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Trust in professionals

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,Law & Courts,Men's Health,Sex Abuse / CYF — MurrayBacon @ 12:23 pm Thu 15th October 2015

I have often commented about my views on the professionalism and skills of the peoples working in familycaught$. Although occasionally complimentary, most of my comments suggest that there might be room for improvement. My views are only those of a poor axe murderer, so I have little social credibility for my poor judgements.

I have just read a book about one particular medical misadventure. I was fairly shocked at the fanaticism of the central medical professional. However, what struck me on looking through the book a second time, was that the horrific outcome was only able to occur, through the weaknesses of the many other professionals involved.

In fact, I think that is the important conclusion. All of us make serious mistakes at some point in our lives. Nothing ventured, nuffink gained.

But what really affects our life outcomes, isn’t the number of mistakes made, but the quality of the process by which they are brought to our attention, the quality or how quickly we can sweep it all under the carpet, or turn around and constructively address these mistakes.

This depends critically on whether our friends and family will point out the impending problems, or do they stand back and let us drift into a big, dangerous hole?

This depends critically on whether our workmates, colleagues and supervisors will point out the impending problems, or do they stand back and let us drift into a big, dangerous hole?

Some professional groups run in cruelly enforced top down hierarchies and these are much more subject to weaknesses of protecting themselves, over the public interest. These people protect themselves, against the public interest, in dangerous ways. These professions run as a greasy pole, with all of the sycophants trying to climb the same greasy pole. Very few minds direct the profession, they are very vulnerable to groupthink.

Some professions run on much more egalitarian lines, they respect public comments about their profession and learn from them. These professions actively protect the public interest, with little apparent effort. These professions may stumble slightly, but rarely create major blunders. I believe that generally the public know what is going on?

I am very interested in people’s experiences with different professions, yes sex workers and even legal workers too. Have the professions as a whole worked to sort out problems, or more worked to protect their own social and financial paramount interests?

I suspect that that the professions that show the most professionalism, are those who receive not the most financial rewards?

1. This could be happenstance, but is this a systematic issue?
2. If so, then we are fools in NZ, to pay our “judges” so much more than they do in USA?
3. Which professions benefit from the intellectual contributions from all of their members and which only benefit from the intellect of the top few?
4. So what do we need to do, to protect the public interest?

MurrayBacon – poor deranged axe murderer.


  1. If you think thats bad Murray, read “Tragedy at Pike River” Incompetence and greed of the rich murdered 29!

    Comment by Alastair — Thu 15th October 2015 @ 1:20 pm

  2. Dear Alistair, I agree, but I would say think of logging industry and building industry accidents, since National neutered and cost saved in the Department of Labour.

    At a quick guess, I suspect that the before/after difference is about 3 to 500 lives, for a saving of $300 million.

    That is Sky City/National Party valuing worker’s lives at well under $1 million each. By comparison, road improvements, to save lives are funded at around $4 million per life saved. This is based on public surveys, that indirectly ask members of the public how they value lives.

    These are gambles that I am very uncomfortable about, ethically, in terms of management behaviour and in terms of democracy. (I could get carried away and bring in workplace security “reforms”, brought in by both Nabour and Lational. I see in Australia about 60% + workers still have permanent jobs, but much lower in NZ.)

    Disclosure of conflict of interest: I was poisoned by CO gas at work. I was very, very unimpressed by the time it took to have an inspector deal with the issues and the lack of teeth that they seemed to have.

    The biggest disaster at Pike River, was the prosecution failure of white collar manslaughter/murder criminals (who look awfully like politicians).


    Comment by MurrayBacon — Thu 15th October 2015 @ 1:44 pm

  3. Book Excerpt: Tragedy at Pike River Mine

    Tragedy at Pike River Mine: How and Why 29 Men Died Amazon

    by Rebecca Macfie
    On a sunny afternoon in November 2010, a massive explosion rocked the underground Pike River coal mine, deep in a mountain range in New Zealand’s South Island. More than an hour and a half later, two ashen men stumbled from the mine’s entrance to report that 29 men remained trapped inside. Samples revealed extremely high levels of carbon monoxide in the mine and the presence of fire. For five agonizing days the men’s families and friends waited and prayed until, after a second violent blast, all hope was extinguished. Tragedy at Pike River Mine is a dramatic, suspenseful account of a disaster that shook the nation-and the world. Pike River was no ordinary mine. It had been touted by the company and by government ministers as a showcase of modern mining. Shares in the company had been rapidly taken up by investors, swept away by predictions of extraordinary returns. Beneath the hype, though, lay mismanagement, mistakes and willful blindness that would cost men their lives. Based on extensive research and more than a hundred interviews, this powerful book provides chilling insights into the causes of the tragedy and puts a human face on the people who suffered.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Thu 15th October 2015 @ 1:57 pm

  4. The book I was reading was As Nature Made Him: The boy who was raised as a girl

    The reviews available on the library website don’t disclose that the story ends with suicide.

    What scares me about familycaught$, is that they don’t appear to be learning necessary and essential lessons under their own initiative. We are drifting into the future and continuing the disasters of the last 4 decades, making new family disasters each and every day (holidays excepted?).

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Thu 15th October 2015 @ 2:37 pm

  5. The book is by Rebecca Macfie. It is well worth a read.

    Comment by Alastair — Thu 15th October 2015 @ 2:46 pm

  6. It is not incompetence at all. They work to an agenda to deliberately stimulate conflict , parental alienation and distress to parents and children . These concerns are endemic of the entire system and that goes way beyond it all simply being a few who are just incompetent. If you start looking at all the concerns as being deliberate … All that parents and children suffer under the current system makes perfect sense for those making massive profits from the business of creating a CR.ISIS ..more CONFLICT…requiring more CONTROL…..over YOU!!!!!!

    Comment by Hornet — Fri 16th October 2015 @ 7:14 am

  7. Interesting thoughts Murray –

    Comment by Downunder — Fri 16th October 2015 @ 4:18 pm

  8. Thanks Downunder, deja vu – those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I hate that people let this happen, but it does… sometimes I wonder if the sheep “need” wolves?????

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Fri 16th October 2015 @ 7:57 pm

  9. Ha.

    If sheep have a good shepherd and danger approaches they will actually run and hide behind the shepherd.

    The trust that a sheep will place in a human is quite amazing.

    Does anyone who abuses trust deserve power in society?

    Comment by Downunder — Fri 16th October 2015 @ 8:10 pm

  10. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no (sorry that I am so boring?)

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Fri 16th October 2015 @ 10:03 pm

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