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Teenage Boys

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:40 pm Fri 10th September 2021

Interesting research published about teenage boys.

Teenage boys more at risk from vaccines than Covid

You don’t see very much of that these days, do you?


  1. Research is hard to find.
    It’s like an accident, when it’s published.

    Hidden in the details.

    ‘The biggest insight is the enormous gender divide: the centre-left (Labour/Greens) are 42% ahead with women, but 7% behind with men,” Williams wrote.
    “This makes it very clear that there will only be a change of Government if opposition parties can attract a bigger share of female voters.”

    So men don’t count obviously.
    Why are they behind, with men.
    If the left attracted more male vote.
    Labour could govern alone.

    If the opposition made a 42% gain of men.
    Could they not govern, together.
    Attracting more male vote, is easy.
    Just having a policy, would be a bonus.

    How could you bribe women more.
    With party policy.
    It is the only policy, already.
    The only voter, that counts.


    Prime Minister on TV most nights.
    A Likeable personality.
    Not much going wrong, politics wise.
    Easy to see why she is winning.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Wed 15th September 2021 @ 7:13 pm

  2. For anyone like me who could not be bothered registering for the Telegraph to read this story, there is a similar one in the Guardian:
    Covid poses higher risk of myocarditis than vaccine in male teens – US study

    There is a lot more info in this article:
    COVID-19 and balancing the risks: The vaccine or the virus
    which concludes:

    “the evidence clearly shows that based on current knowledge, vaccinating people over the age of 12-years is still significantly safer than leaving them vulnerable to the virus.”

    Comment by JohnPotter — Fri 17th September 2021 @ 5:31 pm

  3. Got my second shot today.
    Also had a conversation with an unvaccinated person.
    Who had clearly no idea, about reality.
    Thinking it is better to not be vaccinated.
    That they would not catch it.
    They know nobody who has had it.
    It’s a myth.
    It only effects, certain people.
    Endless, false arguments.

    There is clearly something wrong with information.
    If someone can think so many wrong things.
    They must hear more false things than true things.
    Some better fact providing adverts, are needed.
    Otherwise our vaccinated rate will stay low.

    There is bound to be some gendered outcomes, from infection.
    Men and women are not identical medically.
    Hormones, size, etc.
    Not that I’ve heard anything, factual on outcomes.
    Are men more likely to die.
    Or are women more likely to die.
    Gender specific long COVID conditions, also.
    No information, makes decisions, arguments harder.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 17th September 2021 @ 6:37 pm

  4. Reading the article it appears to me that it is correctly assumed that the risks are greater for teenage boys than girls.

    When I see something like this:

    The overwhelming majority of myocarditis appears after the second dose of vaccine, so offering single shots could protect children while reducing their risk of the side effect even further.

    We can ask ourselves, is one dose enough to produce the desired effect in that age group?

    Comment by Evan Myers — Fri 17th September 2021 @ 7:50 pm

  5. #4 Evan

    Yes it does show that side effect is more likely for males.
    So in that way a gender issue.
    But he also shows, recovery is nearly always.
    For the that side effect illness, of the vaccine.

    He also points out everything in medicine has risks, and benefits.
    So there may be a point when not having the second dose, has no benefit.
    Statistically, where the two lines cross.
    It may not cross.
    Even a newborn, having more benefits, than risks.

    He postulates on the information he has.
    And concludes overall, yes to vaccination.
    The best part for to me.
    His spotting misinformation list.

    He also says we will all get it eventually.
    From an American perspective.
    He also obviously doesn’t like Trump.
    The propaganda on that subject is astonishing.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 17th September 2021 @ 10:58 pm

  6. The core of medicine is balancing risk and benefit. It’s a debatable question at exactly what age the benefits of vaccination exceed the risks, and the answer to this question will evolve as the pandemic evolves.

    Comment by Downunder — Sat 18th September 2021 @ 7:20 am

  7. This article gives an indication of the ongoing assessments that are being discussed overseas ahead of our experience.

    An FDA Panel Says Only High-Risk Americans And Those 65+ Should Get COVID Boosters

    Comment by Evan Myers — Sat 18th September 2021 @ 8:47 am

  8. This is a different issue – “booster” refers to a third shot.
    I will get one if it becomes available, because it’s now over three months since my first.

    Comment by JohnPotter — Sat 18th September 2021 @ 11:25 am

  9. Reading the recent Israeli study, they indicated that the decline of the jab was so quick that by 7 months you should consider yourself unvaccinated.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Sat 18th September 2021 @ 11:48 am

  10. In the BMJ last week:
    Covid-19: Study that claimed boys are at increased risk of myocarditis after vaccination is deeply flawed, say critics

    However, the study has been widely criticised for mining data from an inappropriate source to deliver an antivaccine message, despite warnings against such data uses.
    The retrospective study, which has not yet been peer reviewed…


    In June the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s safety committee said there was a “likely association” between the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna covid vaccines and myocarditis and pericarditis in some young adults, but the US Department of Health and Human Services and other agencies emphasised that the side effect was “extremely rare” and that most cases were mild.

    Comment by JohnPotter — Sun 19th September 2021 @ 5:01 pm

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