Suicide awareness and prevention presentation
I thought I’d put this up here because it’s become a big event and men’s representative Jim Bagnall is presenting something special about fathers plight and suicide and by the looks of it Murray will be video taping the event. Also, I chased up a teenager who left a comment on a post by Mike in May 2008 and then met up with the mother the article was about. She [Maria Bradshaw] is remarkable and already changes are taking place in New Zealand regarding suicide awareness.
We’d love for men and women who read this site to come along and support as well as learn some.
ORGANISATIONS are banding together in the battle against suicide, which claims more Kiwi lives per year than the road toll and you are invited to come listen to speakers sensitive to the subject and the latest unfortunate events in Papakura.
Debbie Swanwick, of the Auckland Single Parents Trust, says East Auckland has the highest rate of suicide of men aged 40-60 in the western world.
Suicide prevention group Casper and the trust are holding a public meeting to share personal stories, current practices and other options to try reduce the number of people who take their own lives.
The meeting will take place on Sunday, December 5, from 3-6pm at the Senior Citizens Hall, 8 East Street, Papakura.
Casper, which stands for Community Action on Suicide Prevention Education and Research, was co-founded by Maria Bradshaw, who has been campaigning for suicide awareness and change since the death of her son, Toran Henry, at the age of 17 in 2008.
Jim Bagnall, of Project Reunion, who has worked with more than 10,000 fathers and mothers dealing with separations over the past 12 years, will present “The Black Hole”, a place people reach prior to taking their own lives. “People naturally revert to their instinctual level where self harm or harm to others can take place”, he says. “The system to some degree is not coping and experiences can fill in the gaps”.
Other speakers include representatives of Counties Manukau Mental Health and a secondary school student who has experienced depression.
The meeting will coincide with the opening of the South Auckland division of Auckland Single Parents Trust, and will start with a performance by dance group The Geeks.
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Thanks for your initiative Julie, this is so important.
It is sad that you are approaching suicide in a negative way – the best way forward is doing and setting an example in the positive, as shown so simply and successfully by Dr. Graham Flemming, from Tumby Bay, Adelaide.
An approach to Rural Suicide by Dr Graham Fleming
The importance of a positive approach can be seen from our tongue in cheeks cuddly friend, Ms IRD Officer:
Though she walks in the Valley of Death at IRD, she is apparently immune from suicide, because she isn’t taking it seriously, she is having the most fun that you can have without laughing, she isn’t identifying with the bleeders.
The men working at IRD-CS do suffer as much suicide risk as the bleeders, because they do take it seriously and they do identify with the bleeders, even if they try not to.
But I am not criticising, as Ms IRD Officer is sharing her wisdom with us, so how could we complain? We must sort the chaff, from her wheat.
As suicides start from 5 or 6 years old, whatever we do to make our children stronger from the occasional temptation to chill out through completed suicide, we must complete the training before our children reach 5 years old!
The seeds of impulsivity are sown in the first 12 months of life, so the quality of our responding to our children, of our care for our littlest ones, is hugely important to them navigating the highs and the lows of everyday life and misunderstandings, right throughout their life. So, be there for your children, when they need you the most, not just when it might suit you. Just giving your breast freely is not sufficient, it is the quality of response to your child’s cries and needs, that later gives protection from suicide.
Much of our culture has echoes and reflections of suicide themes scattered through it. The ambiguity and contradictions alas, confuse and trip some of our children into the potholes called suicide. We need to rethink our culture and pull out these dangerous themes, where misunderstandings can scare or mislead our children into early death.
The icing on the cake, is our sometimes dishonesty, so that our children don’t trust some of the things we most want to tell them. Dishonesty isn’t always deliberate, but the reactions our children may make, are sometimes chillingly final and deliberate.
Just a little care, when the risks are highest, can make a big impact in protecting our children, even our fully grown children.
Protecting the fathers
Fighting suicide isn’t fun, but living a fun and sticky fun life is.
Professor Graham Martin tells in submission 107, about the totally unexplained suicide of a 15 year old girl and the intensity of the impacts on so many people whom she inadvertently affected:
The Impact of Adolescent Suicide — A clinical story – extract
Thank you for your beautifully written comment and the information you’ve shared.
I am somewhat excited you dropped the name Dr Graham Fleming. Hopefully your comment is seen by another here who has been telling me about this same person.
I am somewhat hurt by this remark but pleased you acknowledged the initiative. I have a feeling you may understand how difficult doing what we are doing here is and that from up high to down low (all are equal under the heavens but we grade our education etc), there’s a lot of different views on how this should be approached and it’s been challenging as well as rewarding so far.
I hope you can make it and I hope we can all work together.
This was fantastic. Someone said, “The best we’ve (single parents) done so far.” I’m still very fond of the meeting we held for fathers on zero money out West Auckland just before ‘fathering our city’ took off but still, it WAS AWESOME.
Thanks to Murray for all the advice and help with equipment. Honestly, you’re my hero for what you did.