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The rape culture of feminism

Filed under: General — Julie @ 8:33 pm Sat 23rd May 2009

Do you remember these feminist quotes?

“All men are rapists and that’s all they are.”
Author; (later, advisor to Al Gore’s Presidential Campaign.) – Marilyn French

“I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire.”

Ms. Magazine Editor. – Robin Morgan

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No-one stopped to think this nonsense/theory might be a bad idea to throw tax paid money at. We have certainly come to a stage where 60-85% of rape claims are false by police statistics yet we keep hearing from rape crisis that less than a third of their callers have been to the police to lay charges.

And we have just had ‘rape week’ with the message that rape is preventable and people can do something positive about it.

RPE director Kim McGregor said that in virtually every school the organisation worked, both low and high deciles, there were disclosures of child sexual abuse.

“Rape is preventable, yet it is estimated that one in four females and one in eight males are sexually abused in this country,” Dr McGregor said.

You could almost fall for schools pushing prevention honestly if you didn’t know that the only rights males have in New Zealand are to prevent harm on women/girls and women/girls are always the victim to males. Of course while a boy is under 13 he is also a victim to an elder male. (welcome to political correctness)

And you could fall for it also if you didn’t understand how feminist statistics work for rape funding.

In 1985 the Western Australian parliament dramatically amended the law relating to rape, first by changing the term rape to sexual assault and then greatly widening the definition of what could be classed as sexual assault. Many acts not previously constituting rape were included in the new Act and the criteria for sexual assault was any type of penetration where consent was not present and ongoing. It did not matter that force or threats were not used. The penalty for any type of sexual assault was increased ….

To see the true RAPE CULTURE, one needs to look at what our professors in Universities are teaching our leading feminists throughout the world.

The False Rape Society website has a huge amount of information started by a U.S.-based attorney to help raise awareness about Western Civilisation’s taboo epidemic, wrongful rape claims.

In Addressing Rape Reform in Law and Practice (2008), Professor Susan Caringella of Western Michigan University’s Sociology Department, says: “It is high time to give victims a fair shake, to dismantle the zealous overprotection for men accused of this crime, which have been buoyed up by the myths about false accusations, ulterior motives, and so on, commonly embraced when rape charges are levied.”

Protection? What protection do men have? A camera in the car? No camera in the car? Cell phone camera? More cell phone camera? More. I could go on and on with accounts of false rape in newspapers all over the world.

But what feminists are doing gets worse.

Professor Liz Kelly is quoted in The Hidden Gender in Law (2002) at page 327: “. . . men use a variety of forms of abuse, coercion and force in order to control women. . . . [S]exual violence exists in most women’s lives . . ..” At pages 350-51: “There is no clear distinction . . . between consensual sex and rape,

Wow! All males seriously are considered rapists.

But wait there’s more!

Feminist Wendy McElroy writes: “There is little clarity to what radical feminists deem to be consent and coercion in sex. Consider a typical definition of sexual violence presented by Liz Kelly in her book Surviving Sexual Violence: ‘Sexual violence includes any physical, visual, verbal or sexual act that is experienced by the woman or girl, at the time or later, as a threat, invasion or assault that has the effect of hurting her or degrading her and/or taken away her ability to control intimate contact.’ This type of language has become a common guideline for identifying sexual violence. One of many problems with this definition is its subjectivity. The woman need not have felt threatened or coerced at the time of the sex act for that act to be sexual violence. In the light of regrets, the women might conclude later that she had been coerced. Moreover, it relies entirely upon the women’s experience, not the man’s or the totality of the experience.”

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One of the problems with our own NZ rape crisis (added to the above) is that the women in the positions to throw every man and boy in prison think that women don’t even drink of their own accord. They think men are responsible for that too. They don’t think women are capable of saying ‘YES’ or ‘NO’ when drinking so our prisons are filling up with men because women have later decided to change their mind. Most rape complaints in NZ today involve alcohol and a couple of drinks found in a woman’s system is automatically rape with or without a woman’s say. Married or not.

And truth be told, “Women in NZ are treated like little children who can’t be held responsible for anything. Not even prison. It is ALWAYS male’s fault.”

We are no different from overseas feminists.

Today, as we sit outraged in our armchairs, 4,274 women and girls languish in our jails. These are not the dangerous criminals one might imagine, but often sad victims of circumstance and violence — often at the hands of men. More than half have been victims of domestic violence, a third have experienced sexual abuse, and 25% have been in care as children. Two-thirds of women in prison have dependent children under 18; of these, just one in 20 remain in their own home once their mother has been sentenced.

These vulnerable women, damaged at the hands of men through violence, sexual abuse, neglect, or trafficking, are victims themselves.

Tragically, the dire consequences leave blood on the male-dominated government’s hands.“>Read full article.

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I hope sincerely you keep the false rape society bookmarked.


  1. I visit a lot of sites and blogs and normally they fail to deliver, but this one is different. It’s the real deal! Thank you, I am very grateful to you.

    Comment by lucy wayner — Sat 23rd May 2009 @ 11:15 pm

  2. I worked at Massey University in the 80’s during this “Crisis” these stickers were everywhere.

    A visiting feminist stated (After departing the University) that 60% of female students were victims of rape. The heirachy exploded. Even the Fems openly said it wasn’t true. It turned out the visitor said that she used the feminist version of rape which included any act which the woman at any time later felt guilty about!

    I wonder how these people would explain cases like that of Briar Dravitski (24) would explain her having had sex wiuth a 13 year old youth or Christina Oliver (33) and her mate Lynette Stewart 38 who were charged with raping another yong woman. The doctor stated that injuries sustained by the victim were the worst they had seen in 20 years.

    Were these woman rapists?

    Comment by Alastair — Sat 23rd May 2009 @ 11:24 pm

  3. “and force in order to control women…” “or taken away her ability to control intimate contact.” So women can control it and it isn’t rape but if men do or are percieved to, then it is rape! Great.

    Comment by Scott B — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 12:38 am

  4. Much of the rape hysteria statistically eminates from Miriam Sophira’s ‘study’ from the 1980s. That she was awarded a master’s degree at Waikato University for it remains an appalling misuse of taxpayer’s money.
    Here’s how her study went….
    Sophira took out some space in the NZ Women’s weekly which at the time had a circulation of approximately 250,000……….
    out of that number a paltry 400 or so responded and 100 or so SELF SELECTED respondants replied that they’s experienced sexual coersion……..
    so Sophira had less than 0.01 of the total adult female population of NZ as her sample……yet she maliciously extrapolated out that therefore 1 in 4 women in NZ had been sexually abused.
    This was picked up by media feminists and became widely published on TV and the radio, in the newspapers and magazines.
    It was around this time that thousands of copies of the book entitled “All men are bastards” could be found on book shop shelves.
    Teacher training colleges in NZ were plastered with anti-rape posters and the misandric “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle” bumper sticker could be seen.

    Comment by Skeptik — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 6:06 am

  5. Meanwhile the silence from feminists is deafening about this kind of thing.

    Comment by Skeptik — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 6:42 am

  6. Seems even on the other side of the world at the The National Post newspaper in Canada knows more about the real NZ than our supposedly educated politicians like Family Affairs honcho Peter Dunne!!!
    This taken from one of thier writers Barbara Kay –

    “Police officials in New Zealand state that 64% of rape reports are false”.

    Comment by Skeptik — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 7:00 am

  7. And here I was thinking that sex wasn’t about control!

    Comment by Scott B — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 9:36 am

  8. I have been thinking that most feminists don’t want equality.

    If men are responsible to prevent harm to women, then aren’t we asking for Shari law? Or that women (especially girls) be chaperoned like they do in Greece, Lebanon and other Eastern countries?

    We have 50% police women and all those women are chaperoned by a male partner. (on the front line)

    This is a worry. But it does show that men are not necessarily the Patriarchy. Women are. Damn it, feminists are themselves.

    They are asking for men to be responsible for them. That is not the kind of freedom I was hoping for.

    Comment by julie — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 12:13 pm

  9. I have been thinking that most feminists don’t want equality.

    They want superiority but need psychiatry. They’ll end sharing the misery that they cause to men, women and children alike.

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 12:29 pm

  10. A good cops a dead cop im still jumping over the death of the cop a few weeks back
    dirty pig got what he deserved
    Ive been labeled a women abuser by the justice department
    Never hit nore threaten to hit my ex she never accused me of hitting her
    she more or less got sick of me texting and i ended up being slapped with a protection order
    now what i find crazy is back when i was 18 years old i was arrested in
    christchurch pretty drunk would not give my name to the cops
    was taken to chch police station and over a period of a hour
    I was beating around the back of the head with a phone book by 3 different
    cops taking turns for not giving my name … Now you tell me who is the real
    abusers. Its the people that work in the justice system….
    talk about double standards label me an abuser for texting when people
    that work in the system assaulted me in such a way. Dirty low life pigs
    when they get hurt or killed in the line of duty they get what they deserve as
    they are only getting back what they give. I think its called Karma…
    hope the dead dirty pig rots in hell

    Comment by lance — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 2:37 pm

  11. and if the cops family suffer all the better as they have
    bread an abuser

    Comment by lance — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 2:59 pm

  12. So you are “jumping” over the death of a cop because you hate all cops?

    That is is unbelieavable.

    The bad experience you had with three of them does not make all cops bad. From all accounts the one who died in Napier was a pretty good one.

    Wishing harm on others out of blind prejudice is reprehensible.

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 3:43 pm

  13. they pigs all believe in the same thing
    they may appear good on the outside but when you have experienced
    what i have you no the truth they are rotten to the core
    a pig is a pig dude may they rot in hell

    Comment by lance — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 4:01 pm

  14. Lance,
    Some straight talking feedback for you dude ….
    Your attitude is stupid.
    You hate ALL cops because of the actions of a few. Dumb!
    You arrogantly think you know what ALL cops believe. Double dumb!

    Now in case you feel tempted to flame Daryll and I here’s a suggestion….
    Just ask anyone else who comes to this forum if they agree with Daryll and I.
    I’ll bet you EVERYONE who responds here does!!!

    Comment by Skeptik — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 4:10 pm

  15. The “pigs” as you call them once saved my life.

    I suggest putting aside your prejudice and judging them as the individual people they are. You might then learn that they are actually here to keep us safe from thieves and thugs, not to upset you.

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 4:13 pm

  16. Two more things.

    Firstly, while violence is never justified, why didn’t you just give them your name?
    Secondly, you admit you were drunk. Were you getting smart to them?

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 4:17 pm

  17. theres one worse then the a pig and thats a pig lover

    Comment by lance — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 4:45 pm

  18. lol that came out wrong Its meant to read
    there is one thing worse then a Pig
    and that is a pig lover

    Comment by lance — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 4:45 pm

  19. You really seem to have it in for the police.

    Tell me you aren’t a career criminal.

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 5:18 pm

  20. I am pleased you spoke up. I wanted to say something but didn’t know what to say. Lance may be angry and letting off steam. (which is all good) But I think he does see the good in the police also.

    I remember the stories of the phone books but at the same time most cops would just drive you home.

    Comment by julie — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 5:28 pm

  21. The whole thing sounds like a wind up to me.
    Id just ignore the guy instead of adding to the wind up

    Comment by Jason — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 5:42 pm

  22. Back to the subject line – The rape culture of feminism is mearly another part of the **Empire of Injustice** expanding itself anbd building business – These outragious Girls and their Male supporters play right into the hands of this Empire – Onward – Jim

    Comment by Jim Bailey — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 5:43 pm

  23. Hi Julie

    Letting off steam is one thing, but do not forget that this forum is one of the public faces of the movement, so extremely intemperate comments are highly irresponsible.

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 5:50 pm

  24. I always tell my mates who hate cops the best way to get back at them all is to NEVER commit any crimes. Send them all to WINZ!
    No crime = no job

    You should complain in writing about any cop that assaults you. So what if they don’t believe you. They probably won’t. You never know how many others have complained about the same cops before you. Even if you’re the first to complain about them, you’ll be making it easier for the next complainant to be believed. Sooner or later the bad cops will have sphincter convulsions.

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Sun 24th May 2009 @ 7:23 pm

  25. Come on Jim, don’t try to censor the debate!!!!

    This is no place for gatekeepers.

    Kind regards


    Comment by Darryl Ward — Mon 25th May 2009 @ 7:41 am

  26. Darryl, don’t you thing Jim deserves sympathy because of his condition. I don’t think his medication will have taken effect yet!

    Comment by Alastair — Mon 25th May 2009 @ 9:10 am

  27. I think this supports Lances proposition though, from Stuff today:

    A Catholic priest has condemned Christchurch police as “tactless” after they staked out a funeral and allegedly stopped a car-load of mourners at gunpoint in an effort to find the dead man’s fugitive son.

    Several police were at the funeral of Linwood’s Tala Seleni, who was found dead in an apparent murder-suicide this month.

    At the time Seleni’s son, Tasi, 29, was on the run from police who wanted him on charges of kidnapping and stabbing. He did not attend the service after he got wind of the police presence.

    Pauline Seleni, Tasi’s mother and Tala’s separated wife, said police had violated the “sanctuary” of the church and prevented her son from making his farewell to his father.

    Yesterday, police confirmed they had officers at the service at St Paul’s Church in Dallington 10 days ago. Armed police were present but that went “hand-in-hand” with the violent nature of the charges.

    Seleni was eventually arrested in Rangiora on Thursday. Police had issued a public alert for him in mid-February.

    Father John Rizzo, who conducted the funeral, said he got a call from the funeral home saying there would be a “discreet police presence”. Rizzo said the action was “tactless”.

    “Obviously there was some potential trauma. They were planning to arrest him on the spot. I said, if you have any contact with the police, please, ask them, please, let him come to the funeral, let him grieve and get some closure.”

    Pauline Seleni said after the funeral police searching for her son had “put guns on the mourners” at the Memorial Park Cemetery on Ruru Road, Linwood, and had stopped a car of mourners at gunpoint.

    She said as they buried her husband police in armed offenders fatigues could be seen in the trees. “They had them in the trees there, the dogs were there, we could hear them barking.

    “It’s disgusting. I know they were after my son but not there the church is a sanctuary, world-wide.”

    She claimed a deal had been struck with Samoan community elders to bring Tasi in to police the day after the funeral if he were allowed to attend. But Detective Sergeant Scott Anderson, of the Hornby Police, said there was no such deal.

    “We were present at the funeral, we made no secret of that. Her son was wanted on very serious offences, he was on the run from police. We’re duty bound to try and arrest him.”

    Anderson said Seleni was arrested following a tip from the public. Last night, a police spokeswoman said a church was a public place and a person can be arrested in one.

    Though it is not only Police, there is the media also. I was at a funeral a couple of years ago of a man whose son became a high profile murderer. TV3 staked out the venue for the funeral incase the son (A model low security prisoner) was granted leave to attend.

    In the event they were to late! He had already visited his father in the hospice two days previously. Escourted by an officer who had also got to know his Father in a car driven by the unit manager. Let’s give Corrections a round of applause for this action.

    Comment by Alastair — Mon 25th May 2009 @ 9:33 am

  28. said police had violated the “sanctuary” of the church… who cares? The Chch Catholic church didn’t and don’t give a **** about family.

    Comment by Scott B — Mon 25th May 2009 @ 9:53 am

  29. well put, good work lance lot link – take pity for the gullible..

    Comment by wind up — Mon 25th May 2009 @ 11:27 am


    Comment by wind up — Mon 25th May 2009 @ 11:32 am

  31. Facile.
    Peurile and totally off topic.
    Shit music too.

    Comment by Skeptik — Mon 25th May 2009 @ 11:49 am

  32. I think a better one can be offered. This guy sounds … well, I think he is onto something.

    Comment by julie — Mon 25th May 2009 @ 1:19 pm

  33. Go Julie – Great you tube post – Onward – Jim

    Comment by Jim Bailey — Mon 25th May 2009 @ 4:28 pm

  34. It seems my claim that there are GateKeepers in the tiny part of the NZ Men and their FAMILIES Movement that float around Paul’s, Chucks and Johns News has been taken seriously – I am flattered – – Shame the desire for support on important issues is seen as desiring sympathy – Still – shows one Loud and Clear why the numbers of Kids without DAD or so called DADs that serve mum, grows by the hour – The so called defenders of the FAMILY – argue about debate, leadership, style, sanctuary. In the meantime The rape culture of feminism marches on without hinder and few warriors to block it – Onward – Jim

    Comment by Jim Bailey — Mon 25th May 2009 @ 4:49 pm

  35. Terrific that you like the youtube, Jim.

    Comment by julie — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 12:11 am

  36. Actually Jim, quite a bit happens on the lists you mentioned.

    What is ‘tiny’ is the number of people like you who have been BANNED from most of them for repeated abusive behaviour.

    Kind regard


    Comment by Darryl Ward — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 12:46 am

  37. When one calls direct responce, abusive behaviour and abuses their power to limit that responce is it not called GateKeeping.

    To my knowledge I have only been banned by the smallest part of the so called Men and their FAMILIES Movement, that is from those that float around Paul’s, Chuck’s and John’s News.

    I would say that demeans and confirms the GateKeepers, not me or the real NZ Men and their FAMILIES Movement. Several of who invite me on a regular basis to speak into their groups.

    The RSA, well Birkenhead anyway does more for the Men and the FAMILIES movement by promoting Mens and organising free Mens Health checks (17th of June for those interested) than the Gatekeepers do in a year.

    Are you challenging my understanding of language or are you challenging my honesty?

    Read Luke 6:39 and George Rolphs WHEN THE BLIND LEAD THE BLIND…… on Equal Parenting @ Ration Shed and answer the questions – You may get some better understanding of the damage the Gatekeepers are causing and how akin they really are to our NZ Polititians who have created the mess we live in.

    Onward – Jim

    Comment by Jim Bailey — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 4:15 am

  38. John’s news? What’s this? never heard of it.
    Gatekeeper- I admit to being a gate keeper for modified vehicles- nothing else though.
    Defender of the family? You? Spending 10 years whining about not getting an extra $20 per week (half of the $40 pw difference between single benefit and benefit with dependant child?).
    You could have spent that time re-building your life, being an example to your son.

    I have heard many heroic stories, seen many men make great achievements with their families.
    But I don’t see Jim Bailey as one of these, nor as having a pulpit from which to preach down at other fathers.

    Do something constructive with your life Jim- start by getting a life. You would become more confident within yourself, and less bitter at the world around you.

    Comment by John Brett — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 9:44 am

  39. I’m a gatekeeper too. Same as you – my family and belongings including my car.

    I seriously do want a chance at comedy. I hope you come see me because I think you would appreciate how you go from sane to insane and then sane beyond sane. lol (i think that is a higher insanity)

    No-one has real power. Not on this site and certainly not in NZ. Maybe a few in America but I don’t even think Helen Clarke will have real power in Africa. Their men’s movement is well on it’s way compared to little 4 million people NZ. Shame really!

    But in all honesty, this movement will grow all by it’s little self through the hardships others endure and the kindness and strength and love others give out unconditionally.

    But as a few have put it to me, “You are no use if you can’t build your own foundation first (you own security of life)”. You can’t lead if you can’t lead by example, basically.

    Comment by julie — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 12:38 pm

  40. Anyhow, so much for my serious article on rape. I have read many articles on rape in NZ and Darryl (nice picture BTW, great to see) has been a part of speaking out well and publicly. I hope somehow, someway, we can get beyond “Who’s better than who” and just get this over and done with so generations of boys get to be boys, young males and men.

    Jim, I think it is great you are speaking out in front of groups. You must be in the process of making a good lobby group. Well done. One of the things I learnt in the community is that you have to safe guard your work because there is always someone wanting to take over.

    Be a gatekeeper. That is what most groups have to do. There is nothing wrong with being a leader. Be proud but please let others build their things too.

    It will all come together. You will see. Just hang in there.

    Kindest regards,


    Comment by julie — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 1:00 pm

  41. Dear Jim

    All lists I have ever helped to manage promoted and valued free and frank discussion.

    However, from time to time we had problems with bullies who have attempted to dominate the lists, bullies that SHOUTED ALL THE TIME, bullies whom insulted those who thought differently and bullies that abused the moderators for attempting to maintain some semblance of order to enable free and frank discussion to continue.

    Conversely, the only gate keeping I have ever encountered was on Jim’s News (I am following your precedent of identifying groups by their owners), to which I had the misfortune to belong to briefly.

    Firstly, you threatened to BAN me for failing to state my country of origin in a post that did not conform your dictated format.

    Then you threatened to BAN me a second time for entering into discussion, as all discussion was banned by the decree of Herr Jim.

    Only notices of events were to be posted.

    Then, when it become obvious to all that your extreme censorship was a complete joke, you suddenly reversed the rules and issued another decree that essentially allowed open slather was allowed.

    While abusive behaviour was officially off limits, it quickly became obvious that that the rules weren’t really rules, as your sidekick was allowed to breach them with impunity. When I complained about his abuse of me, you couldn’t care less and basically told me to toughen up.

    So, despite having joined in good faith, I left Jim’s news, and I could almost hear the whining about it from Wellington.

    I have looked in from time to time when I have been extremely bored (something that thankfully happens very rarely), and nothing was happening apart from the odd bit of news about someone protesting somewhere overseas. Nothing was being done that will help fathers and their children in any meaningful manner, and I simply can’t be bothered wasting my time and energy where it will achieve no good.

    So people invite you to speak?


    I also get invited to speak, but I don’t go big noting about it.

    You see, while I am involved with a few projects to help fathers at the moment, I like to keep my activities reasonably low key, simply because I am not interested in the kudos.

    Sadly, some people seem to be only in the movement for their egos, and think it is breaking news when they get to meet a backbench MP or speak to some community group.

    Others seem to only want platforms to whine ad nauseum about how badly they feel they have been treated, without making any effort to get off their arses and help themselves, and I it makes me angry that there are people in the movement that don’t see their own children because they refuse to do so. There are REAL dads out there that would give their right hands to see their children.

    Finally, there are those are more interested in a making a real difference and achieve things without big noting about it. It is on the latter that I have any time for these days.

    Carry on whining if you want, Jim, but you aren’t fooling very many people.

    However, if you want to really make a difference, get over your negativity and make some use of the talents that I know God has given you.

    Kind regards


    Comment by Darryl Ward — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 8:22 pm

  42. Thanks Julie, but you are far more photegnic than I will ever be 🙂

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 8:24 pm

  43. I don’t know about that. That’s a pretty sexy picture. (nothing intended, I respect you)

    But I am feeling down right now. I just told the anti feminist movement that they are as sick as sick can be online. I can’t take the amount of males from single parents looking for male role models following unhealthy men.

    I am on your side if I have to choose. I don’t want our young men to be a pawn for miserable men to get back at feminists. And I want feminists to stop and think how bad this situation is.

    That in itself motivates me. Are you in Auckland, Darryl?

    Comment by julie — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 8:45 pm

  44. Thank you again Julie.

    Done properly, black and white can hide a multitude of flaws 😉

    It can be a lonely struggle trying to put the world right, and we are never going to get it right all the time. In retrospect, I should not have been quite so harsh with Jim.

    What I said needed to be said, but I could have been a little bit more diplomatic. (I also could have weeded out a few typos that slipped through!!!!) Alas, I have not yet worked out how to edit comments that have already been published.

    I know that Jim really does mean well, but I wish he would stop blaming others for the consequences of his own actions (such as behaviour that resulted in him getting kicked off most men’s list in the country). If he would only let go of his resentments, he would go back to being the Jim I prefer to remember.

    Kind regards


    P.S. — No, I am not in Auckland but at the other end of the island.

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 10:23 pm

  45. Well put both of you. I have been watching, quietly chortling at the “Gatekeeper” debate. As I recolect things the first person to throw the epithet “Gatekeepers” was the person now objecting to it’s use on him 🙂

    P.S. For the Record Julie, I am down towards Darryl, Though my city is spelt without an “H”

    Comment by Alastair — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 11:32 pm

  46. In case anybody is wondering, Alastair is not from Lower Utt….

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Tue 26th May 2009 @ 11:46 pm

  47. Any more GateKeepers ready to admit who they are?
    Come forth with your weasel words as above.
    Onward – Jim

    Comment by Jim Bailey — Wed 27th May 2009 @ 12:55 am

  48. So it must be; One Unga.

    Someone said to me today that the Maori didn’t have any written language so they shouldn’t be making such demands.

    Comment by julie — Wed 27th May 2009 @ 7:52 pm

  49. Only you so far, Jim.

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Wed 27th May 2009 @ 9:01 pm

  50. Pardon. Could spmebody please elucidate Jim’s question. I do not comprehend.

    Comment by Alastair — Wed 27th May 2009 @ 9:06 pm

  51. They still haven’t Julie. I’m not certain that many can even read.

    Comment by Alastair — Wed 27th May 2009 @ 9:07 pm

  52. I think Jim is asking whether any other gatekeepers are willing to come out, but I am not aware of any others.

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Wed 27th May 2009 @ 9:47 pm

  53. Ooh thankd Darryl. When a person accuses another they should remember those 3 fingers pointed right back at them. That’s what I couldn’t understand. I could place only one Gate Keeper! 🙂

    Comment by Alastair — Wed 27th May 2009 @ 10:59 pm

  54. I think Jim is referring to the 2005 men’s summit where men have explicitly stated only men know men’s experiences. Which is all fine and dandy with me.

    But Hey Darryl and Alistair, getting back on track to feminist rape culture …. I found something interesting that you may or may not know of. (possibly good for other readers)

    Can’t seem to copy and paste bits but it is interesting how post-feminism versus 70’s feminism and that the victim status is as I said in comment #7. (just 2 short pages)

    Comment by julie — Thu 28th May 2009 @ 1:38 am

  55. The text can’t be copy/pasted because you’re viewing an image (PNG image) that scrolls (and is copywrited :wink:). It’s an interesting read thank-you. I won’t be buying the book 🙂

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Thu 28th May 2009 @ 7:48 am

  56. Thanks for your reply.

    Edit… Oh, and knowledge. (I won’t be buying the book either)

    Comment by julie — Thu 28th May 2009 @ 8:51 am

  57. Head lines read Family upset by cop killer’s sentence

    another head line says No charges for AOS members over motorway shooting

    lol cops got away with murder guy gets done for killing a cop (which is a good thing)
    and family moans he didnt get long enough.. haha cops kill someone and walk free

    which brings me back to my believe a god cops a dead cop they are low life scum

    Comment by brent — Thu 28th May 2009 @ 2:29 pm

  58. The problem is that only males were killed. We’re not worth much apparently. You get the real sentence whenever you kill a child or woman. You get a discount for killing a man.

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Thu 28th May 2009 @ 8:00 pm

  59. Saying “a god cops a dead cop” (sic) is like saying “all men are rapists”.

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Thu 28th May 2009 @ 8:02 pm

  60. i thought all men were rapists though… and pillagers…

    Comment by why so serious — Thu 28th May 2009 @ 8:27 pm

  61. the legalisation of prostitution allow’s all men to be rapists.. (albeit a small fee)

    Comment by why so serious — Thu 28th May 2009 @ 8:29 pm

  62. Brent,
    your ideas make no sense.
    Murder is a pre-meditated act.
    If you don’t know what that means you can see the term here
    NO-ONE, least of all you could prove that on that day a cop had decided to go out and kill someone. That kind of thinking is just crazed brother!
    Your hatred of cops is a worry!

    You know once a big bullying black kid pulled a flick knife on me and held it under my throat.
    He made me dance on tip-toes for two full minutes saying I’m a little shit! I’m a little shit! over and over until he got tired of holding the knife there. If I’d gone onto the flats of my feet his knife would have punctured my throat.
    So do I hate all black people as a result of that terrible experience????
    NO WAY!…………………
    and since then because I don’t hate black folks I’ve been open to meeting them, and met some beautiful warm people.
    Seriously dude, you need to get over this cop-hate thing – go see a counselor because you’re traumatised and over-reacting.
    See definition of traumatised here.

    Comment by Skeptik — Thu 28th May 2009 @ 10:09 pm

  63. Onya Skeptic.

    I was biting my tongue………

    I am pleased you have taken the time to explain.

    Comment by glenn — Thu 28th May 2009 @ 11:22 pm

  64. tell it to someone who hasnt been beaten up by a number of cops taking turns
    at giving the bash thats if u can find anyone that has not been abused by the
    dirty low life pigs

    Comment by brent — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 12:11 am

  65. The “dirty low life pigs” as you call them once saved my life.

    Comment by Darryl Ward — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 12:19 am

  66. Thanks Glen.
    Obviously Brent is traumatised and possibly using drugs to self medicate.
    That would explain the viscious addled thinking…..
    that’s if ‘he’ is for real and not just some psycho fem dropping in to shit stir.

    Comment by Skeptik — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 12:41 am

  67. counselor hahah for fuck sake do all you pussies

    god i love to wind you fools up

    Comment by brent — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 1:03 am

  68. Unfortunately you are both correct. I have supported many people in the criminal court. By the grace of God, never as a defendant. I have seen Police antics. Their goal seemingly to achieve a conviction, not to arrive at the truth. Witness their biased attitude in DVA cases. If you are male, ergp, you are guilty. Unfortunately you also see the low lives they deal with on a daily basis. Would any of their detractors willingly enter a gang headquarters unarmed, or even stop a car load of mobsters alone.

    They deal with incoherrent and abusive drunks to take them off our roads and enable us sober ones to freely drive and walk our streets.

    I have (As a neighbour) witnessed a raid on a house, admittedly occupied by associates of a Gang. I wittnessed them trash it, infront of children who normally live there and violently assaulting a female who lived there. Apart from her mouth, (Going to town with good anglo saxon english) I saw no need for this assault. Nobody was taken away. I saw no property removed just wanton damage and destruction. Police need our support. We must remember that beyond Name age and address we have to answer no other questions, we do not have to go on video, and we have to sign nothing. This is especially true in a DVA investigation, where they attempt to build a case based on lies.

    The saddest parts are the advent of “Community Patrols” aka “Dads Army” Witness, Manakau drive out prostitution campaign, and Martinborough, armed civilian patrols. These people occupy the watch house, have (And use for their own purposes) police computers, and attend incidents. They are untrained civilians using their powers to settle personal vendetta’s. They are not above lying in court.

    No I see their necessity, I don’t trust them, and am very wary.

    Comment by Alastair — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 8:38 am

  69. Protitution is the sexual exploitation of MEN, by women for profit.
    Sex is only worth bothering with when it is “Making Love” – i.e both parties are doing it for love.

    Comment by John Brett — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 10:39 am

  70. Yes John,
    I’ve never understood the logic of paying for something (sex) that you’re simultaneously giving away for free.
    There are words for such actions – dumb, slavish, pathetic.

    Comment by Skeptik — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 11:52 am

  71. Without sex, women would not really be needed ! It is sex that is the male’s great undoing.
    Would be really need them with their inferior physiques, personalities from hell, no company down the pub ? No No No

    Comment by Ian — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 12:12 pm

  72. As they say in Australia, if a woman didn’t have a cunt, she wouldn’t have any friends.

    Comment by pissing in the wind — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 12:33 pm

  73. 1 I don’t agree that women are un-needed. Both sexes are neccessary part of the whole. Consider the cartoon of someone sawing off a branch- whilst sitting on the branch they are sawing. (Sound like a feminist). Don’t make the same mistake.
    2 Used to be good women were highly desirable- sought after- a good woman was a prize worth the hunt- a woman knew this, and place value on herself- no free sex- you have to marry me first.
    Now- look up “MAN DRAUGHT”.
    Women have de-valued themselves so much that no man wants them.I used to help run a singles socual club which had been in existance for 20 years, I metdozens of bright, intelligent, desirable women. it folded due to NO MEN, other than a few drop-kick drunks.
    3 We have made marriage, and two-parent families such an undesirable option for men that it is no longer happenning. I have daughters, grand-daughters, neieces etc, and I feel sorry for them. Not their fault- except perhaps for the expectations thay have been given.
    4 Crusher Collins- on Boy Racers- three times on TV she mentioned “Their Mothers”- and “Their Mothers’s cars” in reference to repeat offenders, and to crushing cars. Perhaps she had inadvertantly stumbled on the solution to “boy racer” problem- NO DADS!!

    Comment by John Brett — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 12:43 pm

  74. C’mon…. be more creative. Australian men and women are not like you portray. And neither are all the Kiwis over there.

    Comment by julie — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 12:46 pm

  75. Dirty low life pigs showing there true colours
    Policeman breaking law says Police Conduct Authority

    Comment by Brent — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 2:02 pm

  76. I wonder how PC Holmes came to be prosecuted. It can’t possibly be that his Police mates prosecuted him eh Brent? Aren’t they all crooks? I prefer to think they are all people, and make mistakes just like the rest of us.. Get a grip bro.

    Comment by glenn — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 2:26 pm

  77. I ant no nigger so i ant no BRO Glenn

    Comment by brent — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 2:41 pm

  78. Just like to say sorry to all you guys for my rude comments
    I have been off my medication for a few days and i tend
    to act and say things that are quite nasty when im not in control
    Please excuse me i did not mean to act in such a way

    Comment by brent — Fri 29th May 2009 @ 3:44 pm

  79. Brent,
    So you were off your meds.
    Well sorry I mistook you for a feminist then.
    I’m glad your on a more even kilter.
    Just goes to show the kind of stuff I expect from feminists too!!

    Comment by Skeptik — Sat 30th May 2009 @ 5:04 am

  80. MP’s son accused of sexual violation

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Sun 7th June 2009 @ 1:29 pm

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