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Can’t believe it?

Filed under: General — Julie @ 2:22 pm Mon 6th August 2007

Darryl Ward put a notice up on pauls_news to vote for fathers.

The Anglican church is asking what we need to do to stop the bad record of child abuse. One of the offered solutions is to stop forcing fathers out of children’s lives. Great to see they are getting the message. A vote from you would be another voice. And the more voices, the better people hear.

This is what I wrote on a few sites but it seems that only 30 males or pro-males contributed to it. What is wrong here is that males won’t speak up????? Yet you have the opportunity if you want it.

Come on guys even if you are MTGOW can’t you support FRA? Make your voice heard. Now others are stepping up to make your word less but the church needs to hear from you. Please vote. 33 people in the MRA and MRM is pathetic.


  1. The Attitude of the Anglican church appears to be family friendly. (The one I attend certainly is – and it’s the fastest growing in Wanganui) Even if you are fearful that the roof will fall or you will get struck by lightening, let your local church leaders know your views – and support them.

    Comment by Alastair — Mon 6th August 2007 @ 3:12 pm

  2. Julie, don’t be surprised at the low voter response.

    Before a man is going to respond with a definitive answer like put fathers back in families he must first have a holistic appreciation of society, and a realisation that this is in fact the problem. Most blokes are confined to a work to survive environment, and a mind numbing encounter with authority that is telling him that society has totally rejected him. Some of those fathers will be incompetent cot cases; we know that, but not 300,000 — 400,000 magnitudes, that exist in this country, or are absent from this country. The statement recently from the Commissioner for children is a good example. The public has had enough of child abuse “we are at a tipping point” The veiled suggestion here was that the public should turn on men and child abuse will disappear. If there is a tipping point it will be when the public turns on the likes of Kiro, Elias, and Clark, and uncategorically says, we have had enough of your bullshit society. To get a top down change, we are going to have to down the top. It is backed up by emasculated fools like retiring police officer Mark Lamas, suggesting we need more female police officers. Hopefully when he returns from his European vacation he might have grown out of his goldfish eyes. When there is no other way people vote with their feet. MGTOW is another way of saying that, especially for men trapped in a circumstance that they can’t understand. Can you imagine a female reporter walking up to Auntie Helen and saying the Republicans support fathers back in families, what is your response to that, or the Anglican Church supports fathers back in families, what is your response to that. The bottom line — there are a few political bedfellows that need sorting before fathers are back in families

    Comment by Bevan Berg — Mon 6th August 2007 @ 3:59 pm

  3. I voted!

    Comment by Hans Laven — Mon 6th August 2007 @ 6:38 pm

  4. Good call Hans – You vote from the top and I’ll walk from the bottom and if we should ever meet in the middle we will stop and shake hands.

    Comment by Bevan Berg — Mon 6th August 2007 @ 11:08 pm

  5. Julie,

    I think you’ve done pretty well. The vote count is approaching 50 after only 2 or 3 days.

    By contrast, the global blogswarm to vote for AngryHarry as best political blogger took a week to gather 50 votes. Even now, after 2 or 3 months and huge promotion as far as MR goes, only 500 votes have been cast (compared to the 7000+ for Rosie O’Donnell).

    Comment by Rob Case — Tue 7th August 2007 @ 10:01 am

  6. Yes Hans Julie has done well – as has Darryl another of our own and Hans for voting as should we all –

    yet Bevan – you say the “tipping point” will tip to our favour I imagine because you presume their is no other side and what we have reached before we tip is the absolute expression of the damage we have all been made to endure, being logical and without argument.

    Yet what you argue isolates the practice of your thinking and identifies for each why we have arrived at this point so late.

    You blame others for what they have done. You identify others for their failure. This is the problem it is not the cause.

    We want you to stand up and tell them where to go from here. That’s what has been missinig Bevan. Blokes. Your better than your comments, you are way better than your comments. Yet you don’t yet have the confidence of your own conviction and the longer it takes you to apply yourself within that range of gears the longer we have to wait and our children are forced to suffer.

    Comment by Benjamin Easton — Tue 7th August 2007 @ 11:07 am

  7. I gave up on the Anglican church. It’s simply too feminist/feminine. Men in most age groups are under represented numerically, and whilst it is fair to say that most ministers are still male, most newbie intakes are female dominated.
    Besides, I found certain professing christians therein to be quite unchristian. It’s now a very biblical crowd for me …

    Comment by Frank & Earnest — Tue 7th August 2007 @ 6:53 pm

  8. Check out their conference 2007 “Gender, Faith and Politics”

    Comment by julie — Tue 7th August 2007 @ 8:10 pm

  9. With my vote it’s up to 52 which is way more than any other option. I think you just need to get enough people to know it exists.

    Comment by Dave — Wed 8th August 2007 @ 2:05 pm

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