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Big News: Bradford & Kiro Disagree On Smacking

Filed under: Domestic Violence,General,Law & Courts — domviol @ 8:28 pm Tue 13th June 2006

Opinion: Dave Crampton

Big News with Dave Crampton

Bradford & Kiro Disagree On Smacking

Green MP Sue Bradford and Children’s Commissioner Cindy Kiro are in sharp disagreement over Bradfords bill which aims to remove reasonable force as a defence for child discipline from the Crimes Act. Such is the disagreement that Kiro refuses to comment on it and Bradford refuses to clarify her position.

It revolves around the term “violence”.

Both consider child abuse is domestic violence, both want to get rid of child abuse and both consider all forms of physical discipline as violence. Yet Bradford differs in that she considers some forms of physical discipline should not be a criminal offence. That is why she is suggesting an amendment in her bill to clarify that it is not her intention to ban physical discipline and time out. Therefore Bradford does not consider all smacking as physical abuse.

Kiro does, and often points to the Domestic Violence Act 1995.Violence is defined as physical abuse in the Domestic Violence Act, with regards to physical discipline of Children. The problem for Kiro is that the intention of Parliament when the Domestic Violence Act was passed in 1995 was that the term violence did not extend to light physical discipline. The Office of the Children’s Commissioner tried- and failed – to amend the Act so that physical discipline could legally be described as violence to set her up for a bill to repeal Section 59 of the Crimes Act.

Case law has subsequently backed up Parliaments intent.

As all physical discipline is not legally abuse, it therefore cannot legally be classed as violence. Consequently, when Kiro says she wants to get rid of violence, she conflates that term with physical abuse, but fails to say why she refuses to define what she means by violence.

When I rang Kiro to discuss this with her she rudely stated she wasn’t going to comment, and hung up in my ear.

This is really a sore point, isn’t it.



  1. approving this woul mean a whole review of the domestic violence act because one can’t discriminate “its okay to use this amount of violence with children” to “he touched me and its was an act of violence” “i was afraid”.etc.

    either forget about the change or can the DV act altogether and put in something with more common sense.

    Comment by starr — Wed 14th June 2006 @ 12:39 pm

  2. what to spank with
    While you have the option of spanking a butt with a paddle, a whip, or an abundance of other props, I strongly recommend that you start off with your hand. Besides the hand is best as it allows you to get the full feel of the ass-spanking connection.
    onto the spanking

    Now before you start warming up your hand in preparation, remember that there are correct and incorrect ways to spank woman. You can’t just start smacking away at her ass like a maniac.
    No, you need to learn the appropriate way to spank her. That way, it will be enjoyable for her and you will get a thrill out of her reaction. Of course, you have the option of spanking your woman before, during or after sex. But to start, you should spank her exclusively (that means only spanking, not spanking only her).
    Now, it’s time to bend her over your knee how to spank her
    Don’t wind up like a maniac just yet; there is an actual etiquette to spanking women:
    Warm up
    Obviously, I don’t mean that you should jog around the block; rather, rub your hands together to ensure that they’re warm when they connect with her skin.
    Choose the hand
    Although right-handed people tend to use their right hands, you can opt to use whichever hand you’re more comfortable with — or even both, just not at the same time.
    One cheek at a time
    Just to reiterate; never smack both cheeks at the same time; not only will you not be able to do your spanking adequately, you may end up hurting her, in a bad way.
    Position yourself
    Place yourself in a position where you’re able to maneuver freely and accurately. The last thing you want to do is smack her on her back or thigh.
    Keep your hand tight
    By keeping your hand solid and slightly cupping your hand, you ensure a nice sound, a slight sting and a whole lot of pleasure.
    Smack it up
    Remember that you’re aiming for the meatiest part of her butt, which is the middle. After you actually slap her cheek, rub the area with your hand for a moment before you attempt to have another go at it.
    let your hand guide you

    Here are some general guidelines you might want to follow amid your upcoming spankathon .
    Make sure you have ample room
    If you want to spank that bottom right, you need to ensure that you have enough room to raise your arm freely and spank it accordingly. Sit or stand in a position where your arm can swing freely. This leaves less room for unintended mis-smacks .
    Keep the butt in plain view
    Her butt should be bare and fully visible for the act. She can be in the doggy position (tight-butted) or lying down flat (loose butted) — so long as her butt is easily accessible to your hand. Even when she’s riding you, you can still spank her sufficiently.
    Maintain control
    Don’t ask things like “Did that hurt?” or “Can I do it harder?” What you should do is spank her and judge what to do by her reaction. If she screams out in agony or says anything remotely close to “are you trying to kill me?” you should refrain from spanking her any harder.
    If she doesn’t yell out, or better yet if she moans with delight, then I strongly recommend that you spank her slightly harder and don’t forget that you shouldn’t spank her in quick procession. Take your time, this is an art, after all.
    when all is said and done

    Of course, chances are that her butt will be red and sensitive when it’s all over, but keep in mind that there is pleasure in certain kinds of pain, and this is one of those pains where this applies.
    Until next time, enjoy the sound of your hand connecting to her bottom

    Comment by cwb — Sun 2nd July 2006 @ 11:18 pm

  3. damn, sorry, didn’t realise bradford was talking about minors, sorry folks.

    Comment by cwb — Sun 2nd July 2006 @ 11:20 pm

  4. Hi Cwb,

    No 2. comment. “do you get paid for that or are you free?”

    Comment by julie — Mon 3rd July 2006 @ 9:21 am

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