Sex, lies and a baby: When dads discover they aren’t the father after all
Its not so common to see news stories mainstream like the one above. You just couldn’t miss it if you were a member of parliament.
This site is about mens issues. But this problem is not just about men or even boys. Just reading some of the outcomes is harrowing for everyone involved. Daughters, sisters too have to manage when the truth comes out.
I was particularly taken from the comments made by Peet.
Some comment were about how hard it was to recover money from the fraudster. Most were about the heartache.
I can only guess why mothers to be choose fraud rather than identify the true father. I have listed some of them here.
1. The true father is a deadbeat and the mother doesn’t think he will be any good.
2. An affair while she was married. Mother decides to keep things easy for herself and simple by not telling her husband.
3. Mother truly doesn’t know. Mother makes a guess on who might be the best provider from a number of sex partners.
4. Mother discovers she is pregnant and decides to quickly sleep with another man who seems he might make a good dad.
Its not a complete list but you can add to it.
I think there might be a financial penalty when you apply for the DPB if you can’t name a dad. It doesn’t have to be the dad, just a man.
The human toll is more expensive than the money. Just so many lives destroyed.
If there was ever a reason to apply our fraud laws, mothers to be naming the wrong dad would be it. The news clip identifies some 160,000 men affected but I cant find any stories re fraud convictions.
There are some easy fixes.
DNA test for every baby, mother and father when born. A blunt tool. Perhaps make it optional if either parent is unsure.
DNA tests while mother is still pregnant. Again optional at any parents request.
I suppose the DNA test stops the child and man from being a victim. But the problem is who is going to pay for the child?
So what is Government doing about the problem? Nothing. Its a can of worms and its way to expensive to fix. The “any man will do” works because otherwise the costs go to the Government.
The idea about DNA sounds good.
This entry reminds me of a story. A female becomes pregnant as a result of a party where there was quite a lot of swooping of partners. When asked who the father was she replied “well if you eat a lot of baked beans how do you know which one made you fart?”.
Comment by Andrew McCarthy — Fri 16th June 2017 @ 3:34 pm
Would it matter if all the baked beans came out of the same tin?
Comment by Downunder — Fri 16th June 2017 @ 3:38 pm
If the roles we reversed and men created birth certificates and we got it wrong.
We would be labeled what these women really are.
Sex offenders.
Paternity testing would be cheap done in a bulk contract.
Farmers do tests for $30.
So approx $4 million a year for all children and alleged fathers each year.
A tiny fraction of the hundreds of millions the government spends persecuting men.
Who picks up the tab?
Don’t be silly.
The mother knows who the real father is if her predatory guess fails.
Other reasons for this crime.
Got pregnant but wanted the relationship to continue until I qualified to screw him over for half his assets.
Got pregnant to a child and used the other male as a cover story.
Wanted to ruin his life so got him so drunk that he doesn’t know we didn’t even have sex. Just let his wife know.
Might get arrested, well no I won’t but my brother will if people find out, so your a daddy part time boyfriend.
Real fathers a great guy and I’m a drugged up known to the police loser. Damn, I want the baby so I can be on the DPB and he would get custody. Damn, I can screw this other guy over and get something out of it.
Oh no, secretly working as a prostitute and got pregnant to a client. Guess hubby will be surprised.
Hubby is a great provider but no f**king way am I having his children. Want 2 girls and a boy.
Joined the Labor party. Passed the prerequisite test.
Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 16th June 2017 @ 7:15 pm
Now this is just hilarious.
Question.
Why did the Minister of Justice tell the police not to investigate issues of paternity of children?
Any conflicts of interest Ministers?
Unpaid child support?
Walked away or abandoned any children’s?
Hell.
I’m starting to sound like a feminist.
“The pair first met at a party, she said.”
Nothing wrong with meeting at a party.
“Mayes told the Herald on Sunday the relationship initially ended when she found out she was pregnant.”
Well there’s something seriously wrong with that.
Clearly pregnancy without consent of some form.
“I was going to have him [Antony] adopted but there was no home available,” she said.
“So I kept him”.
What? No people wanting to adopt?
They were taking babies of mothers back then with plenty of homes, weren’t they?
I’ve spoken previously that mothers who lie about who the father is, or don’t put a fathers name on the certificate, that despite those things they still know who the father is.
No matter how bullshit there story sounds.
“Banks and Mayes continued seeing each other “on and off” for two years after Antony was born, she added.”
Sounds like she knows who the father is.
“For many years Shaw grew up believing a Chinese man named Harry, a former boyfriend of his mother’s, was his father. He was brought up by Mayes and her husband, Tony.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11878318
How long of a list of things has she done wrong.
None of what’s taking place now would be if she told the truth from the beginning.
Then again maybe we should be thanking her.
For not forcing a male to take responsibility for a child he gave no consent to have.
It does, if true put a shadow over his reputation for honesty.
Something that doesn’t help when examining recent cases or political events.
Let alone the thousands of rubbish birth certificates created while he was minister of Police.
Thousands of fatherless children.
Thousands of childless fathers.
Thousands of children not knowing there own brothers and sisters.
Cousins, uncles and aunties.
Grandparents.
Paternity test the politicians?
Dont they exist at a higher standard of morals than us, simple citizens.
Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 22nd June 2017 @ 10:50 pm
Interesting case.
Notice the logic the judge used to examine if the female is responsible for the allegation.
She knew he was probably not the father but for her own benefit decided to name the victim as being the father anyway.
Also the doctors agreed the females behaviour caused significant psychological harm.
http://australianpaternityfraud.org/Paternity_Fraud_Judgement_County_Court_Liam_Magill_v_Meredith-PAT-Magill.aspx
Comment by DJ Ward — Mon 3rd July 2017 @ 11:04 am
How would feel when at the birth of your second child the mid-wife tells you only the mother knows who the father is.
For 16 years I’ve wondered if either of my children are mine.
Take a paternity test yeah right $500+ for test ×2
For 16 years I’ve raised these kids as my own what a kick in the guts to find out their not mine.
Dilema Do you inform the mother of the results-what about the kids? Sorry kids mums a s**t slept around on her husband & got pregnant not once but twice.
What about child support would you get it paid back.
Comment by John — Wed 19th July 2017 @ 1:49 pm
The first step prior to the DNA rest is to the blood test as this reveals some of paternity fraud. Your know yours the find out what the child’s are. Look up the table on Google.
Paternity fraud is a cruel and evil act that needs to be stamped out.
Compulsory testing a birth is the only answer.
As you can imagine this issue is totally ignored by the vast majority of politicians and explained away by judges and feminists as being in the best interests of the child and is apparently very rare despite 1/10 of children being victims.
Comment by DJ Ward — Wed 19th July 2017 @ 3:05 pm
This is about as stupid as it gets.
Obviously USA due to religion has stuck to archaic ways of addressing this issue.
Sadly basic concepts like the principles of natural justice don’t apply when stealing money from men.
Or when parasite lawyers can clip the ticket.
Got a comment in the comments section as well.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/costs/texas-man-ordered-to-pay-82000-in-child-support-for-kid-who-isnt-his/news-story/25ee98fdf3c49bbbc0404aaddb4a3438
Comment by DJ Ward — Mon 24th July 2017 @ 10:46 pm
DJ Ward @ 8: This is a particularly obnoxious example of the confused and corrupt basis of so-called ‘child support’ in most western countries. Injustices abound, almost all exploiting men.
Comment by Man X Norton — Tue 25th July 2017 @ 12:24 am
Interesting article.
Great story of perseverance.
Slowly but surely paternity fraud is going to exposed as the epidemic that it is.
Sorry, its misattributed paternity, females could never be dishonest on purpose.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/95196691/a-dna-test-revealed-a-mystery-who-was-she
Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 28th July 2017 @ 6:00 pm