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Filed under: General — 1948 @ 8:56 pm Sun 23rd August 2009

Hi all
Has any body been able to lay a charge against a woman with police on either false pretence, mental abuse, fraud,making a false statement? Or lay a protection order against a woman? It is a long story with me, but the latest is I have had a protection order placed on me from a person I have not spoken to, seen, or even know where she lives for two years!!! I am sixty one years old, never ever been to court in my entire life. Have two great daughters and four grandkids. I have been the victim of a malicious attack on me, my character and all the good strong great values I have passed on to my children. There has never, ever been any abuse of any kind in our lives. And, I can quite proudly say, I can not ever remember smacking any of my children.
I really do need some help with this, as I am prepared to not only standup for myself in this but all the good women that this person brings into disrepute. This latest episode also involved my home being invaded by police, my firearms confiscated and an order placed on me by a person that apparrently lives in Taranaki and I live in the B.O.P.
If someone can answer my question it would be much appreciated. And if someone can recommend a good honest lawyer, male or female I can approach to represent me would be great. I would also like to comment on a ” anger management course ” as a prerequisite on the placement of the protection order. If I had not filed a defence notice by a certain date, being ONE WEEK form the notice being servered on me, then I was required to attend an anger management course by law!!!! I find this absolutely abhorrent. Because as previously stated I have done nothing wrong at all, this person has been able to sware on a bible an affidavit that is false AND I am judged solely on that affidavit as being guilty.


  1. Good luck trying to find a good honest lawyer that works in the Family Court. I have proof of false allegations that resulted in protection orders however the corrupt Family Court will not accept it got things wrong.
    I feel your pain with the vile system!!

    Comment by dad4justice — Sun 23rd August 2009 @ 9:06 pm

  2. Hi.
    I am assuming a temporary protection order has been granted? If this is the case there is no initial defence. The other party has provided a Family Caught judge with a good enough argument to convince them to grant an immediate 3 month temporary protection order. There is nothing you can do to remove this, except ensure that it is not made permanent and is withdrawal by the Caught by way of a defended hearing. Fight it!

    You should haqve been provided with a copy of the order and the documents that were filed in support of it. If you haven’t then apply to the Family Court where the order was issued for disclosure of the file.

    You must file an intention of defence immediately. If you don’t, the temporary order will be made permanent at the expiry of the three month period.

    You can do this yourself. Subscribe for $45 to and you can download all the forms you need and get advice how to file and represent yourself. If the other party has hired a lawyer you can still defend yourself. Lawyers are costly. Expect to pay $200 – $400 per hour depending how good they are. A top family law barrister in Auckland charges about $390 per hour. An average one costs about $220. There is a lot you can do yourself on the cheap if you have time. Find your local men’s group and see if they can provide a McKenzie Friend. Many do.

    In my case it cost my ex in excess of $50,000 in legal cost hiring fancy lawyers to get a protection order and I defended it myself and won. The economic damage to her was substantial and taught her a better lesson than any court fine could have imposed.

    If you haven’t spoken directly to the applicant then she has quoted other people that you must have had dealings with. These people may have supplied affidavits in support and you need to attach to your notice of defence your own affidavit refuting the applicant’s own affidavit and those in support of her. I am presuming something you are alleged to have said or threatened about your ex partner has been repeated to her.

    Indirect threats or abuse can be used to apply for a protection order, and indeed often are. There is a famous case going on at the moment because a chap simply said to someone his ex-wife derserved a kick in her ample backside.

    Seizing your firearms is standard practice when a temporary protection order is granted. You will get them back if you win, not if you lose.

    Get family and friends to supply affidavits in support of you. Get as many character references as you can and attach these. Where do your children stand in all of this? If they support you and are over 16 get them to supply affidavits as well. If you have a partner prepared to support you, ask her to supply an affidavit in support as well. It helps if you are in a new and healthy relationship. The more evidence you provide the stronger your case.

    If you have a criminal record for violence, then you need to negate this by stating what you have done to change your behaviour. Your ex-partner may also be relying on the fact you were found or had been violent or abusive to her in the past. If this is the case, show what you have done to self-improve. If you weren’t violent in the past, then fantastic! Tell the Court this as well.

    Also argue in your submisisons for your defence that in the event of a finding of domestic violence at the substantive hearing a protection order is not necessary for the safety of the applicant. A finding of violence does not automatically result in a protection order being granted if it is unlikely the violent party will offend again or it is not absolutely necessary to ensure the safety of the applicant.

    Also argue the judge use his or her over riding discretion to refuse to grant a protection order because the applicant is likely to abuse it if granted (your posting suggests this might be the case)

    The judge needs to reach four thresholds – (1) that there was a relationship (a given); (2) that domestic violence occurred (the hearing decides this); (3) a protection order is necessary for the safety of the applicant; and (4) the judge has overiding discretion not to grant an order even if grounds have been established.

    Finally, if you feel she has done things to abuse you, include in the filing of your defence a cross-application for a protection order for yourself. This can include pyschological abuse as well as physical abuse. I get the impression you may have been a victim of the former.

    There is no point in your case offering the court voluntary undertakings to act as if a protection order is in place so the proceedings can be dismissed. Some lawyers will suggest this so the case can be put to rest. I would recommend against this in terms of a final settlement because the ex partner can abuse this just as much as she would abuse a protection order.

    Without knowing the details of your case, but going on your comments. It seems there is a high risk of her abusing a permanent protection order if one was granted.

    Good luck and God Bless!

    Comment by Gerry — Sun 23rd August 2009 @ 9:52 pm

  3. Hi, sorry to hear about your sad and bad situation. I hope you keep us informed.

    Below is something from a site.

    Your rights

    Because the consequences of a Protection Order are so serious, the law gives you the opportunity to oppose the Order or application or to challenge any of the alleged facts or special conditions. The procedure for doing this varies depending on whether you have received a temporary Order or an application on notice.

    Deciding what to do

    Whether you accept responsibility for the domestic violence or you totally disagree with the allegations, it’s important you clearly understand what a Protection Order means and what could happen as a result.

    Find a lawyer – preferably one who is familiar with family law and the Family Court. He/she will help you understand the Order or application and its consequences. Together, you can then work out what the next step should be. Do you wish to deny the allegations? Do you accept the allegations but want to learn to live without violence?

    Defending the Order/Application

    Temporary order. Where the Court makes a temporary Order, you are entitled to challenge whether a final Order should be made. A lawyer can help you prepare your statement. You or your lawyer will then notify the Court, which will set a hearing date. If you don’t file a defence the Order will become final three months after the date it was made.

    Application on notice. If the application is served on you before an Order is made, you will have an opportunity to present your case to the Court before it decides whether to make an Order. A lawyer can help prepare your defence. If you don’t file a defence and don’t appear at the hearing, the Court can make a final Order in your absence.

    If you are in Auckland I suggest Rod Hooker or one of his associates.

    Also North Shore Men’s centre for support.

    Comment by julie — Sun 23rd August 2009 @ 10:18 pm

  4. Hi there
    Thanks.I have had very little to do with the justice system. Except to say that for me, when I am asked to place my hand on the bible as in having affidavits signed, swear that what is written is the truth then that is exactly what it is.I am now very sceptical as to whether those that process these claims ( members of the law society) are actually acting responsiably in that they do not take the time to establish whether there are in fact, reasonable grounds to have a charge laid. I believe there is accountability there. It was explained to me that ” we are very busy and as a matter of course we let people say what they want to say, whether it is truth or not is up to the court to decide” My response? I also am very busy, you are paid to advise on the law and if you did establish reasonable grounds then I believe at least 50% of all cases would perhaps have NO merit!! The person who has attacked me is also on legal aid so has a bottomless pit of money to call on. The lawyers know this and are quite relaxed about clipping the ticket without justification.I am have always believed in the law and those that administer it but I am fast learning that my beliefs and all the great values I have passed on are at risk of becoming a farce. Thanks again for your comment.

    Comment by 1948 — Mon 24th August 2009 @ 10:53 am

  5. Hi Jerry
    Thanks so much for the reply.
    Firstly, I do not have a criminal record of any sort. I got a ticket once for not wearing a seat belt and even that was suspect. I just paid the fine and got on with it.
    I have helped many, many people in my time, proffessionally and in lifes learnings itself. It is my nature and caring for others that in fact has lead to this mess.I met the wrong person at the wrong time, but thought I could at least give to this person to help. There is a very true statement. The art of giving is to give and expect nothing in return. That is an old value that was instilled in me, and in turn, all those that have had contact with me.
    This latest order is part of an on going attack on me simply to extort money from me. It has been brought on by a complaint I have laid to the legal aid agency about abuse of thier system that I in fact, believe in. I believe this person is utilising a system not only to extort from me but also pull down all the many, many good women out there.
    I have noted all the positive comments you have made but I now am struggling with approaching friends and family to step up and help me. my own children have been kept devorced of this whole saga. And so they should be. They have thier own lives to lead and are bothing doing extremely well. I have no doubt, ( they are very similar to thier dad) that if they knew what this person is doing to thier dad they would be extremely annoyed and would only make a bad situation worse!! As to my friends, I have many, right throughout N.Z.. It is not something I would even ask of them. I know the truth and I just hope the system in 2009 will recognise that too.
    I have been to the police to try and lay charges against this person but they say unless it is criminal they do not want to know about it!! I even tried to get them to take a statement from me to assist them the next time this person involves them and wastes thier time. The response was we are too busy!!It is a civil matter.
    You make reference to a McKenzie friend. Who is this?
    I will follow through with your suggestion of a cross application of a protection order.
    Are you aware of any section within the mental health act that could be used?
    I intent to make all the documentation I have availble once I have been cleared of this so it will never happen to any other person. And, it is quite funny really, even after all the pain and anguish this person is putting me through, I still see a little bit of good in her. I probably have had the advantage of a good strong wholesome up bringing where I was taught that in every person there is a little bit of good.
    I am quite sure what you have been through is similar to mine. But the real positive is you have come thruogh it well and has made you a stronger better person. If at all possiable it would be a huge benifit to meet you if you are able. I know that in its self would help me greatly.


    Comment by 1948 — Mon 24th August 2009 @ 11:53 am

  6. Thanks Julie

    it is great that you have involved yourself with this site. I believe it is 10 percent of the fairer gender that pull down 90 percent of the male gender. I have many women friends who are just great people. In fact the best one I have is my fiancee, who I have kept quite sheltered from all this until now, with the placement of this vicious order placed on me. I have a lawyer representing me, but I am not that happy as to where he is taking this.So far it has cost me around 15k and am now told it is going to cost me another 20k!! I can no longer afford to keep paying out as my savings for retirement are being depleted to the extent of having to apply for legal aid. I have never taken from the system all my life, but rather have given to it and to those that deserve it more than me.
    Apparently now, you can lie all you want, but for me I could not live with that lie. Please refer to my other comments.
    I believe it is so nice to know that there is compassion out there and when I read the comments and advice given to me from complete strangers then there still is a caring loving society that are here to help those in need.

    thanks again

    Comment by 1948 — Mon 24th August 2009 @ 12:14 pm

  7. Hmmm it is always the kind nice guys that these BAD women pick on. You must read more of this site, 1948, EXACTLY the same thing has happened to MOST of us on here. The same sort of thing is happening everywhere in the industrial world. IT IS GROSS GROSS INJUSTICE.

    Yes you may have had faith in law and the police before, but you have now entered the twilight world of feministic social engineering jurisprudence. A world where half the population can say and do as they want and can terrorise us all, and the cops , mainly men, are the ones willingly playing alomg with all the disgusting lies and distortion. Most women don’t use these laws of course, but MOST would, given the right circumstances, simply because they are allowed to get away with it. Laws which terrorise us emotionally and financially.

    It has been like this for a long long time, now, male bravado has blinded itself to female violence , both physical and legal. Most men do not have any idea how draconian these anti male laws can be, NO IDEA ! But to those who have experienced this terrorism, we will never forget and our respect for the law has gone forever

    Comment by Ian — Mon 24th August 2009 @ 12:44 pm

  8. 1948, you can read this site, what has happened to THOUSANDS of Kiwi men, but you will not think the same will happen to you, you will (blind) faith in NZ “justice”. But you mark my words, NZ law allows a woman to terrorise you totally if she wants to, it will shake you to the core.

    I STRONGLY advise you to follow what the previous posters have said, the legsl workers will just abuse you, they know men have NO chance of winning, they will just string you along, be careful !

    Comment by Ian — Mon 24th August 2009 @ 12:48 pm

  9. well, well, this is a familiar story.! my ex slapped a trespass notice on me when her relationship broke up and then moved back in town to her fathers across the road, back 2 weeks, i,ve lived in my house 4 yearsin the same street. this one cheated and thought the grass was greener, but i haven,t spoken to her for nearly 18 mths and does tyhis? when they do this sort of thing, trespass,or protection order its trying to get back at the other person because they cant face the truth of what they are guilty off. my wx tried 3 protection orders on me, scared of me then once filed offered me a ride. these woman are bitter, nasty, two faced, vindictive people, knowing that the justice system favours them no matter what they do. example my ex abandonded my son for her boyfriend, handed day to day care to her sister with out my knowledge. the sister then dumped him on the grandfather who needs 24hr care, which the ex and the sister were meant to do, the sister took off to ch-ch for 3 months leaving my son in masterton while the mother was living her life in rotorua with the boyfriend since dec 2008 and the family court thinks thats caring for the child, also ird think the same. like hell.! the judge was judge johnson from wellington, she wasn,t interested in what concerns i had about the boy, siding with the mother. all govt deptseen to go out of there way for woman and us men are the villians. example2 my ex hit me 8 or nine times and i hit her back 1 and the police wanted to charge me, but because she hit 1st they dropped it, but filed that i assaulted her, not mentioning that she hit first with 8 or 9 hits. i found this out in a social workers report ( also a woman ), so santi men and bias, so much for equality.

    Comment by glenn — Mon 24th August 2009 @ 11:09 pm

  10. woman can lie like hell in an affidavit, the truth means nothing to the courts if what they say is against the man they believe it, and if the man say against the woman they class that as getting back at her. these judges like judge johnson from wellington need to take there eye patches off and wake up and smell the roses. oh as i forgot to say in last comment my ex and her sister are maori so abandoning a kid must be in there culture as if this was a pakeha they would have taken the kid off both of them. it all comes down to the colour of your skin?

    Comment by glenn — Mon 24th August 2009 @ 11:21 pm

  11. Crikey,
    Mate, follow the advice above, get your defence sorted yourself.

    If you need a good lawyer, try Claudia Elliott, effective but not free.

    For your reference, it seems even the families commission now admits that Kiwi females are the world’s most physically, psycologically and financially abusive…

    Comment by BG Smith — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 8:28 am

  12. 1948, Hello and Welcome to reality.
    First do not blame yourself. Protections orders are distributed like lollies for the takers. You have done nothing wrong and no man did. Be strong.

    I see you have a fiancee. Well that is why your ex is angry. Women are emotional and vengeful beasts.

    The perception of violence from a woman is enough for a judge to serve you with a protection order. It is the law.

    Do not blame the woman. She is only using the system and the law that made it easy for her to abuse you. The truth is that the system is using her as a tool to make sure lawyers, judges, social workers, psychologists, children agencies get to keep their jobs. Also because the family court is incapable of solving the real problem of real violence and abuse so they need to engineer statistics for the government so they are seen they are doing something about it.

    The only thing you are doing wrong is not sharing your story with your immediate family and friends. This is akin to hiding the evil work the family court is doing. Us here we now all about it. I hope you make sense of all the good advice you hear here. In my opinion hiring a lawyer is feeding the system. By heck if you have a lots of money why not share it. It is not different from racketeers who ask you to pay them to protect you. Protection Orders are Racket.
    All the best.

    Comment by tren Christchurch — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 9:48 am

  13. Hi 1948

    The advice BG gives is good. Claudia Elliott is a very good lawyer. Her long-time partner is a Family Caught judge afterall! But remember good lawyers cost money. Big money. The top ones charge about $300-400 per hour if you want someone like barrister Simon Jefferson in Auckland. He is probably number one in Auckland in terms of standing and reputation. A lot of the big firms retain him and it is hard to go to him direct. Haigh Lyon are his instructing solicitors, so you can sign up with them if you have a treasure chest to spend.

    I don’t know what Ms Elliott charges, but she is quite good as BG says and has represneted a lot of women successfully. It can be a good look to have a woman defend you in the Family Caught. Auckland Barrister Jane Hunter is also very good and knows a lot of expert family law loopholes and traps but expensive. Mind you even good lawyers lose cases, so think about self-representation too. All the lawyers I’ve mentioned have lost cases against less qualified lawyers and even self-litigants. Wendy Galvin of Takapuna thumped Simon Jefferson in one high profile case you can read online. Just google their initials and surmanes names and the case should come up. Worth a read to see how the mighty can be beaten.

    I’ve tried both and being self represeneted has its advantages and disadvantages. The Family Caught does not particularly like self litigants, but they are a major fact of life in the Family Caught and you can save yourself serious money.

    A McKenzie Friend is a person who can assist you in Caught who is not a lawyer and if you are self-represented. Many men’s groups can provide one.In the long run if it is a seemingly never ending case being self-represented is probably the best way to go, but find a good lawyer you can see on an advice only basis for when you need special advice.

    I don’t think the Mental Health Act will help you, but serve the police with an OIA and Privacy Act requests if there have ever been any police call outs and attendances. There might be information in the police reports that support your case, particualrly if there have been mental health issues.

    I visit Auckland frequently and would be happy to meet you. Don’t exchange addresses or names in this site as it is monitored by a lot of people opposed to the men’s movement and they can and will use theses postings against you in Caught. It has happened to me. Set up a new Hotmail email address and then post it on this thread. I will reply to this Hotmail address off-line.

    Comment by Gerry — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 12:57 pm

  14. 1948, Hi

    sorry about your problems…I went thru much the same thing a few years ago, but I was lucky enough to be able to prove my ex’s sworn affadavit was a tissue of lies. It placed her in the position of not being able to attend a Court Hearing. Funny though, despite all my efforts, she was never prosecuted even though the Police were well aware she had repeatedly lied to them and wasted their time. The Police knew if I had been convicted of the allegations she made to them, I could easily have been sent to prison.

    I was lucky. Here’s some tips for you though…do NOT make any attempt even thru a 3rd party to contact your ex.

    Also, my ex accused me of phoning her and abusing her in the alleged calls. I shut my landline down and bought a cell phone. Records are kept of cell phone usage.

    Keep a diary of your whereabouts… and try not be alone. That and the phone thing saved my bacon and proved my ex was a liar.

    Hope this helps.

    Comment by Morris — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 3:36 pm

  15. Hi 1948
    1 Welcome to the real world- of people who now know that this sort of thing happens.
    Previously, you would NOT have believed it, and possibly condemned anyone who had a protection order against them.
    2 Does 1948 mean that you are 3 years younger than I am?
    3 You are lucky that you have two fine daughters and four grandchildren. Many lose their families in these situations.
    4 Take heart that there is a world of good people out there who KNOW this abusive stuff. Don’t waste money on lawyers, they are not your friend, their business is to profit from this type of abuse. Look ON THIS SITE for lay help in your area. A McKenzie friend is an experienced person who will help you to represent yourself to the Court. Your prospects will be FAR BETTER with a good McKenzie friend, than through a Lawyer. Stay calm, get EXPERIENCED help, don’t waste energy trying to counter-attack.

    Best wishes, and good luck

    John (1945)

    Comment by John Brett — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 5:52 pm

  16. Hi
    Laughter is the best medicine of all. It can never be subscibed.I am sixty one years old my children are adult and have given me four wonderful grandchildren. All have been brought up to see a little bit of good in every person. Like me, they certainly have NO knowledge of you. My situation is real, true and is told with dignity. If you want advice just take note of all the great support I have receieved simply by being honest. There are some really wonderful people out there both men and women. The trick is to find them. You have a great day.

    Comment by 1948 — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 6:57 pm

  17. Thanks John
    Over the years my home was and still is open to others that have had problems such as I have now. I have seen it advised on it but never thought it would happen to me! I do not have one bad bone in my body and I now am realising that this person is playing with that at will. Thanks so much for the advice. Yes you are my elder and I guess we both dont get to our age and know nothing.

    Thanks again

    Comment by 1948 — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 7:35 pm

  18. Thanks Morris

    Take care.

    Comment by 1948 — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 7:45 pm

  19. Thanks Jerry

    I will see what I do. I live in the B.O.P

    Comment by 1948 — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 7:48 pm

  20. There are some extreme stories by NZ men, mine is quite bad but just a typical case, violent wife who assaulted me in front of my kids while i was driving. I refused to buy the big house on the beach that she demanded, so she then became unfaithful and took out a Protection Order that threw me out of the house and from my kids’ lives for kids. It was all just an extension of her violence, using a legal tool which is meant to protect women from REALLY violent partners (i never touched her).

    All these draconian legal measures were simply achieved by putting in an affifavit that she was “scared of me” , This was a ENORMOUS assault on my sanity and well being. She then got free house, legal aid, all the benefits of a “victim”, i was on the street with NOTHING, terrorised by the state and by this spiteful woman. I too had to the anti-violence course, although i had never touched her in my life and she had almost blinded me
    These women are simply informed of what to say by the local womens’ refuges and lawyers and they get away with it in almost all cases.
    The media have a virtual blackout of our cause. It is all just terrible, the state is out to get us , they just do not care about men, only our taxes and when there is a war

    Comment by martin swash — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 8:38 pm

  21. I would also advise NOT to use a lawyer at all and to use the Mckenzie friend.

    Comment by martin swash — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 8:41 pm

  22. I know Simon Jefferson, and I would not trust him with the milk money.
    Self-representing men (using a MCKenzie Friend) have a many times BETTER AND MORE SUCESSFULL track record in the Family Court than men using Lawyers, even ones using Simon Jefferson.
    The Lawyers have a financial incentive to maximize conflict, and prolong cases. A Self-litigant just wants a result and go home. A competent McKenzie friend will steer you around pitfalls, and show you how to be most effective. The FC Court DOES NOT LIKE self-representation, BOO HOO- it pricks their bubble, costs them money, and heaven forbid- leads to fathers sometimes winning!

    Comment by John Brett — Tue 25th August 2009 @ 10:06 pm

  23. I self represented last week at the Akl Fam Court. Not a bad result. I at least got a Parenting Order out of them which gives me access to the kids occasionally. The secret is to be VERY prepared. Make a very short list of points and stick to that list. The applicant (mother of my kids) came out of it looking like the bludging control freak that she is and I don’t think her legal aid sponsored lawyer was of any use to her. I had judge McHardy who seemed quite fair in my opinion. One thing I should point out though. If the children are 10 or older the FC will basically do whatever the kids request as far as custody and access is concerned. There is an inherent flaw in this practice; i.e. The custodial parent gets to influence and bribe the children 24/7 so unfortunately the children are often used as the custodial parents mouthpiece. I still don’t have the access that I need and that my children need. I believe that one day they will see through their mothers bullshit and want to spend more time with me. It’s a widely accepted fact that children will eventually rebel against a parent if he/she constantly villianises the other parent. I hope that is the case with me and my children..

    Comment by Had_Enough — Wed 26th August 2009 @ 9:00 am

  24. Hi Jerry

    contact made. PleaS CHECK E-MAIL.


    Comment by 1948 — Thu 27th August 2009 @ 9:13 pm

  25. If you live in Bay of Plenty then get in touch with Union of Fathers on 538 Fraser St, Tauranga.

    Comment by Sanity — Thu 27th August 2009 @ 9:46 pm

  26. I like the recommendation of a lawyer that ‘she has represented a lot of women, successfully’. In a FC one can represent a woman succesfully if you presented in a gorilla suit and sang “I am Woman, Hear me Roar” with a bagpipe accompanyment.

    Comment by amfortas — Fri 28th August 2009 @ 3:14 am

  27. Ha. Its all good mate. One things for sure we must never lose our sense of humour.


    Comment by 1948 — Fri 28th August 2009 @ 7:12 pm

  28. You are reduced to poverty by the state’s filching of your kids, using draconian laws in a secret court. This is all for the state’s financial reasons to pay for the corrupt expenses and pensions and MPs and upper echelon state workers.

    This will never be overturned by “humour”, THERE IS A GRAVE GRAVE INJUSTICE, complacency and acceptance of it all will just perpetuate it

    Comment by swashy — Sun 30th August 2009 @ 4:58 am

  29. There is NO HUMOUR in the destruction of our children!!!
    The New Zealand Family Court is the evil cauldron of deceit. How those lying lawyers, psychologists and judges sleep at night is beyond my comprehension!
    Injustice is the Family Court.

    Comment by dad4justice — Sun 30th August 2009 @ 9:26 am

  30. Hi Jerry

    I have managed to leave an e-mail for you. Please respond back to that and I will reply.


    Comment by 1948 — Sun 30th August 2009 @ 9:46 pm

  31. swashy and dad4justice
    sorry guys. I did not mean to offend. My comment was made to the reference or tune of Helen Reedy!!! Perhaps there is an age line here?

    Comment by 1948 — Sun 30th August 2009 @ 9:52 pm

  32. Sorry 1948, what is the email address? I’m not picking this up. Post the hotmail address here or approach the webmaster for assistance in making off line contact with me.

    Sorry I’m not based in the BOP either.

    Kind regards

    Comment by Gerry — Sun 30th August 2009 @ 11:31 pm

  33. Thanks Gerry

    I did use the webmaster and he said he forwarded contact details. Will do again.

    Comment by 1948 — Mon 31st August 2009 @ 8:01 pm

  34. Claudia Elliot is hopeless, i found her to be arrogant and no use at all, dont waste your time find someone else.

    Comment by James — Fri 18th September 2009 @ 4:29 pm

  35. The same goes for Evgany Orlov. This barister will take all he can and in return will give you nothing. Defend yourself!

    Comment by Truth — Thu 18th March 2010 @ 2:08 pm

  36. Hi Julie and thank you for the information. In reality I found that I had only ONE single right and that is that as a male I have the right to remain silent and it will be inforced relentlesly. I was born guilty along with all other men.

    Comment by Truth — Thu 18th March 2010 @ 2:12 pm

  37. Same thing happened to me my partner was abusive, depressed, dual personality, and anger management issues. She lied to Judge Johnson that I pushed her back which I never have. I never was physically abusive. She had alcoholic sickness and would get violent after she drank. I never saw this for 2 years. When daughter moved in totally different person. Daughter drove a wedge between us. So by lying on affidavit she was able to get temp order. I saw her for 5 months every weekend and we got on well. She made coffee, meals, great sex and again in morning. She told judge we only met twice. Another lie and was consensual on her part. I hav pictures of us together heaps of them, at springs, beach, mall, at her house etc. I found out she was really ill and textd to see if she was OK. Landg in jail for night. Huges mistake on my part. She is calling me 4 x but not other way around. One way street. She stabbed me in chest after one drunken event and said I drove her home which is a lie, I broke up fight w/her and daughter and helpd her to toilet. I woke up to scissors in my chest and I am abusive???? I submitted defense and costings us each $4k, no joy for xmas??? I’m hoping for best just wantg to say I did everything I could to make her happy and actually got on better when we apart. No pigsty, disrespectful daughter to have to put up with. I’m hoping for best. Not looking good for me w/breach but I tried my best. I’m trying to fight false allegations, lies. We had 20+ weekend together and thought things were getting better. Feel I was being used.

    Comment by Jon Schlegel — Mon 25th January 2016 @ 3:49 pm

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