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‘No Smacking Bill – Keeping the debate honest

Filed under: General — Julie @ 12:15 pm Sat 13th June 2009

Linley Boniface is a regular columnist for the Dominion Post . On Monday, she published an column entitled ” A Question smacking of deceit” which attacked the Referendum and Family First.

Statements included:
“Despite clear evidence that the world around us is chock-full of people who couldn’t successfully raise a family of tadpoles to adulthood, we believe anyone above the age of 18 can be trusted to use restraint, caution and common sense in deciding exactly how hard to hit the children in their care. This is presumably why, in July and August, we will go through the utter tedium of yet another public consultation exercise on the child discipline law…”

“Bob McCoskrie, self-appointed champion of “the family”, is given far more media coverage than Unicef, Barnardos, Save the Children or any of the other organisations that support the act, and his continued bleating that the law victimises good parents is largely left unchallenged. The referendum question – “Should a smack as part of good parental correction be a criminal offence in New Zealand?” – not only implies that all good parents smack, but wrongly suggests that a parent who smacks will be prosecuted. It is outrageous that, in a recession, we should be required to spend $10 million for the privilege of answering this deceitful question…”

WE RESPONDED and our article was printed in today’s edition of the Dominion Post – and is reprinted below for your convenience.

Smacking Debate Needs Correction
Bob McCoskrie — National Director — Family First NZ

Linley Boniface is right on one thing. We should not be spending $10m on a Referendum on the anti-smacking law. But we are for two reasons. Firstly, the politicians failed to listen to the overwhelming majority of NZ’ers who knew the law change would do nothing to tackle our horrendous rate of child abuse (and it hasn’t), and secondly the previous government failed to hold the Referendum at the more economical time of a General Election because they knew the issue would bring about their downfall. It did anyway.

But Boniface needs correction on many other things. 113 politicians did vote for the law — after being whipped to vote that way by Helen Clark and John Key. Phil Goff and Paula Bennett have now admitted that they don’t agree with the law as stated.

The law change was labelled the anti-smacking bill because this is what the architect of the law change (Green MP Sue Bradford) called it. And groups who supported it such as Barnardos, Plunket, EPOCH and the previous Children’s Commissioner have all been calling for a ban on smacking since 2001.

The question “Should a smack as part of good parental correction be a criminal offence in NZ” was publicly notified for submissions in 2007 but there was no opposition from these groups at that time. They never believed that more than 300,000 voters would sign a petition demanding a say on this issue — the majority of whom signed the petition after the amendment was passed.

Those who oppose the question simply don’t like the answer they come to — no! And despite Boniface’s disparaging claim that the ‘world around us is chock-full of people who couldn’t successfully raise a family of tadpoles to adulthood’, the huge majority of good kiwi parents raising great kids simply don’t buy the notion that a light smack as part of correction is a ‘physical assault’, encourages violence, or should be treated as child abuse under the law. Significantly, these parents and grandparents were raised in a generation where a smack on the bottom or hand was not frowned upon but an assault was an assault, and treated as such. There was even — shock horror — some corporal punishment. Yet we turned out pretty well didn’t we.

Much of the research cited does not adequately distinguish the effects of smacking, as practiced by non-abusive parents, from the impact of severe physical punishment and abuse. But a 2007 Otago University study found that children who were smacked in a reasonable way had similar or slightly better outcomes in terms of aggression, substance abuse, adult convictions and school achievement than those who were not smacked at all. And a study by the Christchurch School of Medicine found there was no difference in outcomes between no smacking and moderate physical punishment. They said, ‘It is misleading to imply that occasional or mild physical punishment has long term adverse consequences’.

The other research worth noting is the experience of Sweden – one of the first countries to ban smacking in 1979. 30 years on, figures from The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention show that since the ban, there has been more than a 15-fold increase in physical abuse against children under the age of 7, and more than 24 times as many charges of criminal assaults by minors against minors. Do we really want to follow that lead?

A Police six month review early last year showed a 200% increase in families being investigated for ‘smacking’ and ‘minor acts of physical discipline’ yet less than 10% were serious enough to warrant prosecution. During that six month period, four ‘minor acts of physical discipline’ were prosecuted.

And the number of notifications to CYF has seen an explosion of over 30% since the passing of the law yet the number of cases requiring further investigation has decreased. We are wasting valuable police and CYF resources investigating cases that simply aren’t abuse — good parents reported by schools, neighbours and even the children themselves against their parents.

There are some rotten parents out there and I personally want laws that are applauded for preventing the types of child abuse cases we have seen like Nia Glassie, the Kahui twins and Coral Burrows — not laws that are lauded because barely anybody’s been prosecuted under them despite the horrific levels of abuse continuing.

The law as it stands is confusing. In research done in March 2009, respondents were asked whether the new law makes it always illegal for parents to give their children a light smack. 55% said yes, 31% said no, and 14% didn’t know. Parents have been given conflicting messages by the promoters of the law, legal opinions have contradicted each other, and on top of that is police discretion but not CYF discretion to investigate. Families don’t know how they will be treated.

Meanwhile, the rate of child abuse continues. Sue Bradford said her bill was never intended to solve the problem of child abuse. She was right.

9 Responses to “‘No Smacking Bill – Keeping the debate honest”

  1. Scott B says:

    I still believe that no matter whether you agree with smacking your kids or not this legislation is feminist and damn scary for anyone who is seperated from their children. Why? Cause it’s like the protection orders… all it’s gonna take is one little false accusation and it’s all over red rover!

  2. Hans Laven says:

    The level of dishonesty and manipulation by those supporting the Bradford law has been unbelievable. Leaving out the misuse of terms, false reporting of research and emotive irrelevancies, their case simply has not been made in my opinion. On the other hand, those opposing the Bradford law tend to provide balanced, reasoned, honest and evidence-based arguments. This piece from Bob McCoskrie is a good example; well done Bob.

  3. Scott B says:

    Agreed Hans. Everytime I have encountered someone who supports her law, I get accused of being a child abuser!

  4. Dave says:

    “…we believe anyone above the age of 18 can be trusted to use restraint, caution and common sense in deciding exactly how hard to hit the children in their care.”
    When you consider this statement you see that is exactly what any rational person believes. If you have attained the age of 18, had a baby and still don’t know what is an appropriate level of force to use with your own child then you are criminally liable. What exactly is wrong with this belief? If the law is to assume that adults can not be trusted to make this determination then exactly what parenting decisions does the law assume adults are capable of?

  5. Dave says:

    “The referendum question — “Should a smack as part of good parental correction be a criminal offence in New Zealand?” — not only implies that all good parents smack, but wrongly suggests that a parent who smacks will be prosecuted.”

    I don’t take this to imply good parents smack. Perhaps they could have used the word “balanced” or something rather than “good” to make their intention clear. Frankly you’d have to be pretty damn thick to take this statement to mean good parents smack. How you could twist this around to imply ALL good parents smack is extremely difficult to follow. Linley Boniface’s grasp of the English language and grammar must be very poor.

    “…but wrongly suggests that a parent who smacks will be prosecuted” It doesn’t imply that at all. This part of the statement is entirely factual and accurate. “Should XYZ be a criminal offence?” is exactly the issue. Currently it is an criminal offence. There is no two ways about it. The whole question is whether it should be a criminal offence. Hundreds is not thousands of people commit offences under the law all the time. Nobody ever suggested all those offences are prosecuted.

    I agree that the supporters of this Act don’t want to have a rational discussion about the issue because they don’t like where they end up.

  6. Hans Laven says:

    Hear hear Dave (reply # 5). This illogical misrepresentation of a simple statement is typical of the anti-smacking brigade’s approach. Unbelievable if it were not true.

    Although the referendum question begs the question of smacking being part of good parental discipline, it still asks whether smacking, done in the spirit that the vast majority of parents always used it, should be illegal. After thinking about it I believe it will be quite adequate in measuring public attitude to the Bradford law.

  7. Hans Laven says:

    Can anyone guess what my new logo shows or where it came from? No prize though, unfortunately.

  8. John (Doe ;) says:

    I just wanted to remind readers of what John Key said before he became the Prime Minister of New Zealand. He was very clear in his view:

    I’d like to know how he can even contemplate ‘dictating’ his new view, while a democratic system; a valid referendum where more than 10% of registered voters signed the petition. And to start questioning the way that referenda are worded is political suicide.
    I never got to sign the original petition, but I sure will be voting ‘NO’ next month. If he doesn’t agree to the people’s view then perhaps we should consider a new petition for a referendum worded as such ‘Should persons who smacked a child before Section 59 was repealed be prosecuted too?’. I’d vote YES for that as John Key has made it clear that he is guilty of exactly that.

  9. Scott B says:

    Animals nudge and/or smack their young and we are just animals so why shouldn’t we? Sure apparently have rational thoughts, but do children? Also to say animals don’t is insulting.

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