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Women have a law unto their own which the Family Court supports!

Filed under: General — sonnyking @ 11:18 pm Mon 21st April 2008

Judge Boshier stated in his presentation in Washington DC at the Capitol Hilton on June 1 2007:

…. It is a criminal offence to take a child from New Zealand knowing that there is an order giving day-to-day care or contact to another person, or knowing proceedings are pending or about to be commenced in respect of the child. There is a maximum fine of $2500 or a term of imprisonment of up to three months.[18] It is also a criminal offence to breach a parenting order.[19] Because these offences carry the possibility of imprisonment, Police can arrest any person committing such as offence without a warrant.[20] A person can thus be physically stopped from boarding a plane, for example, where there is no order preventing removal but leaving the country would breach a parenting order.

It is no defence that the person removing the child has rights of day-to-day care or contact, for parental responsibility is to be jointly exercised, and one parent cannot deprive the other parent their parental rights and responsibilities. This section applies to any person who takes a child. It is not specific to parents.

Apparently this only applies to men, fathers. Women can take their child out of the country, even if they state it is for a holiday, while court proceedings are pending, while their absence stops the person, i.e. the father, having contact with the child. Women are allowed to breach a parenting order. So what is the point of a parenting order in the first place and why aren’t the courts following what the Family Court Judge is stating. Are women above the Family Court?

The Family Court is closed to protect the parties i.e. the children’s names, locations, circumstances etc. and yes I totally agree with that. BUT the Family Court are hiding behind the cloak of protection for the child, the Family Court are using the cloak to cover up the injustices that occur everyday.

There needs to be a system in place that the Family Court answers to, one that prevents injustice because exposure would NOT BE that of the children, BUT that of the corrupt lawyers, council for child and judge. Imagine if the proceedings were scrutinized by an independent source, one with no connection to the Family Court, there sole purpose, to monitor the proceedings and prevent injustices. The District and High Court have in the past, had to answer for their actions, politicians and corporate business men and women, have had to answer for their actions.

WHAT makes the Family Court different, it is far from superior, if it was, cases would not be dragged through the wringer for 5, 7 + years. Parents would be parents, equally. Not mother have all, even though you beat your child, use your child as a pawn for your own distorted pleasures. Father, sorry mate, you’re a male, you don’t count, you have no feelings, you are violent etc. etc. etc.

I am a women and mother, standing by partner and step-daughter for a little boy who has been emotionally and physically abused and now sadly doesn’t really understand any different.


  1. i am also in a position whereby my step children are about to be removed by their mother overseas we have just found this out contained in a report made by my step children stating they do not want to have contact any longer because daddy drinks too much oh and by the way “we are really excited about travelling overseas with mummy”my stepson has already learned a new dance??after asking our lawyer to forward us the appropriate paper work to sign she says”oh umm well yea if you feel she will run off with them” uhh hullo are you reading the same report as me?? my step children are so brain-washed by their mother its unbearable,i am a mother i do not mess about with my childrens heads i allow my children to have accsess to their dad on a regular basis although he lives far north i have no worries about their well being and safety we keep our relasionship purely based on what is best for our children i would never allow fc to come into our lives ive been through it and it sucks complete bias.

    Comment by mother love — Mon 21st April 2008 @ 11:54 pm

  2. And did the lawyer for child help the mother with the evidence for all this too ? He/She is nice to you, why do they bother interviewing the father at all, they are only looking for dirt against the father. It all stinks, i am very sorry for what has happened to you, WHY ISN’T ANYBODY HELPING US ???????????????
    Murderers get 5 years if they behave (with parole) and there is no future payments or child support involved , makes you think ……….

    Comment by zubbazubba — Tue 22nd April 2008 @ 5:39 am

  3. Judge Boshier is telling the public -what they want to hear- just platitudes, not truths of the real world.
    Anyone who reads the familycaught website, in particular the Skelton judgements can see that Boshier isn’t telling the whole truth and that his words are possibly more misleading than truthful.
    Is he degenerating to be just a pathological liar?
    This is quite worrying to me, as I believe that he is the best familycaught judge, since Inglis and Trapski retired.

    By Boshier saying these nice warm protective things, Joe and Josephine Public can relax, watch Big Love on the TV and sleep easy. They know the familycaught is on the job!
    If Judge Boshier can ignore the child abusing example of international-abductor Kay Skelton, who still hasn’t been prosecuted for her antics, then so too can any apathetic New Zealander.
    My parents cat didn’t notice when the first kitten was given away. When the second one disappeared, she meowed around a few times. When the third kitten disappeared, she looked around a bit. When the last kitten vanished, she meowed around for days.
    This is like NZers, they don’t worry about familycaught skills, integrity, honesty to the public, until they are bitten hard enough close to home.
    Then they are so stunned, that the other sleepers can ignore what they say, because now they are just crackpots!
    Protecting children from international abduction does have difficulties. A NZ child, furnished with a genuine foreign passport, can be wisked through emigration and out of NZ at 900km/hour. The only method that our children can be protected against such a “legal” abduction, is microchipping. Do you insert the microchip into such a location, that attempting to remove it would destroy the child?
    Keep your eye on the ball.
    Remember, its your money they’re after.
    Take care, especially for your children, MurrayBacon.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Tue 22nd April 2008 @ 10:02 pm

  4. Judge Boshier is not what he makes out, we have emailed him over the past two years and no reply, have been advised to write, still no reply,,,he has supported the mocther of child as his cronies has in alinating the father from his children and step back and claim to help,,,,he is aware of the situation, the 13 year old child wrote to him,,,,begged for help to see his dad,,still no reply except a statement to say the child was out of place,,

    Comment by Robyn — Tue 22nd April 2008 @ 11:11 pm

  5. Yes Robyn we were told that the child was out of place too, when my step daughter so exasperated, wrote to the Judge to spell it out in her words what her birth mother was like. This is when the C4C, My House My Castle, was pushing my step daughter to revisit her mum, even though the 29A Psych, now S133 reports stated that the child was terrified of her mother.

    Yes Murray, the naivety of the public is …. The Family Court represents both parents and until you are ‘living it’ you don’t know how corrupt the FC really is hiding behind that cloak and totally biased, siding with the mother. Boshier statements, as we have found, give false security, they are there only to show the public the front they wish to portray. Thank-you Murray

    Yes zubbazubba, I’ve found that C4C is always helpful towards the mother. Thank-you for understanding. The new C4C we are trying to stay on their side, hard though when they comment “Oh well, xxxxxx doesn’t really want that, so we won’t do it” And when the father says, I thought this was for xxxxx(child), not xxxxx(mother), C4C ‘moves on’

    Yes mother love, my ex and I are gobsamcked at the, as he puts it ‘Mickey Mouse Court’ and have remained true friends, even though our marriage died many years ago, because the most important thing is our kids, and we seriously don’t have a problem with each other or the kids having time with each of us.

    On the other hand my partners ex has even stated in the FC, and it is in the files from the hearings, that she will never have anything to do with the father (my partner) and never work with him for the sake of the children and commented that for the father not to be around would solve the problems.

    Comment by sonnyking — Wed 23rd April 2008 @ 11:33 am

  6. Sonnyking

    We went to see C4C yesterday. She heard our concerns etc however said she didnt feel a 14 yr old would cope with a psycologist report done on her but she would as an 11 yr old??? Where is the logic there?? basically we were told court will go with what the 14 yr wishes e.g not to see her dad (like she use to) this is because bitter ex has been in the poor kids ear for 4 yrs and laid the guilt on her if she does wish to see her dad…so its pretty sickening to sit there when the C4C tells us yes it sounds like the ex has been in the childs ear for the last how many years but thats tough!!!! Where is the common sense in all of this??? Why isnt the ex wife getting a ticking off for her parental alienation and told well youve had the kids for the last 4 years and abused them mentally by destroying their relationship with their dad – so hard luck I award the kids to the dad who is more than willing to give them a loving home and will encourage them to see their mum 2 days a ftn???? Surelt the family court can see all these dad’s fighting to see their kids arnt losers otherwise why would they be there??? My husband made a comment to C4C I should have given up the fight 2 yrs ago and she said no way I take my hat off to you blah blah blah and then goes but hard luck if your daughter doesnt want to see you???? He even said to the C4C he would dearly luv fulltime custody however didnt feel that would be FAIR to their mother….if thats not a reasonable parent then what is!!!

    Comment by Karen — Wed 23rd April 2008 @ 12:30 pm

  7. father refused to own daughters funeral on news tonight, what a wonderful world we live in…, you heard of BLACK POWER, don’t forget MOTHER POWER…

    Comment by cb — Wed 23rd April 2008 @ 7:31 pm

  8. hi guys, doesnt it make you sick, it is bad enough the Dad cant say goodbye to his little girl, but what the hell could this poor innocent child have done to not have her Dad say goodbye but have the scum police present, rest in peace sweet and always remember your Dad loves you

    Comment by Hadi Akbari — Wed 23rd April 2008 @ 8:00 pm

  9. Mum leaves Dad and takes the children with her.
    They display about as much emotions as my cats do.
    “Don’t bother about him” mum said “He was just the one who always paid the bills.
    Give him a call when it’s coming up to your next birthday or Christmas”

    Comment by rosie — Thu 24th April 2008 @ 10:58 pm

  10. I would like to ask the ex-wife what SHE would think if I

    1. Made false accusations of HER physical violence (which SHE did frequently anyway)
    2. Stopped HER seeing the children for 3 months
    3. Took away HER house, car, furniture, if SHE had paid for it all
    4. Was obstructive to HER few hours a week “contact” with my kids

    YES SHE WOULD BE MURDEROUS !!!!!!!!!!! But the NZ cops wouldn’t do anything , of course, and the law would still be on her side, i bet the lawyer for child would not be on MY side , he would look for Parental Alienation then !

    Comment by Martin Swash — Fri 25th April 2008 @ 6:32 am

  11. The Family Court does not support Womens Refuge: It is a mere subcontractor to Womens Refuge. The funding of WR is thus unknown as it uses the resources of the Family Court. Judges not in line with Womens Refuge have rumours spread around them as bad judjes. Social agencies not in line will have their services not required.

    For all men (and women?) under protection orders do not use a lawyer. You will loose 100 % and the lawyers know this. Represent yourself. At least you will save some money.

    Comment by alma — Fri 25th April 2008 @ 5:28 pm

  12. That has been my conclusion too, the lawyers just want to take you through a losing process and get paid handsomely for it. If any fathers have just started this process, don’t waste your money on these snakes.

    Comment by Martin Swash — Fri 25th April 2008 @ 8:10 pm

  13. Hi I have just been charged with MAF and i am trying to find out what the penalities are for such a charge can any one help me please

    Comment by paul — Fri 25th April 2008 @ 9:15 pm

  14. hi Paul, what is maf?

    Comment by Hadi Akbari — Fri 25th April 2008 @ 10:10 pm

  15. I worked that out : Male Assaults Female

    Comment by Martin Swash — Sat 26th April 2008 @ 2:45 am

  16. looks like you have been charged with ‘Ministry of Agriculture and Fishiries’ They will probably quarantine you first from your children subject to a temporary court order, if they have found any diseases or banned substances on you, then you may have to be destroyed, all the best mate, you have our support.

    Comment by cb — Sat 26th April 2008 @ 12:01 pm

  17. Paul; Male assaults female charge is max of five years prison.
    Why is there not a female assaults male charge in the Crimes
    Act? Welcome to Absolute Powerland.

    Comment by dad4justice — Sun 27th April 2008 @ 9:14 pm

  18. Hi Paul, thats true i have never heard of FAM, i dont believe you will get too long in prison if at all, depends on how bad your criminal record is, i dont know whats worse, fine, prison or community work, stay away from Henderson community work, they are assholes especially Karl

    Comment by Hadi Akbari — Mon 28th April 2008 @ 9:45 am

  19. I recommend you all read Greg Hallets’s book.The Family Court and other experiments.
    It is fairly mild compared to the experiences my children and I have had to suffer from these scum but it has many good statistics.Greg put a lot of work into it.It is about 4 years old now but still relevant.The guy Boshier is actually just the same as all the rest.They are an industry searching to keep their workload so they can get paid.He appears a little bit better to some because he is something of a politician.I have received treatment and bias from 2 particularly bad judges named von Dadelson(in Hawkes Bay) and Clarkson(in Auckland)that would make your toes curl.The woman Clarkson was off the scale.Complete unadulterated one plus one equals 3 decisions.The family caught is a joke and I urge all parents to boycott it.Have unconditional love for each other and resolve your differences by mediation.

    Comment by whanga — Mon 28th April 2008 @ 1:41 pm

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