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New laws affecting men and other social moves

Filed under: Domestic Violence,General,Law & Courts — Julie @ 11:12 am Sun 28th February 2010

French men who seem likely to be violent towards their wives and female partners will be tagged and monitored under new feminist law.

The proposed measure means men who have received court orders to stay away from their partners will wear an electronic bracelet and if they break the order, police are alerted.

Parliament is also considering outlawing psychological violence. This new creation of crime has many outside parliament worried on how this will work. Supporters of the law say psychological violence turns into physical violence while lawyers and professionals in the field are nervous saying it will be impossible to say at what point verbal abuse – for instance in an argument – suddenly becomes a criminal offence.

Critics argue the psychological violence clause is unlikely to make any practical improvement to the lives of women who suffer domestic violence.


In Japan the railways have had women-only carriages since 2005. The idea has caught on in other countries and there are now gender specific carriages in Brazil, Egypt, India, Moscow and Taiwan. This was set up in Japan because it considers female commuter groping to be a serious problem especially for Japanese men who want men only carriages.

Recent disclosure of a spate of incidents where innocent men were accused of molesting female passengers has turned the national spotlight back toward commuter groping, a problem so bad most railroad companies have set up women’s only carriages during peak travel times in the mornings and late at night.

The recent arrest of an Osaka couple for trying to set up a middle-aged man by falsely accusing him of fondling a woman train traveller has large numbers of salarymen shaking in their boots at the thought of being blackmailed by crafty commuters looking for a quick buck. This has heightened calls on railroad companies to set up sanctuaries where men can travel in peace, safe in the knowledge that they won’t be accused of molestation.

Most railroad companies say they consider the issue a serious one but will not deal with the problem. In other news, Japanese women are to receive women only lavatories on planes. Up until now, toilets have been unisex.

Many women called for the airline to give them their own lavatories in a 2007 survey of customers, said ANA spokesman Justin C. Massey.

“They didn’t list any specific complaints. … It was just more a matter of general preference,” Massey added.


A father in the UK was almost arrested for taking a photo of his 4 year old son on a toy ride in a shopping centre with his mobile phone. A security guard and police officer threatened him with arrest because he couldn’t prove on the spot he was the father and not a paedophile.

There must be a lot of fathers living on eggshells in the UK.


GIRLS may be banned from wearing skirts in the UK as part of their school uniform to protect gender dilemma pupils under new laws masterminded by feminist Equality minister Harriet Harman – dubbed Harperson for her obsession with being PC. Skirts are considered to violate the rights of girls who want to be like boys.


Indian women are to pay less taxes under a new law by feminist women and child development minister Krishna Tirath.

She says, “It is a serious factor in empowering working women. After all, it is a woman’s income that directly impacts the living standard and health of her family and children’s nutritional levels.” She also says, “It, therefore, works as a productive asset for the family whether in investment or expenditure unlike men’s salary.”

What does she mean unlike men’s salary?

Women rights activists feel that while some success has been achieved through legislative action, special schemes, access to micro finance, education for the girl child and healthcare access, women continue to be discriminated against when matters of money are involved.

Currently India’s women don’t have to pay taxes on earnings up to Rs 1.95 lakh while for men, taxation starts at Rs 1.6 lakh. India’s women also pay less stamp duty on property.


  1. Tagging a man will only work if the woman is tagged too. If only he is tagged he can only be tracked against a known datum, such as the ex’s house. What if she is out somewhere where he is also?

    A friend of mine went into a cafe to buy a take-away lunch. He was unaware that his ex and his children were in there. He was in a queue waiting when his children saw him and excitedly ran over to hug him, shouting “Daddy, daddy”. The ex called the police who came and arrested him. He was fined $600.

    Comment by amfortas — Sun 28th February 2010 @ 12:16 pm

  2. French men who seem likely to be violent towards their wives and female partners will be tagged and monitored under new feminist law.

    ENDGAME – Blueprint for Global Enslavement (2hrs 20min)

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Sun 28th February 2010 @ 6:45 pm

  3. Oops! Wrong movie :p … It must’ve been that other one 😀

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Sun 28th February 2010 @ 9:21 pm

  4. Reply to amfortas

    Yes, I heard though a work college,the same situation happen to good friend of his, but it was in a supermarket where exactly the same situation happen,and he also got arrested, spent a cozy night in a police cell and appeared in court and was find $750.00…

    Again,I will repeat this,then Kiwi woman wonder why their is a ‘Man’ drought here N.Z ….
    After this Weekend I manage to catch up with a heap of Friends from all different age groups, that I haven’t seen for a while…There sentiments on Kiwi woman is… ‘Can’t be bothered,sick and tired of having to be the ‘Yes Dear’ all the time to Kiwi woman’……

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Mon 1st March 2010 @ 7:10 am

  5. Reply to A father in the UK

    Your comment Go0od Sir on ‘There must be a lot of fathers living on eggshells in the UK.’..

    And New Zealand isn’t far behind either….I will even go further with just my humble opinion…

    After my experiences,and even worse still, what my ex brother in law went through with the system concerning the power of a Kiwi Woman who can just….’Point the Finger’…. at you,with out one shred of prove and you as the Man or Father have to prove innocence…….

    I truly fear ‘Kiwi Woman’…hence I have no more involvement as in romantic sense with a Kiwi Woman anymore…’Friendship’…Yes…’Love’ …No way….!!!! and I am not the only Guy who feels like this…

    Kind regards to you Good Sir…John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Mon 1st March 2010 @ 7:45 am

  6. you mean I watched 2 hours of movie and it was the wrong one …lol!
    Naah.. I turned off after 5 mins…

    Comment by noconfidence — Mon 1st March 2010 @ 8:18 am

  7. I have heard this from many women after they have gone through their extensive and scary list of what they expect from a man… if I can’t find a man soon I will just get pregnant, and raise it on my own!!!!!

    Comment by Scott B — Mon 1st March 2010 @ 8:52 am

  8. Reply to Scott…

    ‘extensive and scary list of what they expect from a man’

    L.O.L …Yep I know exactly what you mean Scott, by your above statement.

    My single Kiwi Woman friends all have a so called ‘list’ as in what they want in a Man…And some of the so called ‘wants’ is just so unreal,as in there expectations

    …However when I say to them and ‘What does a Kiwi Man in a Kiwi Woman’..????.There answer usually as been ‘Oh,The Guys should just accept us Girl as in ‘who’ we are…..’…Hello….Pardon….????

    So when I confront them, as in a humorous way ‘So it just fine and dandy for you Kiwi Woman have list on what you want,. as in a so called ‘Man’,but whoa beside any Kiwi Man that as a list what he wants in a Kiwi Woman…Thus He is deemed to be an ‘Selfish’ and a ‘Self Centered’ Man’….Am I correct Ladies…????’

    But I Have to give credit here to some of my Kiwi Lady Friends who have honestly ‘Yep ,that pretty well sums it up..Yes….John…. We know what you are going to say… The ‘Double standards’ routine yet again and yes ‘we’ are pretty good at that, aren’t we John…??’…Which I have to laugh and have to concur with them….

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Mon 1st March 2010 @ 1:06 pm

  9. Just to mention that the psychological violence is the NORM used in New Zealand by the Family Court to serve protection order. It’s in the LAW. The woman has only to have the perception ( not the real thing) that her ‘ bastard mate’ is violent to be able to get a protection order against ‘ bastard mate’.
    They do not need to be clever to identify these psychological violences. the Woman’ refuge lawyer will write a compelling affidavit to impress the judge who will find that such statement and such is prove that the woman suffered psychological violence. and when all that fails they will have the woman’ counselor testify that the woman did not understand what is abuse until she confided to that counselor etc etc.

    Comment by tren Christchurch — Mon 1st March 2010 @ 4:47 pm

  10. With legislation now before select committee that will now attract s60 issues and keep the “violent” partner away from their kids for 3-6 months. Supervised contact only for such perpetrators of psychological violence.
    First to draw the PO weapon gets the drop on the other partner and Child Support and DPB for their trouble.

    Comment by Ms IRD Officer — Mon 1st March 2010 @ 7:59 pm

  11. I don’t talk to the women who say things like that. I just tell them what I think of them and then walk off. Whether they’re friends or not. If they are friends, they then become ex friends. I don’t wish to be around people with that attitude. It’s because of someone like them that I am in this mess. (And yes it takes two to tango, but I am sure the genuine people on here understand what I mean!)

    Comment by Scott B — Mon 1st March 2010 @ 9:25 pm

  12. S60 what is it???

    I am now going to be discussed under this ‘whatever section’ in court.

    I am so alienated from my children after 18 months of lies, judges who are unable to see that a woman can lie – and as such I will probably ignore that the court meets about matters that I should be concerned about – but really have no stomach for any more.

    I am so totally lost I longer care.

    So this is what women lawyers, feminist proponents have brought me to. I loved my daughters until my ex decided to use lies in the family court.

    Now in my mind and day to day existence I have no children and unlikely to see them again. Satre would understand.

    Boushier and his crowd need to reassess – again.

    Its come to this.

    I never want to see a family court judge again

    Comment by Bob Jarman — Fri 19th March 2010 @ 2:23 pm

  13. s60 of the Care of Children Act states that a Judge cannot allow unsupervised contact between children and a parent who has used physical or sexual violence against them or the other parent. The new bill before the house seeks to extend this to any psychological violence. So it you look her in the eye, call her a witch, pat her tuss, or punch her on the nose or any one of these violent offences you can expect to spend 3-4 months under Barnardos supervision in the zoo they call contact centres.

    Comment by Ms IRD Officer — Fri 19th March 2010 @ 6:00 pm

  14. Pretty much Ms IRD
    Of course at present all she has to do is say you have used physical or sexual violence against her. Its totally irrelevant if you have or havent.
    So I think its reasonable to assume that the new bill will also allow her to say you looked her in the eye, even if you didnt, called her a witch, she never heard you but as she was calling you all the names she could think of then it must be true you called her something. And if she says you touched her tuss then you did, and in fact it could be considered psychological violence that you would even have the nerve to protest your innocence. therefore inferring that she has told anything but the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
    We havent moved from the accusation being the proof of guilt in the family caught so S60…………..
    youre guilty.

    Comment by mits — Fri 19th March 2010 @ 6:56 pm

  15. …not to mention that should it be female assaults male (and child) then the FC will just ignore it….

    Comment by noconfidence — Fri 19th March 2010 @ 9:56 pm

  16. Ummm so have we figured out who this “Mrs IRD” person is??? Is she really with IRD and should she even be commenting?? does it jeopodise her job in any way? and should we be dobbing this person into IRD!!

    Comment by Debbie — Fri 19th March 2010 @ 11:01 pm

  17. ok Mrs IRD you seem to know a heap of stuffb (or so you think), are you getting paid overtime for your efforts or not! Are you a real person or should we be going further with your identity??

    Comment by Debbie — Fri 19th March 2010 @ 11:03 pm

  18. Hand held tape recorders work well, maybe they should be standard issue to those who claim psychological abuse.

    Comment by Angela — Sat 20th March 2010 @ 8:07 am

  19. Those who claim psychological abuse don’t need audio recorders because no evidence is required beyond their allegations, at least if they are female. But sound recorders should be standard issue to all those likely to be exposed to allegations of psychological violence, i.e. men.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Sat 20th March 2010 @ 9:19 am

  20. I am a loyal servant of the Commissioner’s. I am employed as an IRD Officer, I doubt you could jeopardise my job as I have only stated the truth and internal policy.

    Comment by Ms IRD Officer — Sat 20th March 2010 @ 5:53 pm

  21. Reply to Ms IRD Officer

    Lady,I would like to redefine your statement to the following below ….

    ‘I am a loyal ‘Feminazi’ servant of the ‘Feminazi’ Commissioners’…

    That in my humble opinion, is more of a accurate description of you, and your department….!!!!!!

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Sun 21st March 2010 @ 9:44 am

  22. How so true I to am over leaving in fear that if i dont please her or say something she doesnt like im going to have a d.v order slaped on me..
    single is looking good

    Comment by Sam — Thu 29th July 2010 @ 4:17 pm

  23. Meanwhile amidst a slew of feminist statistical mumbo jumbo washing up at the good shores of MENZ there’s this –

    The largest study on partner violence in military families was conducted by Richard Heyman of the State University of New York – Stony Brook. His survey of over 33,000 active-duty Army personnel found 4.4% of female soldiers had committed severe domestic violence in the past year, compared to only 2.5% of the men. Other studies with military personnel reach a similar conclusion: Women are as likely, if not more likely, than men to engage in partner aggression.

    I don’t know the methodology used to arrive at this conclusion, but it makes you think all the same doesn’t it?

    Comment by Skeptik — Mon 8th November 2010 @ 12:41 pm

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