MENZ Issues: news and discussion about New Zealand men, fathers, family law, divorce, courts, protests, gender politics, and male health.

MoMA’s Black Ribbon Campaign

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 12:17 pm Fri 26th October 2012

Representatives of the Ministry of Men’s Affairs have campaigned each Saturday in October handing out leaflets, badges and sensible gender politics. So far we have campaigned in Manurewa, Tauranga and K Road Auckland.

Responses from the public have mostly been very supportive with quite a few people stopping to express support or to tell us accounts of distressing suicides, false allegations or having their children’s lives wrecked under under NZ family law. As expected some people still found it surprising to hear anyone stick up for men or the idea that true gender equality requires anything other than improving women’s situation. Some men ignored us (I suspect some thought the word ‘Ministry’ meant we were a religious group), some men accompanying women said their partner would never allow them to support this cause, and some women when realizing our cause would turn their noses up in disgust, but only a couple of people responded with any overt disagreement.

One woman on K Road said she had previously served in the armed forces and took exception to my statement that men suffer almost 100% of workplace deaths in NZ year after year. She very aggressively accused me of claiming that female soldiers weren’t prepared to give their lives, which of course I hadn’t said at all. (Although I should probably have mentioned that the proof of the pudding is in the tasting, and in fact only one female has ever died in our military services and that was the medic in Afghanistan 2 months ago when a vehicle she was in detonated a roadside bomb. I don’t know how many men have died in our military since women demanded and received the right to equal conscription and pay, but 9 men have been killed in Afghanistan alone.)

The turnout to these campaign events has been disappointing. Only a few stalwarts turned up and we had not one visit (at least until after the event!) from MENZ Issues contributors or other recognized faces. Really people, if you imagine that simply complaining on web blogs is going to change anything you’re sadly mistaken! But you still have one opportunity to support the campaign with your presence at Garden Place in the middle of Hamilton city tomorrow, Saturday 27 October, between about 10am and 2pm. And of course you can also provide support with a donation to Kiwibank 38-9008-0274760-00. This will help to offset the cost of materials including these smart badges:

The Ministry of Men’s Affairs through the Black Ribbon Campaign encourages people to show they are against violence towards BOTH MEN AND WOMEN. It encourages people to show they care about men and to recognize that although feminism has commendably improved or overcome many historical female disadvantages, for men their historical disadvantages have not been addressed at all and many new layers of disadvantage have been added.

Please show your support.


  1. Thank you for the update and good works fellas.
    I’m not surprised at the lack of support.
    I find many Kiwi men to be passive when it comes to supporting each other, but you set a fine example of how to do so.
    I can’t be there with you but as you’ve added your bank account number I’ll be making a donation.

    Comment by Skeptic — Fri 26th October 2012 @ 4:08 pm

  2. If you come back to Auckland, let us know and I will be there

    Comment by Scott B — Fri 26th October 2012 @ 8:45 pm

  3. Thanks Skeptik and Scott B. We keep taking one step at a time.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Fri 26th October 2012 @ 9:52 pm

  4. We did the last of the October campaigns yesterday in Hamilton. We spent some time at the Frankton market as well as Garden Place. We handed out about 400 pamphlets. It’s incredible how many people understand and agree with the message. One female lecturer from Waikato university spoke supportively with us and bemoaned the rabid feminist misandry that was rife at that institution funded on our blood, sweat and tears.

    We plan to do the public events each October, but the Black Ribbon Campaign will continue as an ongoing thing as a response and alternative to the discriminatory White Ribbon campaign.

    Please consider supporting the Black Ribbon Campaign in any way you can.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Sun 28th October 2012 @ 10:45 am

  5. Donation done.

    Comment by Skeptic — Mon 29th October 2012 @ 1:57 am


    women bearing price of divorce??!!?!?… thoruoughly confused…

    Comment by kirannjiharr — Mon 29th October 2012 @ 5:52 pm

  7. Heres a web site which may help you get the message out there –

    Unfortunately – from what I have seen recently – this looks to be the NEW VEHICLE by which women can send out MISINFORMATION to the world, in there quest to DESTROY a mans credibility, and reputation – all based on any historical “argument” they may have had when they were together, without any requirement to include BOTH sides of a story or take any responsibility for there part in the disagreement…yes you can apparently have SMOKE without FIRE, when the putrid ACERBIC stench originates from a woman mouth.

    furthermore – they can send these messages to the world – pure character assassination – with NO requirement to base allegations on FACTS, EVIDENCE or PROVABLE TRUTH, and they can now also do so before any police investigation or court case has been allowed to take its course.

    You may all be interested in the current allegations against an Auckland Schools – Assistant Principal – who now has the odious challenge of defending his reputation against a malicious ex partners allegations – who is allowed to conjure up claims against him from over two and a half years ago – and who clearly wants to totally destroy his credibility, his reputation, his chances of future employment –

    so FATHERS BE VERY AFRAID – they now have DIRECT access to the world media to spread the poison before you even have a chance to speak with the authorities.

    To their credit I see the SCHOOLS Board of Directors has issued a public statement – outing the “BITCH”, and supporting the MAN.

    Anyone of us who has been the victim of these deliberate attempts to destroy your reputation – will understand why this is yet another sorry time for good fathers who have done nothing wrong other than want some quality time with a child.

    Comment by hornet — Tue 30th October 2012 @ 9:18 am

  8. Skeptic (#5): You mentioned that you had made a donation but nothing has appeared in the account. I hope it hasn’t gone astray in the banking system.

    Cheers, Hans

    Comment by Hans Laven — Thu 1st November 2012 @ 3:19 pm

  9. Can’t remember where it was said sorry as too many posts have been since I last looked on here but this seems like a good place to put it.

    Someone said Men are not good organisers. I say that is BS. We are the BEST organisers in the history of mankind. Anyone who says otherwise is a feminist or has been brainwashed by them.

    Comment by Scott B — Fri 2nd November 2012 @ 7:00 pm

RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URL

Leave a comment

Please note that comments which do not conform with the rules of this site are likely to be removed. They should be on-topic for the page they are on. Discussions about moderation are specifically forbidden. All spam will be deleted within a few hours and blacklisted on the stopforumspam database.

This site is cached. Comments will not appear immediately unless you are logged in. Please do not make multiple attempts.

Skip to toolbar