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Guilty untill proven innocent

Filed under: General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 9:49 pm Tue 14th June 2011

WASHINGTON, June 13, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — “”¦ This is to our President. President Obama remarks often “¦ It’s “¦ been two Father’s Day years in a row where he admonished fathers, especially African American fathers, to step up to the plate. Well, I’m an ex-baseball player; almost went pro years ago”¦ so my analogy is: When the fathers step up to the plate, we get a fast ball right between the eyes. “¦I’m not a teenage Dad, I’m not a Dad who doesn’t work, I don’t have a criminal past or an anger management problem, yet my little boy is growing up without his father.”

The above quote comes from the trailer for filmmaker Janks Morton’s powerful new film, Guilty Until Proven Innocent (GUPI


  1. Excellent- I look forward to the completed doco, and the repercussions from it.

    Comment by John Brett — Wed 15th June 2011 @ 9:27 am

  2. I note that Phil Goff today lamented the ‘trial by media’ of Darren Hughes, and said that the presumption of innocence is fundamental to the justice system. Why then did his Clark government condone and extend family law to operate under ‘guilty until a man can prove his innocence’ laws? And why then does the Goff Labour party not make reform of those laws an election policy? Perhaps it’s an admission that parliament sees justice as not being applicable in family law.

    The fact is that the Domestic Violence Act allows, actually requires, the Court to impose a protection order on (usually) a man on the basis of any allegation of violence by him or fear on the part of the woman applicant. That order removes normal, important civil rights and liberties from that man and forces him, under threat of imprisonment, to attend regular periodic detention at a feminist indoctrination centre. It is then up to that man to prove to the Court that he is innocent of the allegations. The Care of Children Act also requires the Court to punish a parent and children through separating them when allegations are made against that parent, and such punishment will continue indefinitely until that parent can prove either his/her (usually his) innocence of the alleged offences or rehabilitation that has now made him/her safe. In this respect the Family Court operates just like a Parole Board whom the prisoner has to convince he will be safe if released, but in the Family Court the process is based entirely on a ‘guilty until proven innocent’ approach.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Wed 15th June 2011 @ 9:34 pm

  3. Yes Hans.
    Entirely correct commentary.
    he family ‘court’ – Child ‘protection matrix is way out of control and acting as a feminist Stasi force.
    Goff is trying to have a dollar each way with this issue too which isn’t helping matters. He should put up or shut up in my view, by which I mean make effort to change these out of control institutions or shut up. Otherwise he just comes off as looking hypocritical and weak.

    Comment by Skeptic — Thu 16th June 2011 @ 1:41 am

  4. Has anyone posted the footage of a feminist group who broke-in to a meeting of battered husbands? I’m not sure if there were any females there sticking up or supporting the men’s group. There needs to be subtitles, I can’t hear anything.

    This footage enrages me, people are/can be so steryotyped that they think that men are still oppresing women, or there is no such thing as a man who is beaten by a women. WEIRD…

    Comment by Benjamin — Thu 16th June 2011 @ 9:13 pm

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