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Police Admit False Claims about Rugby Domestic Violence

Filed under: Domestic Violence,General,Law & Courts — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 9:55 am Thu 1st November 2012

The Ministry of Men’s Affairs recently challenged the NZ police for making a public claim that domestic violence call outs had increased during an All Blacks match. The police have finally responded acknowledging that they had not been able to find any significant link between family violence and rugby matches.

Note that the NZ Police conducted “some analyis at the request of Women’s Refuge” to see if there had been any correlation between the 2010 Super 14 rugby season and serious assaults or family violence assaults. No link was found. Women’s Refuge will be aware of this finding so any further silly claims by them disparaging good men who follow sports can fairly be challenged as deliberate falsehood.

The sergeant who forwarded the ‘Superbowl myth’ claim about NZ rugby has been told to exercise more caution in future statements, and hopefully police nationwide will also take more care not to parrot feminist false propaganda. However, the issue is a much deeper cancer in that police continue to carry into their role highly manipulated beliefs about gender, violence and other wongdoing.

For example, it’s concerning that NZ Police would be using its resources to carry out research on behalf of Women’s Refuge, a highly political and socially destructive organization. Would NZ Police carry out research at the request of any men’s organisation? I doubt it. The fact is that NZ Police are too close to Women’s Refuge and other feminist groups all over NZ but there is no relationship with men’s groups. Just like the Family Court, CYFS and other government agencies.

The Ministry of Men’s Affairs issued the following media release last weekend. It’s sad but predictable that not one news outlet picked the story up. These are the same editors and journalists who have published numerous statements made by ill-informed others claiming increases in domestic violence associated with sports matches. These media have been happy to spread untruths but show no interest in correcting them or in ensuring the public gets realistic information about domestic violence.


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27 October 2012


Police Admit Error About Rugby Domestic Violence

Police have admitted that the public statement made by a sergeant in the Central Police District claiming an increase in domestic violence on the night of an All Blacks match was wrong.

An NGO calling itself the Ministry of Men’s Affairs challenged the sergeant to provide evidence to support his media statement on 26 August that there had been an increase in domestic violence following an All Blacks match against Australia the previous night and that “police normally saw an increase in domestic violence call-outs when there were big matches”. The sergeant also claimed that domestic violence would have been higher if the All Blacks lost.

National Manager of Police Communications Superintendent Andy McGregor has now admitted there was no basis for these claims and promised that the sergeant would exercise more caution in future. A recent study conducted by the NZ Police at the request of Women’s Refuge found there was no correlation between rugby matches and family violence.

CEO for the Ministry of Men’s Affairs, Hans Laven, said the idea that domestic violence increased after men watched big sports events was based on the US Super Bowl myth. “The myth was deliberately started in 1993 by a California feminist lawyer who made up a story that there was university research showing such violence. Her unfounded claim spread like wildfire. There was even a media advisory before the next Super Bowl game warning women “Don’t remain at home with him during the game”.

Mr Laven said that although the femiinist lawyer’s claimed research was soon exposed as a lie, the myth was still believed by many people to the present day. “Studies internationally have failed to show any correlation between sports events and domestic violence aside from the effects of increased alcohol consumption during any public holiday or community event. Also, there is no evidence that domestic violence changes when the home team loses or wins. This myth is one small part of a huge amount of false information against men that has been spread during the feminist era. We would like to see organisations such as Women’s Refuge and the Ministry of Women’s Affairs face up to the damage that has been caused by such misinformation and to make some restorative moves.”

Mr Laven added “We commend NZ Police for having the integrity to admit their sergeant’s error. We respect police who frequently put their own safety at risk to protect the community and we understand the sergeant had good intentions. But like any problem domestic violence will not be solved through false beliefs about its causes.”


  1. Ask them for a formal response to this one – and see what response you get ………because this is what I was TOLD at christmas this year just gone 2011.

    We get many complaints at Christmas from Families – Fathers mostly – who are trying to get access to their children = its a really busy time for us, and we get lots of complaints from parents who cannot get access to their children as per Court orders stating the time they should be seeing them………….

    And when I asked for help enforcing a court order for my time – NO Sorry cant help you – this happens alot at christmas – you must go back to court and apply for a warrant to uplift the child – for time which is now history……

    And we wonder why dads go around and take the law into there own hands – the cops wont even help you when you are in the right……….not even after you have gone to the trouble of getting a court order – thats totally fkd.!!!!!!!!!!! and neither will CYFS – been there done that……..

    Lets get the statistics as to how many fathers go around and bash women for withholding there legal right to see there own kids – lets flush that statistic out in the open……….and sadly MEN are forced down that path because the system refuses to help them when they ask…………….even when they are in the right and trying to do the right thing.

    Comment by hornet — Thu 1st November 2012 @ 12:37 pm

  2. Ah yes been there done that.

    Me: But I have a court order.
    Police: Like we said, there is nothing we can do. Perhaps get a lawyer?
    Me: Can you at least phone her?
    Police: Oh no, we can’t do that. Plus, she has no obligation to talk to us. We suggest getting a lawyer, or just give up.


    Me: I haven’t seen my children in a long time but here are my fears for their safety… (won’t put these on the site)
    CYFS: Sorry we can’t just go around there unless we have proof or concerns for their safety.
    Me: But I just gave you all of that.
    CYFS: Sorry, we can’t help you, perhaps get a lawyer? Or just give up.


    Family Courts: Have you tried mediation? Get a lawyer. Give up.


    Me: (the usual)
    MP: Get a lwayer, sometimes you just have to give up!

    Comment by Scott B — Thu 1st November 2012 @ 2:36 pm

  3. So there we have it in a nutshell, everywhere you turn in this so called system, they tell you to give up. But there is no problem or bias in the system is there?

    Comment by Scott B — Thu 1st November 2012 @ 2:38 pm

  4. Also this is great, everytime we hear these superbowl type of myths, re-release this press release and post it in as many places as possible.

    Comment by Scott B — Thu 1st November 2012 @ 2:44 pm

  5. Good plan Hornet (#1), I look forward to seeing your letter and the response.

    And thanks for the acknowledgement Scott B (#2, 3, 4) and the good little vignettes you provide.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Thu 1st November 2012 @ 3:11 pm

  6. This is really good work from your side Hans. It looks like our “PC modern society” has replaced racism and pre-judgement (anti black, anti Maori, anti Jewish, anti Muslims etc) with sexism… which focuses mainly at Anti Masculine.

    I know that this is a hard accuse, but when in one day I face two court hearings…. with: two female judges, one female court registrar, a female lawyer of the children,a female administrative review counsel… and …. one man only (myself) while they all giggle and look at me like I am an ignorant slave, I can’t just look at the dry law. I feel sexually abused. Ah yes, I forgot one man in that I saw in that day: a 6.2ft security guy. They know whom to employ for their needs!

    Shouldn’t the regulator require that same number of male and female public employees in family court? Or maybe ask for a male spectator to attend the hearings, exactly like when a woman go to a GP and she has the right of a female nurse to be in the room?

    Comment by Divorced Man — Sat 3rd November 2012 @ 12:46 pm

  7. Good point Divorced Man. If one female litigant were in Court with everyone else being male and she described feeling uncomfortable or intimidated, this would probably be shown some understanding and a solution may be facilitated; e.g. the Court may adjourn for an hour with an invitation that the woman find a female support person to accompany her, or a female McKenzie friend may be sought. But of course if you were to express your discomfort as the only male in a Courtroom of aggressively-dressed women, you would likely be accused of being a misogynist and
    have that used against you in the proceedings.

    A related issue is that in fields dominated by men we are likely to see some positive discrimination programme to encourage more female participants, e.g. engineering students, police, army. However, when a field then becomes dominated by women, e.g. teaching and many professions, we seldom (if ever) hear any concern or see a campaign towards gender equality.

    Comment by Luther Blissett — Sat 3rd November 2012 @ 9:30 pm

  8. No woman, no cry,- no die.

    Comment by Voices back from the bush — Wed 23rd August 2017 @ 8:05 pm

  9. Oh here’s the link.

    Comment by Voices back from the bush — Wed 23rd August 2017 @ 8:06 pm

  10. About the same Male/female rate of domestic violence murders in Vermont.

    Comment by Voices back from the bush — Wed 23rd August 2017 @ 8:50 pm

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