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Child support Seminar held

Filed under: Child Support,General — Julie @ 6:04 pm Tue 4th July 2006

Child Support and custody issues will be discussed during a seminar at the Kelston community Centre tomorrow.

The event, starting at 7.30pm, is being organised by the Auckland Single Parents Trust in conjuction with the North Shore Mens Centre.

Trust spokeswoman Julie says the evening caters for men and women. “It’s about child support and how it works for the paying parent. It’s also about other issues like shared parenting”

Julie says it is important for both parents to try and share the parenting load. “The fact of the matter is it’s stacked against the man. If they’ve been the main provider then that’s what is in the child’s best interest”, she says.

“But one parent ends up getting more access than the other and the other parent’s input is mainly financial”, she says. “If both parents share the children they get more valuable time with both parents who can work out the finances for the children.”

Julie says the domestic purposes benefit often becomes a trap. “We want to encourage people to get off the benefit and to start making a life for themselves”, she says.

Guest speakers will include Jim Bagnall and Jim Bailey from the North Shore’s Men’s Centre.

Western Leader, Tuesday July 4, 2006.

Of course this would not be happening without the support of Mark Shipman, National President of Parents for Children who will be the main speaker.

Amazingly the phone continues to ring with men payers, women payers and women of husbands paying child support wanting to join to change Child Support issues. We welcome anyone to join, attend and gain support from these 3 groups.

Single Parents
Men’s Centre North Shore
Jim Bailey – Hands on Equal Parenting

Interesting Government Statistic to consider
stats on single parents and children


  1. Thanks Julie,
    Wish I had known this was on before tonight as I was in AKL today and it would have been good to come…

    Comment by SNMP — Tue 4th July 2006 @ 6:36 pm

  2. Please correct the organisational name : Mark is National President of Parents for Children.




    Comment by Scrap_The_CSA — Wed 5th July 2006 @ 12:11 pm

  3. Hi Scrap,

    Sorry about that. No wonder I couldn’t find your website. Anyhow, you probably know he will make it to speak. (Thank God)

    Comment by julie — Wed 5th July 2006 @ 2:53 pm

  4. Wow!

    What a turn out we had. We had at leaset 15 people. I want to thank all those that attended.

    From the meeting above it has been decided a regular meeting will be held for men\’s support in Waitakere. It is so badly needed.

    I am so pleased that male\’s that have been through the system turned up to help those who have no idea what to do let alone what is happening to them. Houses will be lost, money will be spent, lives will be harmed and children will miss out on their fathers. But not for some of the males that turned up because they came at an early stage.

    I have never seen so much support for others in any group before. Numbers have been exchanged and e-mail addresses, all to support other men through these hardships.

    Thanks go to the North Shore Men\’s Centre because that is were this has all started from and will continue to receive support from.

    Special thanks to Mark Shipman, Jim Bailey and Jim Bagnall.

    Next month, we hit South Auckland.

    Comment by julie — Thu 6th July 2006 @ 9:32 am

  5. Well done Julie, it’s good to have your know-how and commitment working on this huge but little understood problem.
    I think your involvement will be helping people to realise that it is not just a men’s issue. In the long run all of us, including children, dads, mums, grandparents, taxpayers, social service agencies, even governments, are adversely affected by the cruelty of child tax and child ownership laws.

    Comment by PaulM — Thu 6th July 2006 @ 11:29 am

  6. Hi Paul M,

    Know-how? Are you kidding? Do you have any idea how many men think a female can solve their problems with their wives? This whole experience is teaching me alot. I have decided to halve my study to learn what the men’s centre knows. But I have to learn in a few months, what they have learn’t over 14 years. I am in overload.

    Comment by julie — Thu 6th July 2006 @ 11:53 am

  7. Just to be clear Julie, neither I, nor I hope other men, are asking you to solve problems for us. That would be foolish, because you can’t.

    I’m congratulating you on recognising and being good at attempting to solve what is a collective problem, including a problem for you, your children, and if we are not careful, your children’s children.

    I have no idea how many men think a female can solve a problem with their wives. Is it a lot?

    Comment by PaulM — Thu 6th July 2006 @ 1:51 pm

  8. Hi PaulM,

    I am expecting that you know what I said previously to be false because it was well over exagerated.

    I will try again.

    You asked, “How many?”

    I answer (today), “Maybe 1/6, so very few.”

    Comment by julie — Sat 8th July 2006 @ 4:51 pm

  9. Hi all,

    I have to tell everyone that Mark Shipman, National President of Parents for Children is one of the most amazing guys I have ever meet in my life. He certainly knows his stuff.

    Comment by julie — Mon 10th July 2006 @ 3:44 pm

  10. Jim Bagnall organised a seminar on Child Support in Remuera in 2006. The videos have now been loaded onto YouTube.
    Maybe the scariest aspect, is that so little has changed since 2006?

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Sat 4th August 2018 @ 4:35 pm

  11. #10 There are many scary aspects, not the least of which is the financial and emotional wellbeing of those affected.

    Ask anyone who has had to deal with a leaky home, although that does get a little more media.

    Perhaps one of the most detrimental aspects of these situations is the loss of faith in society and trust in our fellow men.

    You still have that footage after all this time?

    Well done, Murray.

    Comment by Downunder — Sat 4th August 2018 @ 7:32 pm

  12. A collective submission should be put forth to the upcoming family court enquiry to cover what is a raft of issues.

    Comment by mama — Sun 5th August 2018 @ 8:08 am

  13. As Family Court cases are secret it will be interesting to see what restrictions are placed on submitters.

    Comment by Downunder — Sun 5th August 2018 @ 9:35 am

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