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What is the Men’s Movement?

Filed under: General — Julie @ 9:43 pm Sun 27th January 2008

This was answered over a question posted on a “yahoo answers” where you can ask any question you like to the wide world Internet.

This was the question:
Do these groups represent Men Rights Activists, or are they just radicals? Who does speak for MRA’s? And a number of links were put forward. Links from fathers and males of many ages including young teens who are spreading the caution to their brothers as to what the world is like for males. And spreading the solutions to help one another.

All the answers given from males are worthwhile reading and one in particular was picked up from one of my favourite Counter feminist sites.

“Fidelbogen is right on the money. People who refer to themselves as MRAs cover every facet of society, and can be anyone anywhere. The term MRA is just a label that you can stick on or take off, yourself or others, as you wish. You can devote whatever time and energy you want to trying to find out who and where they are; but here is a tip – don’t bother. You won’t succeed and there is nothing you can do about them even if you did. I have been tracking the MM for years and can tell you that MRAs are just a part of it; like clusters of passengers on a train that is slowly gathering speed. They can hop off or on at will, but the train just keeps on moving forward with or without them. MRAs can give impetus to the movement, and often do; but they are not the whole of the MM or anything like it. I don’t know how many people are out there who would call themselves MRAs; except from the evidence I see and the growing Internet traffic, I am certain there are more and more every year. But you would be far better engaged on looking at the bigger picture, asking why the MM exists in the first place, and why it is growing.

Hmmm, so why does the Men’s movement exist in the first place? You will have to read the rest to find the answer.

counterfem.blogspot.com

There are also many other sites you can visit from the links to the right.

Something else of interest is Mancast, the podcast of the Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) Blogging Network.

9 Responses to “What is the Men’s Movement?”

  1. Alastair says:

    The Mens movement is alive, well and seeing progress. All “Mens Sites” accept ladies. They suffer like us under some circumstances. Chief of these is This page, “Union of Fathers”, and reasonably secure, pauls-news@yahoogroups.com (You have to join and confirm an ISP email address. Only the Moderators see this. Anonimity is available for posts. Ladies welcome. Focususes on seperation, and Family court issues. Finally, cyfstalk.org As it’s name suggests the focus is mainly on CYF issues. It is totally secure and hosted off shore. You will have to join.

    The Family court is bending. Numbers protesting keeppresure on.

    Additionally there are databases of Violent Females, and just started Lawyers, Judges, etc. etc. Details will be available shortly

  2. Allan Harvey says:

    Part of the problem is that the “Mens Movement”, or the Mens Rights Acrtivists as a sub-set, is a term for a loose grouping of organisations with different aims. Personally I’m interested in Fathers issues and parenting matters only. Others are into Health stuff, and wider equity issues.
    I find for myself that this broader approach takes my energy from what I see as my core work. Many see such narrow thinking as unhelpful but I see it as a way to stay sane and concentrate on what I know about.

  3. cb says:

    sounds like constipation to me…

  4. julie says:

    Hey cb, That’s an unusual comment to make. But I am curious: What does constipation sound like? lol

    To Allan,

    I find for myself that this broader approach takes my energy from what I see as my core work. Many see such narrow thinking as unhelpful but I see it as a way to stay sane and concentrate on what I know about.

    I don’t think narrow thinking is unhelpful. To me you are better at doing one thing and doing it well. I have a lot of respect for those who are out there making changes happen. For those who action.

    To Alistair,

    Additionally there are databases of Violent Females, and just started Lawyers, Judges, etc. etc. Details will be available shortly

    You are doing a lot. You must have a lot of interesting information.

    I need to find out how many single fathers we have in NZ for a documentary.But I have no idea how to find something like that out.

  5. Morris says:

    I will relucantly volunteer to appear on a TV docummentary Julie.

    I am not what I term as High Income Earner…$90,000 maybe.

    I am seperated…have one lovable son aged 10 who wants to spend more time with me, and likewise. I work shiftwork, so I currently average 13 days a month with my son, but now have the time to make a 50/50 situation.

    By private arrangement I currently pay my ex $100 a month. Not Much.

    I have now informed her I will pay all my sons costs….school fees, uniforms, clothing etc…so that she has only to pay for his food while he is in her care.

    She refused. She has a new car and has asked to me to take annual leave while she goes on a holiday in July.

    I have said many times before, Child Support is for the care of Children, but the greedy adults take advantage of the outdated ACT to neglect the children and use the system for finanicial self gain.

    Is it any wonder we have so much crime when there is no policing system for the rights of children?

    And yes, i have sympathy for the men who have little choice but to leave this country when faced with high taxation and unfair child support laws.

    I just believe in fairness.

  6. julie says:

    Morris,

    This is brave of you. I hope you don’t mind if I keep this offer for another time. I need young fathers for this one because of the targeted audience. I was hoping Fathers for Children’s Trust could help out because they work with teen dads.

    It is not actually a doco but a show. “Pacific Beat Street”

  7. rosie says:

    Morris
    Maybe we should do our own doco
    “The years of hell under Helen”

  8. John Brett says:

    What about a “Pink Flood” Documentary-
    Rank and File of enslaved men chanting:
    “Judges! Leave those kids alone”
    Golly- perhaps I should work on the rest of the lyrics!
    BTW
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    Pink Upholstered Vagina Couch
    http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/540076210.html
    I think it would create the appropriate ambience for a sexist organisation!

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