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Male Victims Don’t Matter

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 1:14 am Fri 4th April 2008

An interesting article on National Radio’s “Nine to Noon” today about dangers to tourists in Thailand. (The article will be available on internet for a week, but I have a copy if anyone is interested after that.)

Following the murder of a Swedish woman on a beach in Phuket, the Thai Tourism Ministry is giving female tourists whistles to blow in case of an emergency, among other measures. According to Kathryn Ryan of Nine to Noon, “women travellers in particular are being warned to be safety conscious” in Thailand. She went on to interview the honorary Australian consul to Phuket about the problem. He described various assaults and crimes against tourists, more of his specific examples involving male than female victims. However Ms Ryan’s interest (of course) was in sexual assaults against females, asked questions only about sexual assaults, spiking drinks and so forth, and in response to the consul’s description of a case in which a NZ man was subjected to a common form of violent extortion, she immediately replied “Sexual crime though, how widespread is that…”

The article highlighted widespread apathy towards victimization of men compared with women. In most countries men are murdered and seriously assaulted in much greater numbers than are women, yet only violence against women is usually seen as worthy of any concern or comment.

No information was provided in the article about how many men had been murdered, robbed and/or seriously assaulted in Thailand, but I expect that the number will be considerably higher than for women, just as it is in other countries. Yet only women are advised to be safety conscious and are provided with some gesture to assist them in that regard. What, are men expected just to handle it, left to face all dangers, to be strong and brave enough not to hurt much when assaulted or murdered by a gang of thieves and heavies?

National Radio demonstrates blatant sexism by following the same trend, seeking to expose only sexual crimes against women while deliberately ignoring and minimizing the importance of equally or more serious crimes against men. How long will we accept this in our society that has legislated to bring about equality between the genders? How can feminism, a philosophy claiming to seek gender equality, lead people to show such callous disregard for harm suffered by men?


  1. Hans have you sent a comment to Radio NZ?

    Comment by Viv Roberts — Fri 4th April 2008 @ 5:44 pm

  2. Yes, I sent them a copy (almost) of this posting.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Fri 4th April 2008 @ 7:36 pm

  3. Why do feminist agendas deny us fathers access to
    natural justice within our judicial system?

    Comment by dad4justice — Fri 4th April 2008 @ 10:11 pm

  4. Well I saw first hand how the judicial system works on Fri. My husband & I have jointly applied for a Parenting Order to see his children. Mediation conf was set and we were self litigating with a UOF ‘lay’ person to help us. Ex and her female solicitor told the female court registrar I would not be allowed in the court??? Court registrar calls my husband to the court room. He said what about my wife this is a joint application. No only you can come in??(no explanation – nothing) My husband hands her the papers for the lay person and she tells him abruptly I dont want those. The court registrar relunctantly takes them and hands them straight to the ex’s sol and she says NO WAY….So for a person who is self litigationg after we racked up an $800 for 2 solicitors letters we thought we’d go it alone with the help of UOF. My poor husband gets told to get into the court room and sit down. He is left there with his ex and her sol staring at him. Thankfully the judge was male HOWEVER he would not let my husbands lay person come in so my husband asked the ex’s sol to leave if he couldnt have a support person with him in court. Now if my husband and I hadnt done tireless researching on our rights etc we could honestly see how you get bullied in court and I solely believe they hate it when they are dealing with self litigants. The judge told him then it would the shortest mediation he’s ever been to and my husband calmly said if she is to have her sol then he requests his lay person or me in court. As soon as the other party heard our lay person was from UOF I was allowed into court??? So my only hope for us self litigants is that they (the court and the lawyers who are making $$$$$ of us) are threatened by UOF!!!!! First thing the judge said to me was I wasnt allowed to speak (fine that didnt bother me) and secondly he advised that he ‘never’ approves joint applications for a Parenting Order because 1) Im not a parent of the child and 2) Im not a guardian of the child. If Im right though Care of the Children Act states’ that a partner of the parent can apply for a Parenting Order….so does anyone out there know if this is correct (the Act) and if so how can a judge not do a joint order when that is a law????? (or is this when the judicial system becomes a law within itself??))so we finally left court with 50/50 care for one child and the other child had has C4C appointed. We go back in a months time to hopefully finalise this ugly struggle we have had for 4 & 1/2 yrs with one bitter bitter ex.

    Comment by Karen — Fri 4th April 2008 @ 10:39 pm

  5. After the male marriage strike, men should take this further and go and live in countries like Philippines where the women still think highly of families, all these bitches in countries like ours should be left to fester with their feral offspring and the NZ state, that has started all this, can pick up the tab. When MP’s vast fiddled expenses are threatened maybe they will do something about the cruelty and injustice that has been meted out to Dads in NZ.

    Comment by zubbazubba — Sat 5th April 2008 @ 3:49 am

  6. Although you didn’t exactly choose the nicest of words when referring to children,you are so right and so is Whanga.The majority of men want to provide for their children,but when you live in a country like ours,where men and their new partners are basically crucified because of the child support act,you are left with no other choice than to get as far away as you possibly can.
    You only get one life.Don’t throw your next chance of happiness away by becoming a slave to a system that was invented by politicians who are so corrupt.

    Comment by rosie — Sat 5th April 2008 @ 5:46 pm

  7. I note that in a follow-up article this morning Kathryn Ryan spoke only about whistles being handed out to “tourists” in Thailand. Possibly, this was in response to my posting (that I sent a copy of to National Radio). Interesting though that her updated, gender-neutral version merely hid the sexism her previous account inadvertently exposed. Needless to say she made no acknowledgement of that sexism, neither did she question why male tourists should be left out of efforts, however trivial, to increase their protection.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Mon 7th April 2008 @ 11:47 am

  8. Hi guys, i was reading the nz herald blog and i believe there are a lot of male victims out there as much as maori victims, this country has always been racist and probably always will be, there are just as many European including woman in our prisons, winz buildings etc. i think its time this country put to rest all racism and feninism

    Comment by Hadi Akbari — Mon 7th April 2008 @ 11:49 am

  9. Hi guys, sorry, just wanted to say we are all human and that is the way we should all be treated, nobody is perfect

    Comment by Hadi Akbari — Mon 7th April 2008 @ 11:53 am

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