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Thu 29th November 2007

We’re marching for democracy again

Filed under: Events — Julie @ 5:28 pm

A lot of deceit has gone on over the Electoral Bill but it is from the outside made to look so that the opposition to Labour cannot use their power of money.

And yet at the same time Labour is using dirty political tactics to win votes. This post is only touching the rim. Their tactics are very well planned.

John Keys video

Also of notice is the newspaper article on this bill ….

and the street protest. This is a must to read and notice the placards.

You can check out more if you wish by searching the HeraldNZ newspaper with the words electoral bill.

When 2000 people marched down Queen Street on 17th November the Prime Minister dismissed it as, “Not indicative of a groundswell.”

What do you think about that Aucklanders?

If you care about free elections – whatever party you support – come to the Auckland Town hall Saturday 1st December from 2pm and march down Queen Street at 2.30pm.

And show Helen Clark, Winston Peters, Jeanette Fitzsimons and Peter Dunne that elections are not owned by the Government, but by the people.

We’re Here To Help

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 2:14 pm

I watched this South Pacific Pictures movie last night and recommend it highly to all. It’s about Dave Henderson’s real-life fight against the IRD that shafted him. Many have been shafted by government departments and Courts, but few battle as effectively as Mr Henderson did.

Notable in the story were the gender issues. The problem apparently began when a male IRD officer made inappropriate personal comments to Mr Henderson’s partner. When Mr Henderson attempted to defend her honour by threatening violence, the IRD officer mounted a vendetta.

His partner, though initially happy at his chivalry, soon became stressed at the developments. She started attributing the problem to Mr Henderson’s own shortcomings, his anger and social impropriety (even though he behaved quite well after his initial outburst). She pushed him against his better judgement to share details about what was happening but as soon as he did she sulked and complained that he was raising his voice. She became angry with him when in his stressed condition he showed impatience towards her son. She berated him for raising his voice etc even while she was shouting at him about it. In the middle of it all she left him because it was too stressful, thereby wrecking the bond he had fostered with her son and leaving Mr Henderson bereft. When he eventually succeeded she was back to “I miss you”, and his chivalry extended to forgiving her readily for her abandonment of him in his hour of need.

Many men will find the themes quite familiar from their own experiences. Of a number of morals to this story, I will highlight only the importance of keeping detailed records of all communications and experiences when involved in a dispute.

Wed 28th November 2007

Justifiable Anger Management – Five Ways Forward

Filed under: Domestic Violence — Jim Bagnall @ 2:13 pm

J.A.M has been developed by Jim Bagnall during and through his support for over 10,000 Fathers and a few Mothers going through the Family Court.

The word justifiable applies to the context of the anger and its source and does not glorify anger in anyway. Justifiable is a word for an acceptance of that person’s anger.

The Pay/Fight back scale provides a framework and a structure in which anger exists and an explanation both to the angry person and their helper of how both the energy from the anger can be used and how a person can use the scale not only for understanding their anger but for analysis and action to combat their role deletion.

The scale usually should be read or listened to from its base which starts out with description at the Instinctual level and then moves up through anger’s mind treadmills and obsessions to a social level and a place where a person can find outlets for his/her analysis of where he/she is at.

At the top of the scale there is a place where standards are reshaped through analysis and where a re formed identity is realized and a higher justification is reached based on valuing people and a just outcome giving new strength through adversity.

Contact Jim Bagnall for J.A.M

Mon 26th November 2007

Small but important acknowledgement

Filed under: General — UF @ 11:33 am

Multi-Party Group Works On Family Violence Prevention

Press Release by New Zealand Government at 3:28 pm, 22 Nov 2007

The Multi-Party Working Group on Family Violence is committed to working together to eliminate family violence in New Zealand, said Social Development and Employment Minister Ruth Dyson today.

“The multi-party group is made up of MPs from ACT, the Greens, Labour, the Maori Party, New Zealand First, Progressive and United Future. The group is committed to providing leadership to end family violence and to promote stable, healthy family relationships. All New Zealanders have a role to play in eliminating family violence,” said Ruth Dyson.

“The group are working well together and have recently agreed to a Memorandum of Understanding which is a commitment to a sustained and collaborative effort to deal with this complex social issue.”

Tomorrow the group will visit family violence related initiatives in South Auckland. The programme includes visits to initiatives that target people at key developmental and transition stages such as Family Start that works with new parents and Mangere Genesis Youth Project Trust who work with young offenders and their families.

The group is also preparing for White Ribbon Day on 25 November 2007. This is the international day when people wear a white ribbon to show that they do not condone men’s violence towards women.

“We also acknowledge the need to recognise New Zealand research that highlights the fact that family violence involves both male and female perpetrators and victims and that more needs to be done to reduce all forms of partner violence, as well as violence towards children,” said Ruth Dyson.

The group stresses that violent behaviour of any sort is unacceptable in the home.

“Family violence is such a serious and multi-faceted problem that we all need to work together, at all levels of society, to make New Zealand a safe place for our children and families to grow and thrive.”



 Third to bottom para – just about the first mention in a government release.  Small but important step…

Tue 20th November 2007

A New Web Site for Men’s Groups

Filed under: General — JohnPotter @ 4:27 pm

www.mensgroups.org.nz has been developed by David Brindley. Drawing on experience as a Trustee of MensTrust in Christchurch, his own growth through Men’s Work and as a participant and organiser of Men’s Groups, David has worked to create an informative web site to support Men currently in groups and to encourage Men to seek and join a Group.

Events for Novemeber and December

Filed under: General — Julie @ 3:15 pm

Sorry for the short notice but we have tickets for free parking in a city carpark and free tickets for a special area where children will not only see the Santa Parade but receive free goodies and such.

Santa Parade for single parents (mums and dads)

Also free tickets for a family show from Southern Stars Charitable Trust. Once again these tickets are $30 each to the public.

Date: 8th December 2007
Venue: ASB Showgrounds, Greenlane Rd West, Auckland
Times: 10am, 1pm and 4pm.

Christmas Adventure

Please let me know ASAP. If I can’t get the tickets out to you in time you can pick them up from my home.


Waitakere Men’s Health Week

Filed under: Events — Julie @ 3:02 pm

An awareness week for Men’s Health featuring FREE Men’s Health Check-ups, FREE Men’s Gym Sessions and a FREE Men’s Health Forum.

Waitakere Men’s Health Week. Waitakere City is to have it’s inaugural Men’s Health Week from 19 – 25 November. This week, which features FREE Men’s Health Checks at participating local medical practices, FREE Men’s Fitness Sessions at participating local gyms and a FREE Men’s Health Forum, is all about raising men’s awareness about the necessity to get checked regularly. It is a forum about men, for men, women and youth. The Forum, MC’d by Peter Leitch – The Mad Butcher, opened by Pete Hodgson – The Minister of Health, and featuring top speakers on Cardio Vascular Disease, Prostate Cancer, Men’s Mental Health and The Importance of a Healthy Male Workforce, will provide the men of Waitakere with all the information they need to keep alive and well. Simple tests conducted by a GP could save the lives of many Waitakere men of all ethnicities, from all walks of life, who die from preventable diseases such as Cardio Vascular Disease and Prostate Cancer. The Forum, from 6.30 – 9.00pm on Wednesday 21 November at The Trusts Stadium in Henderson, is a joint initiative between HealthWEST PHO and The Lions Club of Te Atatu. There will be great information stalls and wonderful prize draws for circular saws, toolboxes, T-shirts and other blokes stuff. Be a man, be staunch, be there!!! For a brochure:

Contact: Kay Lindley
Tel: 837 8820 Fax: 837 8852
Email: kay@healthwest.co.nz
Website: www.healthwest.co.nz

Sun 18th November 2007

SPECIAL REPORT: The trouble with men

Filed under: General — Julie @ 11:58 am

Sunday Star Times

Callister, a senior research fellow at Victoria University, is leading a three-year, $1.7 million study into what has happened to those “missing men”.

He says the plight of New Zealand men has historically been desperately under-researched. He blames a mindset which goes like this: men still hold most of the top corporate jobs and have higher average salaries, therefore women are still disadvantaged, and therefore we needn’t worry about men.

“It’s not either-or,” says Callister. “You can have men over-represented at the bottom, and still have them over-represented at the top.” No doubt feminism’s battle is not yet over, but “it’s not like you have to win one before you start with the other”.

Sad that it is going to take 3 years for this study to finish and then the effects will take longer. It seem that Universities are starting to openly discuss the real need for research on men and the Family’s Commission also but still there is nowhere near the resources available for men’s studies/issues as there are for women’s studies/issues. And all this is going to take time.

Feminists have to share resources. There is on other way.

Tue 6th November 2007


Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:10 pm


Eyore Eyore he ought to tell that joke to everybody.

Gullible In Godzone.

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:46 pm

Wake up my friends and fellow countrymen; it is not sufficient that we blame our errant youth, that we sacrifice their exuberance and energy to excuse our….. aberrance. It is us who have closed our mind to that essential propriety, which is the essence of society, and our children who suffer, not an enduring devolution, but an enduring de-evolution.

And now beware the uneducated thug who would steal away your life, but beware also the academic tyrant who would steal your way of life. Such is the importance of republicanism, the voice of the people that reminds us that there is a balance in life, that which is the ‘common sense’ of the people.

Politics in isolation is the lost cause of those who would endlessly debate your options. You pay their expenses and they mourn your losses, but somewhere amid this mess of words is an unauthorised shame. The shame of competition and zest that says that success is second best.

If only we could live in fairyland, side by side with the wisdom to aspire, without that frivolity of desire, but alas I see the time has come, to acknowledge what history has always said we would require; the intuition to be consummate, in a passage of society that our future generation will reflect upon and admire.

We’re here to help

Filed under: General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 7:01 pm

For all you good folk out there who have battled are battling IRD heres a must see movie.

In February 1994, Christchurch businessman Dave Henderson walked into the Inland Revenue Department. Dave was not a happy man.

His girlfriend had recently been there to collect a refund Dave’s company was owed.
An IRD staff member made some suggestive comments to her.Dave told the IRD officer that if he ever talked to one of his employees like that again he would kick his “fat arse from one end of Cashel Street to the other”.

And so began a saga of Kafkaesque and yet comedic proportions.

But Dave refused to give in. He kept fighting

He also kept both his sense of humour and his records – of every surreal phone conversation;of every demand; of every piece of paper.

He kept fighting until his battle reached the very highest levels of Government.

And finally, four years after the comedy of errors began, Dave Henderson won.

Dave got his life and his business back together. And in a final ironic two-fingered salute, he bought he building which houses the South Island head office of the IRD.And renamed it Henderson House.

We’re Here to Help is a Kafkaesque comedy based on the true story of one man’s
David-and-Goliath battle with the biggest bureaucracy of all — the tax department.

Sun 4th November 2007

International child support convention

Filed under: Child Support,General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 10:16 am

An international child support convention that will enter its final stages of negotiation on Monday is intended to ease the plight of single parents and their children worldwide.

The International Recovery of Child Support and Other Forms of Family Maintenance Convention, a widely-supported initiative that is due to be finalized later this month.



Fri 2nd November 2007

More Superbowl Myth

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:20 am

My email today to National Radio’s Nine to Noon is self-explanatory. I may make a complaint to the Broadcasting Standards organisation if the station does not correct the misinformation it has broadcast.

Hello Nine to Noon

Good on you for airing the challenge to t-shirts that appear to promote violence against women.

The woman who made the complaint referred to the notion that domestic violence against women increased after the All Blacks’ World Cup loss. There is no
basis in fact for this myth that appears to have been spread by Women’s Refuge after publicity was given to their claim that “We have heard from police
that there was an increase…” (see http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10468736&ref=rss)

Some checking of facts showed there was no average increase in police call outs for domestic violence after the game. Note that Women’s Refuge did not
make any claim that there had been any increase in their own referrals after the game.

The link between domestic violence and sports losses is a feminist myth started in relation to the US Superbowl final in 1993. Although the claim was
quickly investigated and shown to be unfounded, the myth has persisted and is now still perpetuated by people who should know better.

I look forward to your station doing the responsible thing and clarifying for your listeners the misinformation provided innocently by your interviewee.

I also look forward to your future exposes of the many products and advertisements now showing demeaning and hate-promoting messages against men.

Thu 1st November 2007

Mallard’s Violence in Parliament

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:28 pm

Helen Clark has publicly described Mallard’s assault as “defending a woman’s honour” and on that basis has largely excused him for punching another parliamentarian. She believed that Mallard had already suffered enough consequences, although in fact he hasn’t suffered any of note.

The tens of thousands of fathers who have had their paternal role relegated to supervised access for 90 minutes a fortnight at Barnados will have cause to feel pretty annoyed with Clark’s hypocrisy when it comes to her own colleague. Even among the proportion of those men who had done anything whatsoever to deserve such institutionalized torture, many had shown no more than a moment’s loss of self-control under provocation and many had done a lot less than punching someone.

The “woman’s honour” comments show just how dangerous this feminist government is. The only thing that matters to Clark is whether actions serve women or not. You can bet she wouldn’t minmize Mallard’s crime on the basis that it was in defence of a man’s honour. But why would gender make any difference?

In the context of the current, expensive “It’s not OK” anti-violence advertising campaign funded by government, Clark’s self-serving duplicity deserves to be highlighted frequently as the next election approaches.

It may well be reasonable to show understanding and mercy about Mallard’s circumstances and to give him a chance to change his ways before ruining his life and abusing his children by separating them from him. If only such fairness were shown to other men. Instead, the Clark government provides extensive funding to women’s groups including Women’s Refuge who arbitrarily pressure all clients to leave (usually that means kick out) their male partners, regardless of circumstances, without any attempt to verify allegations made about those partners, and in callous disregard of the impact on children of trashing their family units.

Automatic Protection Orders.

Link :

What National is saying is that they are going to give our Police the same authority of a Judge to issue an interim injunction. This is an injunction that will automatically stop one party from associating with any children in that relationship.

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