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Tort against the family court

Filed under: Law & Courts — Zane @ 11:56 pm Tue 28th August 2018

G’day Menzies,

Anyone here have ever filed a tort against the family court / The Attorney-General for loss and damage in the supreme court? Or if any smart blokes here who ( think out of the box) want to share some knowledge have been victimized by the flawed FC ? I am planning to file a tort against the crown /The Attorney-General and self-represented. Please let me know if smart blokes here who got a case and keen to do it collectively ! The purpose is not only for winning but to raise the awareness and let them know its not right !

I personally, have an aged complex case with proven parental alienation, kids brainwashing and programming, abuse of court process, proven false allegations and all done by the vindictive ex. resulted in damaged father and children. The ex ended with a slap on her hand ” how dare you do this” and the judge recommended on her counseling.

I have an evidence of the detrimental loss and damage caused due to the courts lengthy and numerous prolonged proceedings and negligence of more than 5 judges who were involved in my case.

Please let me know if anyone is keen or has knowledge on how to proceed !

Negligence: The Duty of Care
Negligence: Particular Categories of Duty
Negligence: Breach of Duty
Negligence: Breach of Statutory Duty


  1. Justice is what it is when it’s got a black hole of some description to rely on;

    We’re the first New Zealand media to call. You could read that two ways – maybe New Zealand is immune to the growing global disquiet about the reliability of forensic science. Of 350 wrongfully convicted Americans exonerated by DNA, 45 per cent had unvalidated or improper forensics as a contributing cause, according to The Innocence Project. Of those, 20 were sentenced to death.

    Or maybe we’re only now catching up.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Wed 29th August 2018 @ 7:38 am

  2. Mr Jay Zane,,,, Man,, I cant help or advise as I am drowning in this very situation this moment and for the past hellish months/years.

    My son met with an unfortunate accident years ago when he met this woman, they had a kid and now the child is being used to take him down.

    I can not even believe some one could do this to a child, except that I know this person and am forced to believe it.

    Comment by mama — Wed 29th August 2018 @ 9:50 am

  3. I have a reporter wanting someone with a current court case that is stuck in the system to speak with.
    Flick me an e-mail with brief (Please I mean brief) case details and your full contact details allan dot harvey at

    Comment by Allan Harvey — Wed 29th August 2018 @ 10:20 am

  4. I hope you get a good response Allan.

    You will recall that these interviews are best conducted in a controlled environment.

    We have already learned how to keep journalism honest.

    Comment by Downunder — Wed 29th August 2018 @ 10:50 am

  5. man does, woman cries..I am crying at the thought someone can hear our story, people, even the closest of people get weird around false allegations.

    To Jay,,, it is gutting to hear that even when a vindictive ex is held to account, no doubt after years of creating havoc and trauma, walks away with a bit of counselling,,,shame shame shame on the system.

    Comment by mama — Wed 29th August 2018 @ 12:12 pm

  6. since when was perjury , wasting police time, and coercion of a minor not worth investigation.

    Comment by mama — Wed 29th August 2018 @ 1:01 pm

  7. The relationship between officers of the court is not the same in Criminal Law and Civil Law.

    Comment by Downunder — Wed 29th August 2018 @ 1:46 pm

  8. Take them on, go hard.
    Remember this;
    If you are broke and have nothing to loose you are the worst loose cannon for them to have to handle because you have nothing to loose.

    Cost awards are used to silence you and your application.
    Crown Law are used to scare you with the bottomless pitt of funding and the threat of a cost award against you.

    Get it?
    Justice may well be predetermined by the “Club”.
    Various “absurd off subject justifications for obscure judicial directions” may well be just that.

    Judges know that the only person watching their behavior is the carefully selected Judicial Conduct Commissioner and with a “senior club member” in that role the judiciary may well just make directions in secrecy, make up the law as they go, avoid the law as they go. In NZ we are reassured by politicians that this doesn’t happen and we have Transparency International to help. We have the law Society to ensure that all lawyers are honest and adhere to the rules.

    Clearly we are lucky to have had the opportunity to believe or not believe in the tooth fairy.

    Comment by Brad — Wed 29th August 2018 @ 9:57 pm

  9. Really like the idea of TRANSPARENCY INTERNATIONAL RESCUE,, could be one of those NZ firster things we are so famous for.

    Comment by mama — Wed 29th August 2018 @ 10:14 pm

  10. I got a law degree from university many years ago. I never practiced but something I remember is that you cannot sue a judge. And you cannot sue the crown over a judge’s decision. I’m not 100% sure but I’m pretty sure. Sorry about that.

    Comment by Neil — Thu 30th August 2018 @ 4:46 am

  11. Sorry just to be clear, you cannot sue a judge over a decision in court. Of course you can sue a judge for a personal matter if he smashes your car or something etc. but if you lose in court or you’re not happy about it you cannot sue the court.

    Comment by Neil — Thu 30th August 2018 @ 4:48 am

  12. @Niel

    I think a case in the Supreme Court ignores all those rules. It is the last layer of Justice. Without being open to any case then corruption can occur. Maybe he is not suing the judge but the Crown for allowing the process that causes and enables the abuse. That the Crown has no checks and balances to address corruption. That the Crown turns a blind eye to corruption. That when discovered that there is no redress for corruption. That there is no punishment for corruption. That people are profiting from corruption. That the Crown ignores offending, such as false statements under oath, to enable that corruption. That the endless complaints, and submissions on that corruption are ignored.

    That serous harm is done to the victim of the corrupt acts. The Judge being a mechanism of the Crown.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 30th August 2018 @ 9:13 am

  13. So how is it that after an admin review where ex-has been caught out non declaring income for 2 years of assesments she is let off scott free not having to pay back as she would be “unfairly disadvantaged” but the fact that due to her lies i have been overpaying is fair?????? so do i get a rebate…..not on your cotton socks gentlemen

    Comment by tc — Thu 30th August 2018 @ 12:39 pm

  14. Aside from that… allows my daughter to move out at 16 ( with a boyfriend) and does not advise me or ird…..funny that but keeps on collecting childsupport for her

    Comment by tc — Thu 30th August 2018 @ 12:42 pm

  15. So, #NZ is corruption free.

    These bitches are effectively temporary judges to take the workload off the court.

    What’s that say for the integrity of our Family Court and Law Society.

    When there’s money involved there’s money involved funny how it always ends up in their pockets.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Thu 30th August 2018 @ 1:00 pm

  16. Yep, corruption free… what a wonderful world….

    as long as you know how to join the corruption train and have the much required lack of virtue to do so,, GOD SAVE THE CHILDREN!!!!!

    Comment by mama — Thu 30th August 2018 @ 1:07 pm

  17. Allan Harvey and anyone who’s reading.

    I have had till recently a case in the ‘HC’ range of FC in NZ which maybe in itself or with another or two could blow the thatched roof of our unstable FC processes and system.

    It would need I believe a far greater commitment(herculean) than I’d already given my children over the last 6.5yrs. We’ve been rolled, bowled and arseholed through the FC just to be one of two parent’s my children ‘wanted’! All at my children’s future expense of coarse!

    I had kept away from men’s groups and media or appeals to try and not be caught up in the negative stigma the court protray’s when parents reach out to find support in those median’s.

    The great parents, children and grand parents who have/are being failed, need to stop doing this alone. Thus being identified in the process as independent ‘angry failed ‘men or women’

    This makes it easier for legal systems to chop us down… independently!

    But if ‘society’ faced this with the realisation that it happens to great parents and families of all genders and understood the damage done to the fabric of society and community, then we would have greater power to lobby for independent thinking and potentially a chance for independent review of process, truth and how to develop and establish a new program designed to keep families together after separation.

    My family and I have suffered, one of many and many.

    Lost parents, children and family are the result and PAS is real.

    We need robust laws and accountability of the many forms of fraud played out under the protection of the family court process.

    The process has also failed the great people within it.

    But of coarse, Don’t worry about or listen to me as I’m just another failer of a parent who has lost his parenthood and moaning.. and forget my children cause they’ve only lost their childhood and a positive parent..

    Our family court is making 50% of parents criminals.. not 100% of parents responsible.

    Happy New Year!

    Comment by DB — Sat 2nd February 2019 @ 12:24 pm

  18. DB (Determined Bastard) Aren’t we all?

    Comment by Downunder — Sat 2nd February 2019 @ 6:05 pm

  19. It’s a sad sad situation,
    and it’s gettin more and more absurd..Sorry seems to be the hardest word,,,1976.Elton John.

    #17,,Dear DB,,, I know your frustrations, I am the grandmother in our case but the effects run through my entire family of course, you will find on here similar stories.
    No one wins and what we are doing to the kids only time will tell, so there are no guarantees.

    All I know is that the preventative approach to the worst cases of family violence or infact now any smidgeon or whisper of violence and indeed now even the family arguement has got its tenticles into all of us.

    Comment by mama — Mon 4th February 2019 @ 11:11 am

  20. Hi there,
    Could you please, let me know was it successful to use the Tort against the Family Court?
    I am absolutely horrified by the way how I was treated in the Family Court. By the way, i am woman that was represented myself and poor Ex-husband which was “victim” had two top lawyers with him, representing his lies in the Family Court. I was badly financially penalized for been Loan to cheated Ex-husband.

    I see from this website that we must create Legal Party to be able to represent public interest and stood up for our Rights independently with out lawyers in the Court Room. We must have absolutely Rights as a public to have access to Hearing and support each other. Court and Judges Must be Fair!
    Natural Justice, Natural Law must be above the Judges.

    Lets do it together.

    We can pick the name for new party for Registration, like for example National Trust NZ!

    Anybody interested to stand up for our Rights and protect others to drown down in similar situation to ours.
    I must admit my hardship was purposely created by Ex-husband to break me down and accept unlawful, discriminating and disadvantaged offers.

    I understood that some people already committed suicide, we Must protect our-self and others from Cruel decisions makers.

    Judges Must be accountable for wrong decisions.


    Comment by YULIYA — Wed 12th February 2020 @ 4:28 am

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