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For those in Wellington or who can make it there on Friday, a few of us will be setting up the Ministry of Men’s Affairs in parliament grounds and raising awarenss of the Family Court review and mens/fathers’ issues around this. We hope to speak to a few relevent big wigs and perhaps a radio interview.
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Comment by Batman — Thu 9th February 2012 @ 5:10 am
I wish you all the success with it.
Whats being done in Auckland these days re demonsrating.
On another issue, if anyone comes across Jo Robertson who is a ferevent man hater, she was so abusive towards a man in manakau that she was physically attacked in court.
If anyone comes across her in a case, then simply provoke her, in a clever and measured way and she will lose her composure.
And conversely, the basic fundamental tactic in family court used by lawyers and some judges is to provoke the father into an emotional response. Try and not to take this on board, I used to write down a phrase to myself in a notebook everytime they tired this and it helped to remind me not to buy into it. Ive had judges say quite outlandish ridiculous things just to see how I would react and then switch to being reasonable again when I didnt react.
It is very difficult when ones child is involved there is a deep primal response there with anyone who cares. But do your best.
Another trick lawyers and c4cs use is to give you a request for a report ie a psych or other report, in court or just as you are about to go in to unnerve you and throw you off. They are required to give you notice so tell the judge that you have not had the notice and request the appropriate notice. Or at the very least a break to look over the documents and to gather your composure.
I once had a c4c give me the request as the judge was walking in and just as we were standing she slid it across. This, despite the fact she was supposed to give me a week to respond to this and the fact we had been sitting outside for 2 hours next to each other. Luckily the judge had to adjourn the proceedings anyway for another reason and I had a chance to get some legal advice and had the request quashed.
best of luck to all you caring loving devoted fathers out there, and mothers as well if youre coming from a good place too.
Comment by AN — Thu 16th February 2012 @ 1:40 pm
Sounds like you had a half decent judge. Others though allow the despicable act of unserviced applications and submissions that go to all the lawyers but somehow are forgotten to be sent to the father. And registrars who allow one affidavit even though it doesn’t meet their own rules and reject another because it doesn’t meet a different set of rules.
Good advice though about how they try to invoke an emotive response.
Yes; best of luck to all. Luck is about the only thing we can trust in!!!
Comment by JS — Thu 16th February 2012 @ 9:04 pm
Interesting…consultancy on family court reviews. Conflicts of interests abound and less success than anticipated. It is reassuring other more academic and less biased participants could see through the less than calm disposition and the tunnel visioned mind of the above said participant.
Comment by Andrew — Fri 17th February 2012 @ 12:25 am
Andrew (#4): Can you clarify your meaning here?
Comment by Hans Laven — Fri 17th February 2012 @ 8:54 am