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Reproductive rights

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,Child Support,Law & Courts — Vman @ 3:54 pm Wed 7th April 2010

Men have no reproductive rights. In fact they are punished and held in servitude for the reproductive choices of women. Think I am exaggerating? Think again.

Here is an American group raising awareness of this issue.

“The problems connected to unwanted pregnancies exist not because a guy has sex. Sex will always happen. The problems happen because American males simply are not aware of how dating, sex and our legal system work against them.”

This stuff should be part of the education we give boys. We could start by having volunteers give a lecture at voluntary senior classes in boys schools.


  1. A woman will decide to have a baby only if the father is exploitable.

    If she discovers that he can’t provide sufficient quantity of goods and services, she will kill the baby before or after birth, or use the child as an instrument of punishment.

    Comment by Ivan Zverkov — Thu 8th April 2010 @ 2:18 am

  2. Reply to Dave

    ….Whoa.!!!!A awesome article Dave,thank you Good Sir..And now after reading that article….Looks like ‘War’ is starting in America against this radical social engineering of ‘Femi Nazi’ Feminism…

    At long last Men and Fathers are getting some Balls back and starting to act like Men,not like Feminized Men…Good on them too…

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Thu 8th April 2010 @ 8:06 am

  3. Note to all

    Watch Fox news on this American website,on this particular subject of D.N.A testing for Child support payments where so called Fathers weren’t the Father after all,but still had to pay Child support,see the American ‘Feminists’ look of ‘Contempt’ on there faces, when this subject been openly discussed in hearing….
    Come on then, Kiwi Feminists,I know you are reading all of this…I dare to challenge you, Kiwi ‘Femi Nazi’ Feminists to justify this so called ‘Fair Child support system’ to me and to others here on the Menz forum….Justify your pitiful excuses… ‘I am the Victim’ mentally…And May the Man drought continue for you…..

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Thu 8th April 2010 @ 8:30 am

  4. Men have no reproductive rights. In fact they are punished and held in servitude for the reproductive choices of women.

    This isn’t just the case with reproductive rights. Over and again we see women making the choices and men being dumped with the responsibility for those choices.

    If women want the power of choice, it’s time they learned that responsibility and accountability are part of the package.

    Eg: Women make all the choices concerning reproduction…….women shoulder all the accountability and responsibility for that choice.

    Comment by Phoenix — Thu 8th April 2010 @ 10:03 am

  5. Yes that is very true. It seems to me that the only practical solutions for men that want children is to become solo fathers by surrogacy or else move to another culture.

    Comment by Dave — Thu 8th April 2010 @ 10:42 am

  6. Phoenix,
    Yes I agree with your highlighted statement.
    NZ womanhood knows their privileged with all manner of supports which men are too often denied.
    On the other hand I think if your careful about it you can find some really wonderful male sensitive women (women who’ve grown up fathered are best for such sensitivity!) by going abroad.

    Comment by Skeptik — Thu 8th April 2010 @ 10:54 am

  7. Reply to Skeptik

    Very correct Steptik …And that is the principle reason,why I intent to return to Thailand and live the rest of my days there…Where this Kiwi Feminism hasn’t been introduced into Thai Society where Men and Fatherhood as been ‘Demonized to Hell and back’ like it as been for the last 25 years here in N.Z…

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Thu 8th April 2010 @ 1:17 pm

  8. JD @6.

    I spent some time there myself.
    I think there were the odd (in all senses of the word) rare Thai women who’d had too much exposure to western feminism.
    Otherwise many women were quite charming.
    If I can help you with this let me know. I have connections.

    Comment by Skeptik — Thu 8th April 2010 @ 2:49 pm

  9. Reply to Skeptik

    Thank you good sir I lived and worked in Thailand for nearly two years,in the early nineties and I return there the early 2000,and fell in love again with Thailand, and still even today,I have a great and awesome group of Thai friends from all walks of Life….Funny, not once did I meet a Thai Lady that as embraced the so called this radical social engineering Feminism of Western European culture…
    I also have a good Mate that as now living in Vietnam for the last 5 years ,and as a very successful business over there,he came back at Christmas time for Family reasons for a month and I

    Comment by John Dutchie — Thu 8th April 2010 @ 3:21 pm

  10. Whoops, hit the wrong yet again

    to finish off….I caught up with him for a Dinner one night before he flew back to Vietnam ….I asked if he would come back to N.Z to live permanently ..His answer was this…’Hell no…!!!Why should I come back to N.Z..!!! To marry a Kiwi ‘Feminist’ Woman…!!!And then have a Life of pure misery,then she divorces me,proclaims in Court that I was so called ‘Abusive’… Then I will be taken to the financial cleaners like once before when I was married to a Kiwi Woman’…

    Says it all…Doesn’t it,quite nicely……!!!

    Comment by John Dutchie — Thu 8th April 2010 @ 3:31 pm

  11. Totally agreed, which is why my fiancee is from Uzbekistan. I would not even consider dating a NZ woman.

    Comment by Phoenix — Fri 9th April 2010 @ 10:01 am

  12. This handbag nonsense is just using up space. I don’t quite understand these irrelevant posts but I guess it’s some kind of automated posting thing, or someone wanting to sabotague, clog up the threads and take up space. Anyone have any knowledge about this sort of thing?

    Coincidentally though, a friend recently referred to modern western males as “manbags”, fashion accessories for women that can be used or discarded according to mood. The only difference is that, unlike handbags, manbags can continue to be exploited even after being discarded.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Tue 22nd June 2010 @ 10:32 pm

  13. Yes Hans, I concur.
    It’s just irrelevant nonsense.
    Cholesterol clogging up the arteries so to speak.
    However ‘Cheap designer’ inadvertently did one good service.
    After checking the thread again I used the link Dave supplied which I’d overlooked the first time around. A great site – Thank you Dave.

    please get rid of these stupid messages.
    We need handbags as much as we need feminists.

    Comment by Skeptik — Wed 23rd June 2010 @ 1:18 am

  14. Ah please John, Thai ladies are the most exploitative women in the world, you know that !! Well, i hope so anyway. The laws are just not anti-male here, like in the west.

    Family is everything, but that gives the Thai ladies an excuse to treat farangs like ATMs. to restribute his hard earned and saved money to their parents who have never saved anything in their lives.

    It is very difficult to find a Thai woman who is not like that here. If you are ever drawn to a bar girl , you are facing hell on earth, they will bleed you dry. You will have lots of sex here, but love …….. ah you have to pay for that too …….
    But still better than in feminised Kiwiland, i have to agree, but be careful of Thai ladies

    Comment by Kiwi in Thailand — Wed 23rd June 2010 @ 3:07 am

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