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Filed under: General — Julie @ 3:09 pm Mon 16th July 2007

From: [email protected]
Subject: 7-13-07: URGENT- I need Florida paternity fraud victims for another TV news story …
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:15:54 -0700

URGENT – FL paternity fraud victims needed for TV news story before Thu. July 19, 2007 . IMMEDIATE NEWS ALERT – NEED SOUTH FLORIDA PATERNITY FRAUD victims for another big TV story on the paternity fraud victims. Are you a paternity fraud victim in Southwest Florida, especially in Ft. Myers, Naples, LaBelle or Punta Gorda?
We have a short deadline to get FL victims to a TV executive producer for a special feature by July 19, 2007.This is another media opportunity from / Carnell Smith. Be a part of the solution, tell a friend!
CALL TO ACTION: The new FL law contains a way to get a legal DNA test by court order. So, do you want to fight back or complain?
Send me your name, phone number and type of Florida case (marital or non-marital) to [email protected] . Please put “FL-PFV for TV” (means Florida paternity fraud victim) on the email subject line. Tell others about this story, get their information to me immediately. Thanks, Carnell Smith aka “Man4Justice”

I know this is not for NZ but it is motivating to know that someone found a way around or should I say a way in!


  1. How wide spread is this in NZ. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that it is any less common than overseas. In NZ a Woman can name any man she likes on her CS claim. IRD are not interested in any defence. She acts as the gate keeper for any attempt to acquire DNA. I suggest that any man required to pay CS have the right to a DNA Test. This is funded initially by IRD then recovered from the “Looser” i.e. as an additional levy on CS or as a debt owed by the mother.

    Comment by Alastair — Mon 16th July 2007 @ 5:42 pm

  2. I agree Alastair. I know a few men paying CS for child/ren that are not theirs. I believe DNA tests should be done before any CS can be claimed by the mother.

    Comment by wendy — Tue 17th July 2007 @ 10:21 am

  3. I’m with you on this as well Alastair.

    It may seem bewildering to many that the state would be so disinterested in determining the truth about parentage, but I have heard only two (unofficial) explanations for it:

    1) The welfare of a child comes before justice to a man.

    2) The state, having guaranteed basic support for struggling mothers, is recovering its costs in the cheapest way it can (ie it needs to spend nothing in verifying the mother’s claim, and runs no risk of not being able to identify a cost-recovery unit – aka a man).

    Needless to say, both arguments run counter to good government and respect for law.

    Comment by Rob Case — Tue 17th July 2007 @ 10:54 am

  4. In NZ as possible to establish a global unity what does anyone think of teh idea of a common (exclusive) data bank of DNA for parents or children wishing to be tested to match sons and daughters with lost mothers and fathers – and should this include those past (irresposponsible) donors who have donated their ovaries or sperm to create another life.

    I say irresponsible because that is exactly what it is and anyone stupid enough to think that its OK to come into a jar and there ends the matter needs to be brought to an account for teh damage they have caused. If they haven’t caused any damage then those children born of IVF won’t apply to the bank will they??????????????????

    Comment by Benjamin Easton — Tue 17th July 2007 @ 11:34 am

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