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Time’s up for familycaught$ secret bullies

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,Child Support,Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — MurrayBacon @ 11:59 am Sat 13th April 2013

Times up for familycaught$ secret bullies by Judith Collins Minister of Justice

Judith Collins – some details lost in translation, some gained.
1 APRIL, 2013

Justice Minister Judith Collins has announced a raft of new proposals to hold familycaught$ bullies to account for their bullying and harmful behaviour.

‘I am pleased to have developed a set of measures that aim to stop the growing incidence of familycaught$ bullying and its devastating effects, particularly for young people.
‘Many New Zealanders share my serious concerns about this problem as the reach and impact of bullying has increased considerably in the familycaught$ age.
‘Tormenters are able to harass their targets 24 hours a day, seven days a week, wherever they go, and the trail of abuse lives on in the real world, following victims [and their children] for years.
‘These new measures send a clear message to familycaught$ bullies: Time’s up. Your behaviour is not acceptable,’ Ms Collins says.

New proposals to protect victims of familycaught$ bullying and hold perpetrators to account include:
· Creating a new civil enforcement regime that includes setting up or appointing an approved agency as the first port of call for complaints. It is round shaped and sits tidily on the floor. It must be regularly emptied by the user.
· Allowing people to take serious complaints to the District Court, which will be able to issue sanctions such as take-down orders and cease-and-desist notices. Funny complaints will still be handled by familycaught$ itself. Ten dollars has been budgetted for this purpose.
· Making it an offence to send messages and post material that is grossly offensive, indecent, obscene, menacing, threatening to family well-being or knowingly false, punishable by up to 3 months employment as a judge or a $2,000 fine.
· Creating a new offence of incitement to commit suicide, even in situations when a person does not attempt to take their own life, punishable by up to 7 years employment as a judge, indeterminate when it was done for financial gain for individual or legal worker’s industry.
· Amending the Harassment, Privacy and Human Rights Acts to ensure they are up-to-date for familycaught$ communications. In some cases, existing laws were written before familycaught$, cell phones, instant messaging devices and social networking websites became common communication channels.

Ms Collins says the proposed new approved agency will help people get the support they need to stop familycaught$ bullying quickly. [cheap rope?]
‘People needing help will get fast support including liaison with less crooked judges, website hosts and ISPs to request takedown or moderation of clearly offensive posts.
‘The agency will also be able to investigate and resolve complaints directly, with the most serious complaints being referred by the agency to the District Court which can slowly and expensively ponder possibly issuing fast take-down orders and cease-and-desist notices.
‘Our new anti- familycaught$ bullying proposals might protect victims and hold perpetrators to account. No one should ever be subject to this kind of cowardly secret attack – now with the right support and modern laws in place, victims will no longer have to suffer indecision before taking their own life,’ Ms Collins says.
A bill giving effect to the changes will be introduced to Parliament, to be passed later this year.

This bill is expected to reduce NZ suicides by 35%, that is over 150 men will be saved from recorded suicide each year. It is also expected to reduce industrial accident deaths by 30 per year and road accident deaths by 50 per year. As the positive impacts flow on to families, over a 10 year period, it is expected to reduce children’s deaths by suicide by 20 per year. Thus over 40 lives per year will be saved.

Govt backdown follows attack by family judges
By Simon Collins
5:30 AM Saturday Mar 30, 2013
Principal Family Court Judge Lawrence Ryan, on behalf of the full Family Court Bench, said a proposal to ban lawyers until the final stages of parental disputes would drive parents into more allegations of domestic violence so that they could get legal aid.

“There is an assumption that these changes will reduce the overall cost of supporting the Family Court,” the judges said. “We consider, on the contrary, that there will be no cost savings at all. Many people will avoid [mediation], the lack of legal representation will mean that fewer cases settle, more judicial time will be required and more cases will go to defended hearings.”

It is exactly these false allegations, that Principal Judge Ryan speaks of so proudly, that drive and trigger suicides in familycaught$ and contribute so much to the increased legal-worker employment in familycaught$. Case in point – Possibly Christine Bristol attempting to blackmail her ex-husband with her rape allegation. History showed that he didn’t trust caught$ in this situation. He took his children’s lives and then his own. Manipulation is always dangerous territory. So is guessing evidence when you have no evidence. Could our society aim higher than this?

The prevention of familycaught$ bullying was a flow on idea, after the proposals to prohibit cyber bullying, which are expected to save 30 young lives per year (and 10 young men too).

All of these proposals appear to serve the interests of legal-workers, up a bench and down a bench, much more than they serve the interests of citizens….
Maybe we need less legislation, of much higher quality, within a court system that works efficiently?
Then people could just get on with living enjoyable, worthwhile lives.

Minister Judith Collins is to be congratulated, for looking to improve quality of service and dramatically reduce all of the costs of familycaught$ to society.
The filibustering, denials and head in pooh approach of legal workers show that she is on the right track. Support her initiatives!

Am I obviously bitter and twisted?
Any treatment suggestions that you have for me, will be gratefully received. Please post rope and any coloured tablets.
MurrayBacon – obsolescent axe murderer.


  1. So under Judith Collins proposed legislation it will be possible to prosecute feminist academics for spreading exaggerated statistics about men like the 1 in 4 nonsense?

    Comment by Skeptic — Sat 13th April 2013 @ 2:00 pm

  2. Challenging question, I assume the answer should be yes, as long as they could all fit in the dock at once? Murray.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Sat 13th April 2013 @ 2:57 pm

  3. There is no other Judicial system in the civilised world where the accused is deemed guilty then has to prove their innocence.

    Comment by Gwahir — Sat 13th April 2013 @ 3:25 pm


    Time for us to highlight the familycaught$ bullies

    Comment by Kumar — Mon 15th April 2013 @ 12:15 pm

  5. If the cost was just exorbitant and unprofessional billing, it wouldn’t be so bad. When the cost is in parents cruelly and deliberately driven to suicide, then this is a burden no society should have to bear, let alone one or two hundred families each year.

    For the judiciary to regain public respect and trust, it will take longer than it took to destroy that trust. In my opinion, it will be necessary to cull the judiciary, partly to get the numbers down to match the workload, but more importantly to improve their mental health and fitness to perform the job.

    Arrogance, taken to extreme, is a serious mental health problem, as they said about Clayton Weatherston. Just as much of a problem, when it shows in judge’s attitudes to the public. MurrayBacon.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Tue 16th April 2013 @ 9:14 pm

  6. Meanwhile in the UK finally the Men’s Strike is starting to get mainstream coverage. Some of the issues modern day men face which were raised here years ago, but apparently not in the NZ mainstream media, are now being aired in the UKs most popular online newspaper.

    Comment by Skeptic — Sun 26th May 2013 @ 7:52 pm

  7. [email protected] is the email address of Judge the Judges website.
    Not sure if we can publish fam caugh$t biased decisions on there??
    Will they accomodate our views?

    Comment by Kumar — Mon 27th May 2013 @ 11:01 am

  8. What’s the point of spending a fortune in the Family court getting access orders which when breached by the mother are not ENFORCED and there is no punishment or consequence.

    What’s the point in spending a fortune in the family court having your family and child subjected to Psychological examination – only to find when the MOTHER is found to be causing harm to the child – NOTHING is done about it.

    What’s the point in spending a fortune in the family court to get agreements on property and Child Support for the future, when IRD walks all over this, completely IGNORES these agreements and starts a completely new set of rules for you, ignoring all the facts as to your actual income, making unilateral biased decisions which you cannot object to, stomping on all your human rights……and then take your property ( if you have any left ) to pay off these excessive demands……… NO ONE is going to agree to this corruption…………

    Thats right there is no FKN point. Fk the family court

    Comment by hornet — Mon 27th May 2013 @ 2:34 pm

  9. Absolutely right #8… Saw the same thing with the ex flouting the order and my lawyer telling me I couldn’t do anything about it. She was also emotionally abusing my son, my lawyer said it’s too hard to prove.

    My lawyer even challenged the Judge about putting clauses related to child support into the Parenting Order as IRD govern themselves. The Judge ignored her but fortunately the order was written up wrong so I had a loophole and was able to get it removed from the order completely… didn’t want them setting a precedent that might apply to other fathers after me.

    Complete waste of time and money as you said.

    Comment by Jack — Tue 28th May 2013 @ 1:16 pm

  10. The latest of several lost generations of alienated children are beginning to speak out publicly exposing the corruption that is called the family court.

    Comment by Skeptic — Wed 26th June 2013 @ 7:37 pm

  11. Fathers for Justice have a collection of reports from several children they released early last year.

    Comment by Allan Harvey — Wed 26th June 2013 @ 10:57 pm

  12. Great link Allan.
    Wonderful to see social media is catching up with the bureaucratic thugs and gradually outing them.

    Comment by Skeptic — Thu 27th June 2013 @ 2:32 am

  13. #11. Imagine if that link was about the NZ Family Court. There would be all sorts of requests and injunctions to have it removed. Actually, the video’s content applies to the NZ Family Court. Perfectly.

    Comment by golfa — Thu 27th June 2013 @ 3:13 pm

  14. The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.

    George Orwell.

    Comment by Down Under — Thu 27th June 2013 @ 3:48 pm

  15. Tick-tock-tick-tock there goes the family clock….

    Comment by Skeptic — Tue 2nd July 2013 @ 12:57 pm

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