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Gender Disparities in Democracy Are Fatal

Filed under: General,Men's Health — artpos @ 2:39 pm Sun 22nd February 2009

FEMALE RUDDERS:Gender disparities within Democracy are larger than commonly understood.
(Beware reading this essay, it could destroy your faith in politics.)

Boyish prows on the ship of state
“Biology is not destiny” Simone de Beauvoir

Despite appearances to the contrary our liberal democracies of today have considerable female leadership in the foreground and in the background, a majority influence. Sailing ships often had female names on the bow and stern and frequently sported a mermaid sprite or womanly clasping bust as effigies under the bowsprit, yet almost  all profits on the voyage, control of the cargo and manning operations went to men. Today, do our ships of state exhibit a similar tendency in reverse; men are now carving out political careers beneath the overarching wand of women. Women voters have the overwhelming numerical influence within advanced democracies and this has distinct downside effects for the estate of men. Excess female influence can distort notions of democracy from being a fair system of government. Some alternatives by way of correction are sketched as future possibilities. This essay is shows how men must not and cannot support a current biased feminist liberal democracy for it is not a fair system of Government. Democracy today is unfair to men.


One generation out from 1972 – (bra-burning and the Pill) – discrimination against men is extremely marked. Men in New Zealand are significantly locked out of nursing and primary teaching for example. Men were once 46% of our primary teachers, today barely 6%. In child custody battles men do not receive a fair 50-50 outcome (more like 90/10). There are probably many other situations also badly discriminatory to men. It is an area barely beginning to be catalogued. Men may be guilty of rape but there is no legal equivalent for women, such as nymphomania/’manhandling’/prostitution, for instance. I was myself abused by a woman when young: its cure is almost invisible, simply not discussed in the literature. Or, nowhere to the extent it is for girls. Passed over in silence. I suspect if we went looking we would find almost exactly the same level of criminality. Nowhere does feminism make this explicit, such as saying ‘men are bad, women are good’, but, seemingly they would like to strongly imply it. For, if they do so the absurdity is immediately apparent. Women abusing boys are rarely jailed. Nor, in researching such matters is anyone even ‘looking’ for women abusing boys (or, heaven forbid; lesbians abusing little girls) Living shorter lives than women; men do the dying in our society. Seven times the money is spent on women’s health, than on men’s greater health needs. If ‘biology is not destiny’ then all efforts should be to bring men’s health, longevity and numbers up to those of women.  Thus seven times as much money ought rightly be spent on men’s health. There are many other areas of excessive discrimination against men, too many to cover here. Masculist thinking on these things has only just begun. It is more like the feminist estate in 1860 or 1890’s to which it could fairly be compared. These thoughts have only just begun. Men, I think, will not sit around in consciousness-raising groups: they will act, once aroused. Men of New Zealand wake up! We have nothing to lose but our strangling apron strings.


Equal pay for equal work is fair in a literal anecdotal sense, becoming unfair only when raised into an ideology, if it means artificially created government jobs. These jobs could number 100,000 or more. Jobs reserved for women, that are indoors, in cities and extremely highly paid. These job holders really ‘do work’, meaning 8 hours a day being busy, piles of paper, reports, and so on. However if opened to market pressures no one might be found to bankroll this out of their own money. Public service managers, many of whom are women, yet depending on the private sector paying taxes, began in New Zealand for instance to be paid much more than male managers outside. The tail was wagging the dog, just to -‘raise the bar’ for women in the public service.
The reason why men, as a group, may always be deserving of more money is that it is mostly men who do the really dangerous, loud, dirty, remote, high-up, stressful, low-down and inconvenient jobs, all of this despite thirty six years of progressive feminism. The person who risks life and limbs for others deserves more recompense than someone in cosier conditions doing the same thing. Paying the cosy, more than, or, ‘the same’, on ideological principle, than the life-risking outside worker is unfair discrimination. This shows bias against men in our society as a result of an inbuilt gender bias within democracy.

We cannot recommend democracy to other nations if it is in any way ‘a female form of government’—, if it has bias: it must be non-discriminatory and gender neutral in all its outcomes. All the social, cultural, political and legal fields under it must have gender neutral outcomes. It is particularly dangerous a system of governance if it is biased in any way. It is biased, as women live to vote up to nearly two elections more than men. In our advanced western-style democracies there are more women also. This combination of women’s larger numbers and greater longevity means around a 10% to 12 percent advantage of influence at election time. As Victoria University Professor John Roberts reminds us each close election on New Zealand television, our political parties are so fine tuned to each other that, in a contested election, just a 4% swing can often upset a government. Women’s vote strength is powerful indeed, having three times as much influence, where it counts, than men. people commonly believe they ‘know that it is 49% to 51% ‘ but that is proportion overall: we are concerned here with political power and influence only in the voting cohorts above the voting age of 20. Women as a whole get to vote two elections more than men PLUS in slightly greater numbers… giving overall in voting strength more like 45% to 55% advantage in western societies to women. Democracy is womens government!

There are significant concerns therefore also around express women’s control over the political process. Particularly where a woman’s political control is total, in the area of creating people. Democracy is government by the people so who controls the creation of people controls the system. As the 55% advantage of women voters control 100% the creation of future voters. With thoughts like the above, democracy as a fair system is nigh unrecoverable. In the interim men cannot support it. The responsibility of eco-feminism and the collapse of demand is essential to understanding how these factors have caused this so called ‘credit- crisis’. Ask yourself the question, why was so much bad credit risk extended to people? Was it because they had run out of people? New Zealand would have had a population of 6-8 million by now if we had continued with the birthrates of 1970-71: one generation later eco-feminism has destroyed us. (We really did want those unwanted babies after all) as they are/were and always, will be our collective future.


Democracy however has the longest history providing better social, legal and political outcomes. In contains within it sufficient freedom and methods for accountability; chiefly the courts, elections and a free press. Recently some very heavy censorship laws along politically correct lines have been promulgated. This is fatal to venting contrary pressures within democracy and would constitute attacks on male-rights and freedoms to do so. These things must be allowed to be expressed. Feminism has brought many real benefits to women. In democracy one has the right to object, protest and to put forward alternative views like the above. Academic life and the freedom of the mind flourish where all outlooks and viewpoints are explored; even sometimes extreme and paradigm breaking opinions. In the germ of these things lies our best political hope. We can freely explore all options for the future when we are free in democracy to speak, write, read and see unpopular or unfashionable ideas.


Alternatives to democracy range from monarchy to dictatorship. New options could include electronic voting where the entire electorate votes on all issues, just as surveys appears to do (binding surveys anyone?) Another option could be to have a parliament where there are no parties, every member stands independently. A true citizens parliament.  Another method could be to give proxy votes to a dead brothers living brother: gauged in such a way backwards in time (18 months back: – two elections back) as to ‘fix’ the ten percent gender disparity. Yes, that’s right, some men get two votes! I can see no ther fair way to make democracy workable and fair. The method this writer prefers however I call a taxocracy where the time honoured revolutionary phrase ‘no taxation without representation’ is inverted to read NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION. Thus democracy is ended in favour of a new system, why not fix everything at once? So that only tax MAKERS can vote: Tax Takers do not vote. This corrects a world that neither Michael Joseph Savage or Karl Marx ever imagined: A world where approximately half the people are working to pay the other half on the gravy train. This is the state New Zealand is in now.Our Prime Minister appears totally unaware of it. Refer him to this article. Print or post a copy to your friends. Overseas as well.

This is to account for mishandling of economies by EMOTIONAL womens concerns (excessive expenditure on womens ‘health’) as distorted within large gender disparity of VOTING cohorts: up to 12% advantage (depending on the Country) Such disparities, even if suppressed are fatal to a proper account of post-modern democracy. They would otherwise emerge more dramatically elswhere. This dangerous anomaly within democracy must stop.

Whatever method is chosen we must break out of the loop where women control the creation of people, people control the government and where women secretly and numerically control the electorate vote and thus all the governments. Remember this insight is new in masculist thinking, any errors must be compared only with similar raw material from the feminists of around circa 1860 or 1890’s, we men have a long way to go to throw off the evil shackes of a false female or feminist consciousness. A democracy so constituted is unfair.  This introduces distortions to budgets and economies that ruin productivity and competitiveness in advanced economies. Our ‘productivity’ figures must be entirely fictional is one direct deduction from these tenets of masculist population economics. No wonder historians say no democracy has lasted much more than two hundred years. Our time is up. This Soviet Union type collapse can be laid directly at the door of eco-feminism.

Phillip O’Sullivan 2008 [email protected]


  1. I find this gender warrior stuff tiresome.
    This “battle of the sexes” stuff is an unfortunate legacy of feminism whose tenet is that men and women are basically enemies.
    In recent years we suffer the WAW effect “Women are Wonderful” which is equally stupid.
    The counter argument seems to be that we should regard men as victioms. I detest the whole idea of competing to be victims.
    Lets get on with the task of being human, and supporting each other. The reality is that more often than not men and women have been partners supporting each other rather than exploiting and manipulating each other. Why waste energy on what has been and look towards what will work for ourselves and our children (of both sexes) in the future.

    Comment by allan Harvey — Sun 22nd February 2009 @ 2:52 pm

  2. The point is ‘feminism’ does NOT support us, it is everyones liberal enemy: it MUST be destroyed! It wrecks the economy, it wrecks democracy, it wrecks human life – how can one ‘get – along’ with it. It is an evil doctrine, dogma and philosophy. It destroys women! Show me one advantage for good men. None.
    You obviously have not read it. This is entirely new. No one has ever before put these arguments.
    Nothing here about professional ‘victimhood- I despise it’ to me one more precious little liberal idol just died, totally: Democracy is dead, I no longer struggle to believe in it. It is finished. We must have other solutions or western economies and civilization is history: we are seeing a Soviet Union type collapse of America, New Zealand etc just because of the reasons outlined above. It will take the luxury of feminism-capitalism AND socialism away into the dustbin of history. Possibly America’s dollar will collapse (very likely) and indeptetness enslave us to Chinese terms of payment. Our only hope of success is a ProNatalist Taxocracy. DEMOCRACY itself is badly configured TODAY, now, post-modern age, 21st century stuff! The old date references are comparing the state of our UNDERSTANDING now being raw, new, fresh, young, untried, untested – please read again and test these ideas in your mind as per circa 2009.

    Comment by artpos — Sun 22nd February 2009 @ 3:07 pm

  3. We have long known that democracy is the tyranny of the majority (and powerful) over minorities.
    I don’t see that as a new argument. Democracy may not be great but I prefer that to dictatorship of whatever flavour or benign imposition of government any day. ProNatalist Taxocracy doesn’t inspire me at all. Personally I think feminism is a spent force and if we ignored it more then its ultimate death would come sooner.

    Comment by allan Harvey — Sun 22nd February 2009 @ 3:51 pm

  4. Allan,
    Your rhetoric is all well and good in theory.
    However I’m afraid it overlooks the fact as laid out by O’Sullivan that western politicians will always pander to the majority….meaning women.

    I’ve known for many years that in today’s ‘democracy’ women are vastly the privileged sex when it comes to health-care in NZ.
    That’s something that won’t change too. Women’s sense of entitlement is too strong for them to benevolently vote for men to get an equal share of the healthcare pie (never mind that it would mean vastly less men being drug addicts, mental health patients, cardiac cases and prison inmates – something plenty of their tax dollars get spent on).

    So the best thing a man can do in such circumstances is to radically alter the odds by going on a strict personal health regimen.
    When I say strict I mean STRICT.
    I did this for 15 years.
    During that time I was vegetarian.
    I ran for 80 minutes each week.
    I quit smoking and drinking alcohol, coffee, soda drinks.
    I cut back drastically on lollies, cakes and any sugary and fatty foods.
    Each week I hit the gym and cycled instead of motored places.
    I took up regular meditation and occasional fasting.
    I went on regular bush walks.
    I spent money on educating myself.
    I took up gardening and landscaping.
    I moved to a more peaceful location.
    I stopped chasing women and saved my cash.

    Although I’m not so strict on myself these days people still regularly say I look 10 years younger than my actual chronological age.

    I encourage men in similar circumstances to do likewise.
    Believe me you’ll feel awesome with a significant increase in your physical and brain power!

    I disagree that feminism is a spent force for the reason that I know many people who hold onto feminist views.
    Notice I didn’t say they call themselves feminists only that they hold feminist views.
    Many are in positions of power and influence – go visit a family court, university, media company. They’re actively making attempts to recruit to.
    Don’t believe me? Then just ask others to chime in with their observations about this here too.

    Comment by Skeptik — Sun 22nd February 2009 @ 5:36 pm

  5. Skeptic,
    I do agree with you though few are using the label feminist these days it has left its mark in thinking, legislation, attitudes and mentality (especially of PC males).
    On the health front while I aplaud your zeal and wisdom the fact of Health expenditure is that it is bloody difficult to get guys into the door of their GP’s surgery doorway. When a bloke goes to the Dr they are crook. The idea of preventive healthcare is a froeign concept to most of us. I say this in my role as a Practice manager of a GP clinic. The world of General Practice is thus a woman’s world with over two thirds of GP’s under 40 being female and other staff in GP clinics being 90% female.
    Even at a Student Health Centre where the population base is often close to 50% male students visiting the Health Centre will be 80% female. Gardasil, Contraception, Cervical Smears, Counselling the numbers go 100%, 95%, 100%, 70% female patients. Diseases that afflict both sexes such as Glandular Fevor will still see 60-65% women to 35-40% male patients rocking up the the clinic.
    Last October was supposed to be a Mens Health month with promotions for men visiting their GP’s and we got 2 blokes in the door from the extra publicity.

    Comment by allan Harvey — Sun 22nd February 2009 @ 6:06 pm

  6. Following the kind of STRICT personal health regimen I went on for 15 years means very rarely or not at all having to visit a health clinic.
    I look forward to living as long or longer than my female cohort.

    Comment by Skeptik — Sun 22nd February 2009 @ 6:48 pm

  7. Interesting rave.

    Men were once 46% of our primary teachers, today barely 6%.

    I have been told it was 10% back in the 70’s. Where did you get this information from? I could use it.


    I’ve known for many years that in today’s ‘democracy’ women are vastly the privileged sex when it comes to health-care in NZ.

    That’s something that won’t change too. Women’s sense of entitlement is too strong for them to benevolently vote for men to get an equal share of the healthcare pie (never mind that it would mean vastly less men being drug addicts, mental health patients, cardiac cases and prison inmates – something plenty of their tax dollars get spent on).

    Sadly the facts are that the women in the community are taking care of men’s health issues. They have found that men are not going to the doctor often and that offering them free days and the like is also not working.

    The new move is to go through the women in the men’s lives. Hoping that the women will nag the men to go.

    Another thing to note is that the NZ Prostate Cancer group says most of the enquiries come from women and that women are the ones lobbying.

    BTW, good on you for looking after yourself.

    Comment by julie — Mon 23rd February 2009 @ 12:01 pm

  8. Julie,
    I can think of many women in NZ who would nag their menfolk to go to the doctor’s clinic for a check up – so those men stay healthy – AND continue in harness as the selfless workhorses they’ve become.

    Comment by Skeptik — Mon 23rd February 2009 @ 10:12 pm

  9. In October last year the Cancer Society promoted a Mens Health Challenge. They got 1600 replies which were collatted by their staff (a female Nurse). The results are below.
    Summary of data from Scorecard returns
    November 2008

    As of November 3rd we have received a total of 1152 (1696) scorecards that are complete. A small number of cards have not been entered due to incomplete or invalid information.
    The following is an outline of the data- The percentages have been rounded up for ease of reading.
    49% of returns are form men over the age of 50years
    11% have stated they are current smokers
    29% state they are overweight
    44% state they do less than 30mins of exercise per day
    11% state they have more than 3 alcoholic drinks per day (21/week)
    14% have high blood pressure 13% don’t know
    54% have moles/dark freckles on their skin
    34% spend long periods of time in the sun
    17% state they get depressed with a further 9% who don’t know
    40% have a personal/family history of cancer 5% don’t know
    24% have a personal/family history of diabetes 4% don’t know
    34% have a personal/family history of heart disease 7% don’t know
    18% have personal/family history of stroke 7% don’t know
    31% of all cards have been signed by a health professional with 12% stating it has been more than 2 years since they saw a health professional
    Ethnic groups are reasonably representative of population, with a higher than expected return from non European men, (some men did not indicate ethnic group, some gave two groups)
    European 79%
    Maori 10%
    Pacific Island 2%
    Asian/Indian 5%
    Geographically we have had returns from Whangarei to Bluff with a fantastic response from the South Island! All regions now have a reasonable coverage with some more enthusiastic than others!

    Comment by allan Harvey — Tue 24th February 2009 @ 8:26 am

  10. In our universities Marxism and feminism are still very alive and well. Universities held onto romantic notions of Medieval Studies Departments for decades/ Centuries beyond any real relevance or interest, this must not be alloweed to happen. I demand this evil philosophy cease from public support right now. Feminism is killing men! It is evil. A statistical genocide of over four million absent New Zealanders can be firmly laid at its door. We must put such olicy makers on trial. They are responsible for all this economic meltdown. This meltdown has taken thirty years to develop. Twenty years ago I became interested and saw the bulk argument as something people would listen to. I wrote up to 50 handwritten letters a week for years to the newspapers, many were published. I varied each one. They were handwritten so that they would be unique – not photocopied – so editors would publish them. I was successfull in that but socialist engineering continued. We predicted a massive population depredation causing an economic crisis. The Soviet Union is one example of that, Korea and Japan Another. Also Argentina and other places. China and India we saw along with Brazil as having the best future: we were right.

    Comment by Phillip — Tue 24th February 2009 @ 9:46 am

  11. The stats are the most famous in New Zealand. Cabinet Minister John Tamahere lost his job quoting them and blowing the feminist whistle on the Clarke government.

    Comment by Phillip — Tue 24th February 2009 @ 9:49 am

  12. WHATEVER the mechanism tackling mens health is our TOP public health issue: a seven to one ratio in expenditure must become one to one in a democracy. It is Governments responsibility- or face a public retrospective tribunal- sometime in the future. I think sacking the top ten policy makers/ public health officials responsible for this criminal bias should be done. So that they never enter public service again.EVER.

    Comment by Phillip — Tue 24th February 2009 @ 9:54 am

  13. Yes,and other behaviours too. The point is the ‘regime change’ the whole order of things. A male order must be restored as the female one is a disaster for ALL. 170,000 unemplyed just for starters. I fear worse, much, much worse is to come. We have kind of volunteered, unknowingly – via statistical genocide’ for the post modern equivalent of the black death which ushered in the dark ages. They too, at first, ‘fealt wealthy’ – after all they just inherited Uncle Horaces farm did’t they – and he was healthily working at maintaining it only up into last year, then he died of the plague – so we inherit a going concern. Violla! Prosperity is ours! (Sound familiar so far)…BUT… later having to maintain two situations with half the number of people both fell into ruin. The black Death Halved the population of Europe: did it usher in a golden age of wealth? or of wonderful rustic fuedalism favoured by eco-feminist-marxists? No, more like slavery, a struggle for existence. Europe did not recover for centuries.

    Comment by Phillip — Tue 24th February 2009 @ 10:09 am

  14. Yeh!! I thought about doing all of those things, but that was as far as I got, only thinking about it. I guess the whole point to my life has been to prove skeptik right, the proof being that people say that I look at least 10-15 years older than I actually am. And to top it all off I did one of those online health surveys a month or two ago and the result was an 85% chance of a heart attack in the next five years. So it turns out that my physical health age and my appearance age are in sync. Its the real time that is out. So that has to be good doesn’t it?

    Comment by Vince — Wed 25th February 2009 @ 11:31 am

  15. Alan, Fill one of those cards in for me too, just tick all those boxes. For once I aced something!!

    Comment by Vince — Wed 25th February 2009 @ 11:37 am

  16. Philip,
    I think you have a point in your last posting.
    After all imagine if Women, Maori or another ethnic group got far less health funding than men.
    There would be uproar.
    But men are supposed to suck it up and sacrifice themselves for women.
    Men really are the second sex in NZ and from what I’ve seen of things in NZ most NZ women are either so self absorbed as to to be ignorant of this or happy to keep it that way. Some others, the really vile ones will even gloat about their privileged status.

    The lasting impression I’ve gotten is that if your male in NZ much of the population views you as shit and not worth spending money on.
    It’s a culture of hatred you unfortunately live and breath in during these kafkaesque post modern times.

    Comment by skeptik — Sat 28th February 2009 @ 4:09 am

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    Comment by Peggy Aeschbacher — Fri 26th March 2010 @ 10:43 am

  18. I posted the questions you’ll see below some months back.
    I thought I’d have another go at seeing if there is anyone out there willing to offer their opinion on certain questions I still have regards men in NZ.
    Here goes –

    With at least 11 different types of contraception available to them why do so many NZ women get themselves pregnant then ditch the father?

    Why do so many women these days think they can unilaterally decide to abort, adopt out or give birth yet make a man (even a man in a coma for god’s sake!) pay for their sole decision?

    Furthermore why do they insist on inconveniencing everyone by being bailed out financially by society for their unilateral decision?

    Doesn’t that seem incredibly self centered?

    Not even about the child in fact, but all about her?

    What does it say about most modern NZ women’s level of maturity and humanity (ability to be an independent adult and be connected to humans including those of the other sex and children)?

    Does this mean there are many NZ women who are selfishly immature and disconnected from wider society?

    If NZ women continue to give birth whilst men there have absolutely no reproductive rights whatsoever what do you think men will do when the male birth control pill arrives? (Trust me I heard news today — it’s much closer to market than most people realize – just google it.)
    Do you think many or even most men will take it?
    If so, why?
    If most men take it, how will women be affected?
    Will they turn to sperm banks instead to get pregnant?
    Would any sensible men even donate to sperm banks if they as donors get forced to pay child tax?
    With a raft of feminist laws and conventions in place which many men say oppress them on a daily basis and the inevitable distancing of men from women and men supporting men rather than women for their own safety not abating any time soon but incrementally increasing how will women cope?
    Will they get increasingly violent towards themselves and others?
    Will they enjoy life as much without male support and companionship as long as they have their material things?
    And how will men enjoy their newfound freedom from providing for and protecting women?
    Will there be a new renaissance age as masses of male creativity is freed up from the bondage of chivalry to explore the sciences, arts, philosophy and sprituality?

    Comment by Skeptik — Mon 22nd November 2010 @ 8:49 pm

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