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New statistics on Suicide

Filed under: General — Tigerseye @ 7:53 am Sat 25th October 2008

Hey, Boshier, check this out…


  1. There is no specific mention of men in the suicide article, although men ARE much more likely to commit suicide after a relation breakup than women (obviously – no support, no kids, no money due to CS).

    Governments do not care about a few hundred men killing themselves, all the anti-men family law is about revenue collection to pay for the explosion in the number of single mothers created by their past legislation.

    [Offensive remark removed by moderator at Perseus’ request]

    Comment by Perseus — Sat 25th October 2008 @ 8:01 am

  2. That’s a good point Perseus but I believe the reporter is inviting us to read between the lines.

    Comment by Tigerseye — Sat 25th October 2008 @ 8:17 am

  3. Perseus – even as a joke your suggestion undermines our cause and is outrageous. News of anyone being shot, espcially a woman is a tragedy. All such comments do is damage our cause. I have already had two family court professionals point out the misogynist comments that get posted on this site. Even meant as a joke I find your comment offensive and inappropriate. Please do us a men a favour and ask the webmaster to remove the bit about prefering to hear that a woman is shot.

    Comment by Gerry — Sat 25th October 2008 @ 11:48 am

  4. Notice how it is completely ignored that this is overwhelmingly a male problem. “Men don’t matter” is just so common in our psyche that
    their suffering fails to arouse sympathy. Imagine how the article would read if the gender balance were the other way around, if 3 to 5
    times as many women committed suicide than men. That fact would be emphasized repeatedly and Wimmin’s Refuge would be asked to comment on
    how men and/or anti-female social conditions were responsible. The gender imbalance for suicide is greater than that for domestic violence,
    yet we continually see articles describing domestic violence as if women are the only victims while for suicide men don’t even get a mention.
    Teenagers are given special consideration although they constitute a small minority, but let’s just quietly ignore the fact that it is mainly men who feel so worthless in a misandrist society that they would rather be dead. Very telling stuff.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Sat 25th October 2008 @ 5:17 pm

  5. I wrote a book in part to help explain my own self-alienation and also the tragic suicide of my cousin. My book “The Shaman in the Disco, Men, Isolation and Intimacy,” is about how men get alienated from themselves in our culture and take that alienation to women in unhealthy ways. It’s about how men get isolated especially when there is a critical or absent father. It’s also about finding our way back inside to our inner resources. Check it out on Amazon and/or Google, you can search in the book. This book was my own seven year journey to become self-aware and to be connected to be myself and others in a deeper way.

    Comment by James — Sun 26th October 2008 @ 1:09 pm

  6. News of anyone being shot, espcially a woman is a tragedy.

    Curious remark. I don’t find the end of a woman’s life “especially” more tragic than the end of a man’s. Might have done once when I still suffered from the chivalry curse, but modern feminism has cured me of that.

    Comment by Rob Case — Tue 28th October 2008 @ 5:23 pm

  7. About 500 men a year committing suicide and about 500 a week leaving the country.

    That says volumes about NZ society and governance.

    Comment by Dave — Fri 14th November 2008 @ 7:53 pm

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