MENZ Issues: news and discussion about New Zealand men, fathers, family law, divorce, courts, protests, gender politics, and male health.


Filed under: Domestic Violence,General,Law & Courts — mama @ 11:04 pm Mon 3rd September 2018

I THINK NOT….There is far toooo much to say, and some of you guys, have seen and said sooo much.


Please do not treat all Men as violent, they are Fathers, Brothers, Sons, Uncles, Tax Payers and People.

Please be eloquent in your approach to a family situation and uphold the respect and virtue of that family, especially when children are involved.

Please understand that life has become very challenging and that the cost of living to mention one challenge is putting great pressure upon families all over our fair country.

Please let your reforms be for the family, for the children, for they are our future.

Please do not take the easy way out.


  1. What a great subject.
    Having seen and heard so much that one is speechless.

    I can say my look at science has been productive.
    I have found the error that has poisoned thinking.
    I can now define God with laws of science.

    Anyway a more interesting subject.
    The Family Court.
    Destroyer of hope.
    Can they not see they judge when they cannot.
    He said, and she said.
    That they judge the even contest.
    That is not the truth.
    The truth cannot be judged.
    There is only one truth.
    It is either the truth, or it be something else.
    That is why they hated Jesus, and the litigators murdered him.
    He knew there secret, yet they knew not his.
    They create an escape from it, like they falsely have it.
    Best interest of the child they say.
    Hypocrite I say.
    It is nothing but the desire for conflict.
    With conflict they make money.
    What better way than to steal what is most precious.
    Forcing its victims to fight, more and more.
    Nothing has changed in 2000 years.
    Jesus said the same while discussing divorce.
    Do not judge the petty reality of life.

    Did they not create there own law when they murdered Jesus.
    That the false accusers walk free.
    That the innocent shall be punished.
    Slave I say.
    Be certain of this.
    He who hates criticism the most.
    Be the human judge.

    It is government that created this mess.
    Most judges are good and not bad.
    They desire to be good but are human.
    It is the human desires of some that poison the many.
    The government created dependency as a solution to a problem.
    It has grown like cancer.
    How then is the he said, she said judged.
    If the judge gives equality do both get dependency.
    It cannot happen.
    Slave I say.
    Men must be the slave to support dependency.
    They created the escape.
    Best interest of the child.
    And judgement when they should not be judged.

    I see it now.
    The litigators promise hope.
    And reap the rewards.
    The government says all is well.
    When it has cancer.
    Money is plentiful, and ever growing.
    While humans carry the depression.
    Can you not see.
    Humans did not listen.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 4th December 2020 @ 8:51 pm

  2. I think DJ, that there are humans and there are humanists,, humans are blunt and sharp at the same time and humanists just hope they , their fellow human, can be humanist too some day.
    …unfortunately to hope is never going to be enough to make a leap of faith or change in thinking when considering one another in the sticky ugly f…ed up family law, sticky with money and ugly in denying the family is what it should all be about.

    Comment by mama — Sat 5th December 2020 @ 10:40 am

  3. @mama above.

    Agree totally.
    Faith is a scary word for me.
    I grew up and lived without religion.
    I put science first and always have.
    Still don’t believe in miracles.
    An argument is irrelevant to ones faith.
    Faith however can be destroyed by the argument.
    Same as any other position, even the scientists.

    We are a product of what we see, hear, feel.
    What we are taught, or learn, or are exposed too.
    A baby born in a house with a faith will likely have that faith.
    The search for truth happens in all homes of all faiths.
    Including homes of those who have no faith.
    There remains only one truth.
    Many faiths.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Sat 5th December 2020 @ 5:52 pm

  4. Miracles.
    I have to learn to stop being in denial.
    Things have happened, I have heard, I have seen.
    That I can explain but the statistics say they are miracles.

    I have had the most amazing moments in time.
    All of them guide me, so I can accept me.

    I was with Adam, my brother.
    My 40 days in the desert was happening (had to do it twice)
    We were driving home on the lake road.
    Adam tried to use a lighter and it sparked but didn’t light.
    Then in the distance above the river was the most amazing lightning.
    A sheet of lightning kilometres long.
    “Adam it was you, do it again, you will see”
    He looked at me like I was crazy.
    But he went to light the lighter again.
    It sparked but didn’t light.
    Then in the distance above the river was the most amazing lightning.
    A sheet of lightning kilometres long.
    “See Adam it was you, you did it, do it again and you will see”
    He was shocked, and was looking at the lighter as if it was the lighter.
    So he went to light the lighter again.
    It sparked but didn’t light.
    Then in the distance above the river was the most amazing lightning.
    A sheet of lightning kilometres long.
    No further words were spoken as we went home.

    So statistically lightning can happen at the same time someone lights a lighter. The statistics of what happened, what I saw, what I heard, however become a statistical miracle.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 11th December 2020 @ 12:41 pm

  5. I have thought about how evolution works.
    How one could go from 23 to 24.
    As in humans, vs bonobo and chimpanzees.

    So this.

    The dwarf giraffes could breed if they were born near each other.
    And one was a female and one male.

    So then other possibility’s exist.
    What if a person had an extra pair.
    And had sex with a person with the same extra pair.
    Would the children not be viable?

    So logic dictates bonobos and chimpanzees evolved from us.
    Unless we evolved in the other direction.
    What if a person had one less pair.
    And had sex with a person with the same missing pair.
    Would the children not be viable?

    The flaw in the argument is the children.
    They to need to find the same partners.
    In effect creating a new species.
    Different from bonobos and chimpanzees.

    The odds exist of these things happening.
    I have looked at the numbers.
    Once you add in unknown extinctions.
    5 to 7 million years is not unreasonable.
    From our beginning.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 7th January 2021 @ 7:45 pm

RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URL

Leave a comment

Please note that comments which do not conform with the rules of this site are likely to be removed. They should be on-topic for the page they are on. Discussions about moderation are specifically forbidden. All spam will be deleted within a few hours and blacklisted on the stopforumspam database.

This site is cached. Comments will not appear immediately unless you are logged in. Please do not make multiple attempts.

Skip to toolbar