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Filed under: General — dpex @ 7:39 pm Tue 11th April 2006

I want/need ‘your’ story.

Please remember I am interested ONLY in dissertations filled with fact, devoid of emotion and ad hominems.

Read Julie’s story again. I say again. It’s raw power is in its lack of emotional pyrotechnics.

If we are to start making a difference we have to go at the ‘system’ with fact, not observation.

And so, I wish to create a fact-file. If you send me your story then you will do so knowing I will transmit it to all and sundry.

Just emember, by wishing to retain your privacy you will also water down the value of your input. In other words, if you have something to say, then be prepared to put your real name to it.

The CYFSterhood hide behind their annonymity and unlisted addresses and phone numbers. Not for us, people. It’s the ‘I’m accountable for my words’ time.

Let’s rock, people! There’s thousands of us. Our weight can make it happen.

Please send your story to [email protected], in Word format. Don’t forget to CC your submission to this site and anyone else you think might read it.

BTW: Who is in charge of the protest regime and how do I get onto he protest group? I’m in.



  1. you ask:

    Who is in charge of the protest regime

    No one is “in charge”. It’s Anarchy out there in the streets.

    how do I get onto he protest group?

    protest organiser contact details

    Comment by JohnP — Tue 11th April 2006 @ 8:08 pm

  2. Don’t go down the protest route.

    Banner waving, screeching through megaphones, egg throwing etc. Not a good look!

    Collate these stories. Put them in a book – You’ll probably have to use first names only. Get a prominant New Zealander on board to help promote this book and the cause. This is a good a responsible way to get attention.

    Looking responsible and rational is the key.

    Comment by jimmy — Tue 11th April 2006 @ 8:15 pm

  3. We are past being reasonable with the unreasonable, someone lend me a bulldozer, I want to track roll the steps of parliament.

    Comment by Bevan Berg — Tue 11th April 2006 @ 8:39 pm

  4. Fine Bevan;
    I understand your rage.

    The way I see it this whole family smashing, children stealing thing has come about because some very nasty people succeeded in casting human affairs in terms of a gender war.

    I for one will not play this game. There are huge injustices going on daily in this country – it sickens my soul. But the way to address these injustices is not by playing the gender warriors game.

    Play it nice. Be reasonable show them to the vile screeching hags they are by being the exact opposite.

    Show that we are responsible adults not petulant children having a tantrum.

    Thats my view. Take it or leave it as you will.

    Comment by jimmy — Tue 11th April 2006 @ 9:15 pm

  5. Helen Clarke is not Adolph Hitler recycled. She is however an unrepentant Socialist and has expressed great antipathy to the Nuclear family in the past.
    Comment by jimmy – Sun 9th April 2006 @ 4:07 pm

    Either you are biological or Aryan – Don’t lie in a bed you wouldn’t want to die in.
    Clark made her choice. What about you. ?

    Comment by Bevan Berg — Tue 11th April 2006 @ 9:23 pm

  6. Take it International as well. United Nations (government has just had a few bad reports about NZ from them, another one showing the sinking NZ families and corruption would not go down well) plus the International Crimes Court, since no one is accountable in NZ (because of the back scratching) I bet they are there.

    Comment by Jadie — Tue 11th April 2006 @ 9:43 pm

  7. Dear David,

    Murray I believe has documented quite a lot of cases, perhaps you should both get together and whatever material he has been authorised to further distribute could well be worthwhile.
    As to Jimmys reservations about the protest actions, we are making an impact and would rather have Jimmy be proactive and rise to the cause than cast negativity around, also egg throwing is assault and the protests are conducted in a legal manner that can be directed at Lawyers, Family Court Judges, Police, Psychologists, CYFS workers.
    ANY agent of the System, that allows by action or inaction, the marginalisation of Fathers from their children will have their activities held to account in public forum in their immediate neighbourhood.


    Comment by paulc — Tue 11th April 2006 @ 11:30 pm

  8. dpex – What do you intend to do with the fact file once you have compiled it ?

    I think sending emails to poilticians is futile – mainly because I believe they would rather die, even if they did believe in our stance, than look bad in front of our now anti-family govt, and also from previous posts here stating they get no responses, or that the view ‘has been noted’ with no further action.

    I think the target audience should be to the public directly, so no censuring can happen, as would inevitably happen through any other way. I agree with Jimmy – A book would give immediate access of this information to the public.

    Comment by Moose — Tue 11th April 2006 @ 11:32 pm

    Stolen Aboriginal girls triumph
    in movie Rabbit-Proof Fence
    by Delia Maxwell
    Rabbit-Proof Fence, directed by Phillip Noyce, made me feel ashamed to be an Australian. Much more positively, though, the movie provoked intense admiration for the courage and resourcefulness of its true-to-life characters.
    Due for U.S. release in June, Rabbit-Proof Fence tells the story of Molly Craig – a remarkable girl who, with her cousin and little sister, successfully defied the system of ripping “half-caste” children away from their Indigenous communities.

    Kidnapping to “assimilate.” In Australia, these children are called the stolen generation

    Comment by cwb — Wed 12th April 2006 @ 9:31 pm

  10. I swear i seen a low flying chicken drop that egg occifer..

    Comment by cwb — Wed 12th April 2006 @ 9:34 pm

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