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Dad’s Corner on Kiwi Families

Filed under: General — JohnPotter @ 11:12 am Mon 30th July 2007

Here’s something worth supporting – a parenting website with a link to “Dad’s Corner” right near the top! Although there haven’t been many dads active on their discussion board so far, it could develop into a useful resource.

Hi John,

I’ve just located you through a Google search, whilst looking for men’s support groups.

I’m not sure if you’ve heard of our website,, but since its launch in October last year it’s become the most comprehensive parenting website in New Zealand.

Whilst we have thousands of visitors on site every month, the majority of these are mums. We would very much like to welcome more dads onto the site, and have developed Dad’s Corner with this purpose in mind.

If you follow this link, you will find a new chat room set up just for New Zealand fathers

I’m fronting Dad’s Corner, and would be most grateful if you could let the members of your group know that this online chat and support service is now available. Here Dad’s can share their experiences, joys and frustrations and find support and advice from other fathers throughout the country.

Look forward to seeing you on site.

Best wishes, Ian


  1. John,

    you haven’t replied to the virus that is affecting some of your contributers. Do you know anything about it?

    I cannot read past the first page and scroll down to the next page or click on teh contributions of others on teh site, either in this the computer I mainly use, or the ones in teh library.

    What is you opinion, rules and policy in regards to any external interference with your site and if this is not external, is it something you are employing to limit some writers to the site?

    Most respectfully,
    Benjamin Easton.
    (of a) fathers’ coalition.

    Comment by Benjamin Easton — Mon 30th July 2007 @ 1:17 pm

  2. Benjamin says:

    >you haven’t replied

    If you want to contact me, use the contact form – your comment is not relevant to this page and therefore not appropriate.

    virus that is affecting some of your contributers

    I have no influence over whether computers get viruses or not. Nobody else has reported strange behaviour, and none of the browsers I have access to show anything unexpected.

    I don’t understand your problem – you must be able to scroll down the page to have posted the comment above. Please use the form to explain in more detail.

    something you are employing to limit some writers to the site?

    There should be nothing blocking you other than the spam filters (without which the comments would be full of adverts for viagra, gambling and porn). It may stop you commenting if you make several in a short space of time. If you register as an author and are logged in you can bypass this.

    Comment by JohnP — Mon 30th July 2007 @ 2:11 pm

  3. How cool,

    I have been asking them for this.

    Comment by julie — Mon 30th July 2007 @ 3:12 pm

  4. John,

    There is something wrong as Benjamin says.

    This site is terrible at the libraries. You can’t click any comments and you can’t login. Also the notice board takes up part of the screeen even if you want to read comments. So basically all you can do is read the posts. But at home it is AOK.

    Comment by julie — Mon 30th July 2007 @ 3:15 pm

  5. John,


    Using my Desktop at home I can click on a comment and open it.

    When using my laptop from site 2 I move the mouse over the comments and they disappear.

    The calendar looks fine at home but spreads itself over the screen when I try to scroll down the page at site 2.

    The difference is it runs fine when I use firefox but when I use IE problems are experienced and that can be frustrating.

    Its the same with IE at home as at site 2. Site two uses the mail marshal suite of products.

    Hope that is of some assistance.

    IE version is version 6 Firefox Ver If you want screen shots email me off list.

    I bypass the problem by using the dashboard.



    Comment by Scrap_The_CSA — Mon 30th July 2007 @ 4:17 pm

  6. Sorry,

    Should have used the form.



    Comment by Scrap_The_CSA — Mon 30th July 2007 @ 4:19 pm

  7. Thanks Scrap, Julie & Ben. I can see the problem with IE6 now – I tested IE7 but was obviously slack about the older browsers. I’ll get on to fixing it.

    Comment by JohnP — Mon 30th July 2007 @ 4:27 pm

  8. Gee, John,

    We should have reported the site to you. Sorry about that on my part.

    But this group you are talking about, kiwi families is a group who even approached our group and I am on their mail list. They are doning great things and have been in the Herald recently.
    They have a goal of being the biggest in NZ. To have their support and advocacy is a really good thing. In fact they had one writer who spoke up about men’s health week. That is how I found out about men’s health week. I believe they mean business. lol

    They are open to hearing from the public.

    Comment by julie — Mon 30th July 2007 @ 5:59 pm

  9. NZ is in deep denial about the consequences of fatherlessness in our society. I don’t see anything changing.

    John Campbell interviewed Pita Sharples and also a woman who had a community project to educate people on how to identify potential child abuse and what to do about it.
    Sharples pointed out that these kinds of community groups have the answers but they don’t get government funding – the government goes and does it’s own thing.
    More importantly this woman [forget her name] said that studies showed when a non-related person was in the household it was 50 times more likley for child abuse to occur. Unfortunely she was being so PC she didn’t acknolwedge the importance of biological father involvement – but it was a useful statistic. This is the closest I have seen to anyone mentioning what the real risk factors for children are.

    Comment by Dave — Tue 31st July 2007 @ 3:19 pm

  10. Thank you John,

    I realise full well that I am dominating as relative to posts and that you have proceedures in place in order to compliment an effective resource for the public; specifically men.

    I acknowledge that this is someone elses string and that the purpose of my input is inconsistent with both its message or want not to be disturbed by alienating material.

    Additionally I apologise for the loose shot to encourage a reply wondering openly if you were somehow complicit in the kind of interference I described earlier over my mail yet received no reply – The site works well now.

    But I stand again to honour Jim Bailey for his considerable sacrifices in order to bring the challenge to others where for natural complacency and exploitation they many would face a challenge at their own slow speed. Your website is excellent and an effective resource for many men and families.

    But I don’t want to make my own posts. And why would I comment privately where this is all about making people functional against an employable discretion? I am supporting Jim and his attitude. Guys like him and me we pay the costs for what you guys all complain is being done to you in order to make it stop. We are your champions even though you would kick us about if we make you feel prickly and uncomfortable. Without us you will waste time wavering to the truth where it is only real if it accomodates what you want to have happen while another child gets their teeth kicked in – and we say in unison – “don’t blame men”.

    And marriages get dwarfed into civil unions and babies demasculated while the larger body of males whither into “but it just isn’t right”.

    Dave – I watched the TVNZ news outside the Rotorua Court. The Maori Woman’s Welfare League were out by five in number and in awhi (hugs) with each other. The driving point that was made was that the parents weren’t important to the child and could be removed into the community. Blind to men. Blind to men. Blind to men. I don’t think that view as it was presented would be accepted by Maori where it could be handed as an excuse to let the system loose of its own responsibility.

    Damn right it isn’t right: as not right as complacency lacks balance. complacency balanced.

    Comment by Benjamin Easton — Tue 31st July 2007 @ 3:40 pm

  11. Ben wrote:

    wondering openly if you were somehow complicit in the kind of interference I described earlier over my mail yet received no reply – The site works well now.

    Well, yes as it happens I was responsible – for twiddling with the stylesheet and not thoroughly checking all my browser collection. Sorry about the difficulties it caused anyone.

    Comment by JohnP — Tue 31st July 2007 @ 10:07 pm

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