filled it in) “what is your reason for not filling it in”
    Me(refuse to fill it in) “I wherever possible, refuse to participate in Human Rights Violations, especially acts of sexual bigotry that have perverse resultants”

    Judge “I noticed no such thing, I filled it in, you must be seeing things that nobody else does, or your stupid. There is no Human Rights Violation in the Census, even the Human Rights Commissioner filled it in. That’s proof enough for me to say that’s just absurd rubbish”
    Me “So when you got to the question about the number of children that are biologically yours, did you notice that to the Crown, that only women can be the biological parent to a child”
    Judge “Well it has to be a service for it to be a Human Rights Violation. A question is not a service is it?”
    Me “Depends if you think, ‘knowledge is a service’. Can the Minister of Statistics come to this court as a witness to the information gathered by the Census and answer questions without providing a sexually bigoted response”
    Judge “Like what? I saw no such thing in the Census”
    What happens when information is cross referenced?
    25 year old females with 1 biological child vs 25 year old males with 1 biological child.
    What are there educational achievements?
    What is their income, and where does it come from?
    What are their rates of imprisonment?
    What is their housing situation?
    etc etc etc

    The suppression, manipulation, ignorance, and avoidance of information is what enables the committing of Human Rights Violations.

    Comment by The man in Absentia — Sun 20th July 2014 @ 2:33 pm

  7. When all the profiteering brain boxes back about the time of the transport and waterside reforms were implemented circa 1988 they decided to make half the nations employees casual workers on flat rates. The writing was on the wall for any Kiwi bloke with a bit of a metal spine to leave for a more stable full time employ across the ditch with overtime rates. Now that they have made a quid they come back home with their families to retire further worsening the housing crisis which is certainly not going to help women in the 20-49 age group find a stable settle down mate to have a family with either. NZ always seems to reap the disaster that it sows and asks why – a drunk monkey knows why.

    Comment by Colzy — Sun 25th April 2021 @ 1:30 am

  8. Kiwi Blokes aren’t flavour of the century.

    They kinda died with Barry Crump back in the 90s.

    I’m what is referred to by feminist writers as a bit too blokeish – that’s a polite way of saying you’re not welcome in our world.

    And they do regard it as their world with some hostility.

    Comment by Downunder — Sun 25th April 2021 @ 11:47 am

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