Bradford Bill
I remain very concerned that Bradford’s bill is being touted as an ‘anti-smacking’. It is not that at all. This bill will outlaw ‘all’ forms of violence toward children which, on face-value, seems like a damned good idea.
However, what is completely missing throughout is a definition of violence.
Over the years, at this site, we have all read reports from men who have been deemed violent for little more than a look or a huff.
The power this bill will give to the small group of CYF mad-persons amongst the sane CYF workers, to wreck even more families, is beyond imagination.
This small group of CYF mad-persons, which from what I have observed on CYFWATCH, is limited to about 100 out of some 1500 otherwise decent social workers, will have a field-day with this new legislation if it passed.
These social misfits will be able to remove children and bust up more families with even less substance for reason than they are required to have now….and even now it ain’t very much.
This bill must be stopped.
Personally, I have never had to do much more than give my kids the ‘evil-eye’ to get them to understand that some behaviours were unacceptable….but then I do really good line in ‘evil-eye’, even though my kids learned quickly that it was an act.
But I find it perfectly acceptable to force a child away from danger, and although I don’t actually understand why some children need a smack, I accept a mild jobbie to a hand as okay when parental skills, or whatever influence is working to muddle the amazing results returned from mutual love and respect between adult and child fails.
But as soon as that light slap turns into a thwack, then my red-lights turn on. Countless now are the times I have stopped to ask a ‘parent’ why they just hit (not slapped, but hit) a small child, or have remonstrated with a small child with language fitted only for the gutter, and had the pleasure of seeing utterly perplexity on the face of the hitter, followed by a violent response.
But, so far I have managed to talk my way past the inevitable angst of a challenged ‘parent’ and been rewarded with an attenuation of vitriol.
Don’t get me wrong here. They haven’t all stopped to consider the error of their ways and thanked me for interceding, but the F-words and C-words (all adjectives used to describe me, in front of the children concerned) have slowly died away to mumbles and the odd ‘bugger’.
The only people (and I use the word loosely) who have the wish and ability to enforce the ‘letter’ of the Bradford Bill , are those few utterly mad CYF workers mentioned ealier herein. But the power it will deliver into their deranged hands is incomprehensible.
Real anti-violence is not a government issue, it is a family and social issue. So long as families refuse to do nothing it will continue. So long as folk, unlike me, who refuse to intercede, it will continue.
But the potential for family violence which is being delivered into the hands of the fractous few is beyond imagination.
David
David,
Whats even worse is Bradford is being used by HELEN to bring about absolute power for the STATE to destroy ALL of our **Whole-NATURAL-Biological-FAMILIES**
Whats even worse is that most can’t see it
We will entre full blown Femi-Fascist-Socialist State like never before in Mans history.
Right here in Godzone.
The many arms of STATE driven destruction of our FAMILIES are already in place; FC, CS, WINZ ands as you say CYFS. Let alone the power of the local Femi-Fascists in local body politics, networks and Churches.
Patiently built over many generations mainly by, naieve, ignorant, blind do good MP’s (Turner and Dunne being prime examples) who have been coned as much if not more than we the grass root Kiwi’s.
This BILL will increase ALL their power should it pass
God forbid
Onward – Jim
http://www.HandsOnEqualParent.org.nz
Comment by Jim Bailey — Tue 27th February 2007 @ 12:13 am
That malign bush pig Badford and her feminazi cohorts want every father in this country in prison !! This bill is yet another lever for the bias system to smack down dads . A Detective senior with integrity recently said to me,” that it is going to be a fucking nightmare for police .” It’s time to round up these feminazi whores and girlymen , give them all lobotomy’s and lock them down for life in a lunatic asylum !!!
Comment by dad4justice — Tue 27th February 2007 @ 7:39 am
Pete, there is nothing worse than being on the receiving end of the spite and hatred of feminist policy, but you need to rise above talking the way they think.
Comment by Bevan Berg — Tue 27th February 2007 @ 10:41 am
OK point taken Bevan, however 80% of this nation is against the bill, so why then should a vile minority have there way again? This bill will make criminals of many good dads much to the pleasure of the sadist feminazi’s. Even a parent who removes a child to time out will become a criminal under this bill. Politicians are elected to represent the status quo? Four of the five countries with the lowest child-abuse rates allow smacking, however the utopian freak Badford fails to identify poverty, stress, family breakdown and drug and alcohol abuse as the main causes of child abuse. Infact, the delinquent Greens brought in party pills so all our kids can get faceless at school, smoke dope, smack less, seems to be the message. This country is bloody mess and it’s time for people outside the influence of the insidious political correctness to say it. I make no apology about my attack on Badford, as I have no doubts that the timely demise of the cyfswatch website reeks of an adroit feminazi supporter’s tactic. I suppose my comments about her on this site will have it shut down? Be very worried New Zealand!!She is very desperate to blacken her opponents with the devious tactics employed by the successful sleazy methods of her feminazi mates . Bevan , when will New Zealand again arise to the stature of those that gave their lives for the freedom of this country ? I was an observer in parliament last week at question time to Ministers . Be very worried New Zealand, as this cess-pit country is run by deluded fools competely devoid of realism.
Comment by dad4justice — Tue 27th February 2007 @ 11:18 am
I also beleive that this bill will eventually become the goverments worse nightmare. Early in the South African struggle for blacks to get freedom the government decided to make laws against blacks being educated. This proved to be their down fall as those uneducated blacks become violent against the government and all h*ll broke loss. Can you imagine a few generations of undisciplined children with no respect for anyone, parents, police and goverment. We are having issues with our youth now, imagine what its going to be like with a no smacking bill. What are they going to do build more jails? not just for parents but for the undisciplined children too? And these children become adults and generate more disrespectful children. We are seriously considering leaving NZ, its becoming a nightmare of a place to live!
Comment by wendy — Tue 27th February 2007 @ 3:57 pm
I agree with you Wendy. NZ is broken and it is getting worse.
As for “generations of undisciplined children with no respect for anyone”; I would say (1) some communities are already like this
(2) this would suit Labour just fine.
It is the perfect way to breed more Labour voters. Far from being their worst nightmare, I see it as just more of what we have now.
In addition I don’t see any sign of a future government even acknowledging the real problems. It is not PC to acknowledge the causes of these problems — therefore it will not reverse any time soon.
Comment by Dave — Tue 27th February 2007 @ 4:40 pm
That’s what Republicans do; they return the power to the people.
Comment by Bevan Berg — Tue 27th February 2007 @ 8:54 pm
It’s not called “CYF-alis” for no reason.
A State-transmitted-disease (STD) that needs to be eradicated.
It doesn’t seem we have generations to wait for Wendy’s prophecy of undisciplined children with no respect for anyone: just remember the pizza delivery boy beaten to death by children.
Bring on the great darkness!
Comment by Sparx — Thu 1st March 2007 @ 9:25 am