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Men’s concerns just a distraction

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 2:33 pm Sun 3rd November 2013

This issue was discussed recently in the post Men’s Concerns Gaining Traction

The issue “portrayed’ as a man-ban might have not have gained traction but it would be naive to think it doesn’t still exist in another form; that is exactly what this article says – the intent is still there, we’ll find another way to achieve this. (It turns up as number one hot potato in the leader’s debate. It has hardly gone away from within the party)

What if the Labour Party conference turned up a policy of such genius that it totally electrified the country and we all forgot about the price of power?

Labour’s gender quota gets go-ahead

Labour has approved a gender quota that will ensure 45 per cent of its MPs are women after the next election and at least 50 per cent are women in 2017.

It would be unlikely that you could manipulate any election to the extent that an MMP result would provide a 50/50 split of male and female. It would have to be accepted that a result could swing either way to a male or female majority, but there is undoubtedly a faction in the Labour Party that would be ‘enthusiastically engineering’ a female dominate result. This debate goes further and the process is not yet complete, even within the conference.

Delegates are yet to vote on other constitutional remits that would require candidate selections to consider a range of factors including age, sexual orientation, ethnicity and geographical spread.

This is a political party that is infatuated with this glorious academic obsession of identity politics. It is MMP off the rails – politics from another planet, trundled out by a party of middle-class mad-haters riding on the coattails of a proud tradition of representation of the working class. Labour has often been a party open to invasion from various sectors, but none that will be as destructive as this departure from political sanity.

We have seen too often already, how irrelevant, issues pertaining to New Zealand men have become in our recent parliaments; we can only expect to see ourselves pushed even further down the scale of significance when a political construction of this type will concern itself with matters of personal inconvenience or preference.

These are policies best left in Rome, along with the other regrettable political distractions that occupied their politics.


  1. Could we then expect to see a ‘Gender Quota’ for school teachers?

    Comment by John Brett — Tue 5th November 2013 @ 8:17 am

  2. I’d like to see Labour fizzle out, and obtain just one seat in Parliament.
    Then let us see them fulfil their quota by finding a young-old female solo-mum disabled sexual-abuse-survivor Hindu-Muslim lesbian Maori from south Auckland to represent that single seat ….

    Comment by Pretty in Pink — Tue 5th November 2013 @ 8:37 am

  3. I’d like to see gender quota in nursing as well not to mention stay at home parents,PA’s, Receptionists, etc…

    Comment by kiranjiharr — Tue 5th November 2013 @ 12:26 pm

  4. Perhaps a quota in work-place deaths; and also in suicide ….

    Comment by Pretty in Pink — Tue 5th November 2013 @ 3:40 pm

  5. Then, when the feminists get this one sorted, they will start on a quota system that determines whether a man is suitable. What would the percentages be for white knights and ‘politically qualified’?

    That cannot be called democracy by any stretch of the imagination.

    If you where to look at any other religious society that relies on ordained promotion, then the Labour Party has us well on the way to a country run by a feminist religious-order, and of course, next thing, God would be a woman.

    You think I’m joking, don’t you?

    Comment by Downunder — Wed 6th November 2013 @ 7:11 am

  6. I am not voting for Labour I can see this will be a Feminist party putting through women friendly legislation cost of mans rights.

    Comment by Shinhee Yi — Wed 6th November 2013 @ 5:46 pm

  7. Divide and Rule – you all need to study up on – Hegelian Dialectics – especially MARXIST Dialectic – which is what is used on Society time and time again – Thesis – Antithesis – Synthesis – or more simply put – Present two extremes points of view to a problem to a society and they will always ultimately choose ( after much bickering ) the PLanned and already determined – SOLUTION ……..


    Left and right, is why you have a two party system – one presents one extreme view and the the other does the opposite – and society choses the PLANNED SOLUTION in the middle – you are directed to picking the solution already planned for you.

    Present a problem – Knowing the reaction ( we see the reaction here on this site – you all BITE the BAIT – HARD and start tearing into the opposite sex ) and the planned Solution is awaiting for you after your have destroyed each other – infighting and destroying each other – man against woman.

    As Six above – states – “Im not voting for Labor ( the extreme LEFT ) I can se this will be a Feminist party” – ONE EXTREME option……which is exactly the known reaction to on extreme view of the presented PROBLEM……then the RIGHT will offer the other extreme option to keep you bickering – then both sides – left and right – sit back and await your acceptance of the pre- planned – SOLUTION.

    Wakey wakey mums and dads – you are being kept in a deliberate state of conflict……as the song goes – CLOWNS TO THE LEFT OF ME – JOKERS TO THE RIGHT – HERE I AM STUCK IN THE MIDDLE WITH YOU…….do these lyrics make sense now??????

    Comment by hornet — Thu 7th November 2013 @ 3:28 pm

  8. To have value in my own eyes, I must have value in the eyes of others. Hegel.

    That pretty much demonstrates the centrifugal force of philosophy that is so attractive to idiots.

    Comment by Downunder — Thu 7th November 2013 @ 6:49 pm

  9. Have you noticed how – throughout history – every good person who has tried to UNITE people, who has stood up for peoples rights and made a difference – when they became too popular and were a threat to power – they were ASSASSINATED…..

    22nd November 1963 – this month is the anniversary of the Assassination of the last great PRESIDENT of the PEOPLE – J F KENNEDY

    Killed for defending the rights of the people, unifying people, fighting and defending Human rights, he wanted to dissolve the Federal reserve, he wanted an end to the Vietnam war, he was abhorrent of Spying and he called for an end to secret societies, – who use Subversion in their pursuit of POWER and MONEY, he believed in only limited use of state secrecy to protect government security – and limited governance of the people – not more like we have now….

    Listen to his speech of 1961 – a mind blowing example of a man who knew the challenges he faced – and of how different the western world may have been had he been allowed to live. Sadly the crooks – wanting power and greed – Money and control – got to him first before he could achieve his ambitions.

    Look at societies and countries which are still flourishing today – those with NO DEBT to the IMF ( Norway ) and who have UNITY and EQUALITY in their society – they are successful and the people seem happier as a result.

    These are the examples we must demand for as better NZ – a better life for the people……..REAL – fairness and equality.

    Comment by hornet — Thu 7th November 2013 @ 7:14 pm

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