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Domestic violence goes both ways, study finds

Filed under: General — tonyf @ 10:56 am Sat 2nd September 2006

Finally, a study based on reality rather than fantasy

Domestic violence goes both ways, study finds

Saturday August 19, 2006

Where only one partner in a relationship is violent, it is more likely to be the woman, University of Otago researchers have found.

Researcher Kirsten Robertson, of the university’s psychology department, said the finding indicated a change of thinking was required on domestic violence.

“But there are always campaigns aimed at stopping male violence – we need to accept no violence.”

People tended to find female violence amusing.

I find that comment particularly disturbing

“When asked, ‘does a man deserve to be hit’, women often laugh. They said they did often deserve it as they did things that wound you up.”

Indicitive of a culture which condones, laughs it off, minimises female on male violence

5 Comments »

  1. This country is based on a fantasy that oestrogen is superior to testosterone. Domestic violence is just a symptomatic label.

    Comment by Bevan Berg — Sat 2nd September 2006 @ 11:10 am

  2. Thanks for that Tony F.
    It’s good news indeed.
    It would be even better if Kirsten Robertson had a word or two with her fembrain namesake Neville Robertson at Waikato University.

    Here’s something esteemed social cience researcher and lecturer Warrren Farrel has to say on the subject –

    In 1975 and again in 1985, Murray A. Strauss and Richard J. Gelles and others conducted one of the largest and most respected studies in family violence ever done. What they found, confounded conventional wisdom on the subject:

    Not only are men just as likely to be the victims of domestic violence as women, the study showed that between 1975 and 1985, the overall rate of domestic violence by men against women decreased, while women’s violence against men increased.

    Responding to accusations of gender bias, Strauss re-computed the assault rates based solely on the responses of the women in the 1985 study and confirmed that even according to women, men are the ones more likely to be assaulted by their partner.

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    There is no question that while men on average are bigger and stronger than women, they can do more damage in a fistfight. However according to Professors R.L. McNeely and Cormae Richey Mann, “the average man’s size and strength are neutralized by guns and knives, boiling water, bricks, fireplace pokers and baseball bats.”

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    A 1984 study of 6,200 cases found that 86% of female-on-male violence involved weapons, contrasted with 25% in cases of male-on-female violence. McLeod, Justice Quarterly (2) 1984 pp. 171-193.

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    Of every 100 families, 3.8 experience severe husband-to-wife violence, but 4.5% experience severe wife-to-husband violence. (Strauss, Gelles, Steinmetz, Behind Closed Doors: Violence in American Families (1980).

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    A 1985 study of Texas University students, Breen found that 18% of men and 14% of women reported a violent act by a romantic partner. In the same study, 28% of married men reported that their wives had slapped, punched or kicked them. (Shupe, Stacey & Hazlewood. “Violent Men, Violent Couples (1986) Chapter 3.

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    In another study, 15.5% of men and 11.3% of women reported having hit a spouse while 18.6% of men and 12% of women reported been struck by a spouse Nisnoff & Bitman, Victimology 4, (1979), pp. 131-140.

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    A survey of couples in Calgary, Canada found that the rate of severe husband-to-wife violence was 4.8%, while severe wife-to-husband violence was 10%. Brinkerhoff & Lupri, Canadian Journal of Sociology, 13:4 (1988).

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    JUDGE LOBBIES PAROL BOARD FOR BATTERED WOMEN!

    LOUISIANA – A volunteer group headed by a judge is trying to help women who face long prison sentences for killing husbands, boyfriends or relatives. The Battered Women’s Clemency Project, headed by District Judge F. Rae Swent, will present evidence of abuse to the State Pardon Board in hopes of reducing sentences for the women.The project will not challenge the women’s convictions but rather will present the Pardon Board with evidence of abuse that was not available or not considered in the women’s trials. Free legal representation will be provided jointly by Legal Services of Central Louisiana in Alexandria and it’s sister organiztion, Acadiana Legal Services in Lafayette.

    AFC’s comments:

    MALES FEMALES
    % of murder victims in domestic violence 55.5% 44.5%
    % of spouses acquited for murder of a spouse 1.4% 12.9%
    % of spouses who receive probation for murdering a spouse 1.6% 16.0%
    Average sentence (in years) for murdering a spouse 17.0% 6.0%

    When children are murdered 61% of the time it is by the mother. Mothers abuse children at a rate twice that of fathers. “Source: Murder in Families” – Dept. of Justice, July 1994.

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    HOW INDIVIDUAL WOMEN ARE GIVEN MORE POWER TO KILL THAN THE ENTIRE U.S. GOVERNMENT

    Taken together, the twelve female-only defenses allow almost any woman to take it upon herself to “exercise the death penalty.” The government is not allowed to take it upon itself to kill someone first and declare him or her an abuser later – only a woman can do that to a man.

    “Women Who Kill Too Much and the Courts That Free Them: The Twelve ‘Female-Only’ Defenses” Excerpted from “The Myth of Male Power” by Warren Farrell, Ph.D.

    1) THE INNOCENT WOMAN DEFENSE

    I am starting with the innocent woman defense because it underlies all twelve defenses. At first I had called this the “Female Credibility Principle” because of the tendency to see women as more credible than men because of being thought more innocent. However, even when women admitted making false allegations that they were raped or that their husbands abused them, for example, their admission that they lied was often NOT believed. Therefore the belief in the innocent woman ran even deeper than the tendency to believe women.

    2.) THE PMS DEFENSE (“MY BODY, NO CHOICE”)

    In 1970, when Dr. Edgar Berman said women’s hormones during menstruation and menopause could have a detrimental influence on women’s decision making, feminists were outraged. He was soon served up as the quintessential example of medical male chauvinism. But by the 1980s, some feminists were saying that PMS was the reason a woman who deliberately killed a man should go free. In England, the PMS defense freed Christine English after confessed to killing her boyfriend by deliberately ramming him into a utility pole with her car; and after killing a co-worker, Sandie Smith was put on probation – with one condition: she must report monthly for injections of progesterone to control symptoms of PMS. By the 1990s, the PMS defense paved the way for other hormonal defenses. Sheryl Lynn Massip could place her 6 month old son under a car, run over him repeatedly, and then, uncertain he was dead, do it again, then claim postpartum depression and be given outpatient medical help. No feminist protested.

    3.) THE HUSBAND DEFENSE

    The film “I Love You to Death” was based on a true story of a woman who tried to kill her husband when she discovered he had been unfaithful. She and her mom tried to poison him, then hired a mugger to beat him and shoot him through the head. A fluke led to their being caught and sent to jail. Miraculously, the husband survived. The husband’s first response? Soon after he recovered he informed authorities that he would not press charges. His second response? He defended his wife’s attempts to kill him. He felt so guilty being sexually unfaithful that he thanked his wife! He then re-proposed to her. She verbally abused him, then accepted.

    4.) THE “BATTERED WOMAN SYNDROME” DEFENSE, AKA LEARNED HELPLESSNESS

    Until 1982, anyone who called premeditated murder self-defense would have been laughed out of court. But in 1982, Lenore Walker won the first legal victory for her women-only theory of learned helplessness, which suggests that a woman whose husband or boyfriend batters her becomes fearful for her life and helplessness to leave him so if she kills him, it is really self-defense – even if she has premeditated his murder. The woman is said to be a victim of the Battered Woman Syndrome. Is it possible a woman could kill, let’s say, for insurance money? Lenore Walker says no: she claims, “Women don’t kill men unless they’ve been pushed to a point of desperation.” Ironically feminists had often said, “There’s never an excuse for violence against a woman.” Now they were saying, “But there’s always an excuse for violence against a man… if a woman does it.” That sexism is now called the law in 15 states.

    5.) “THE DEPRESSED MOTHER” DEFENSE: BABY BLUES AND TERRIBLE TWOS

    Remember Sheryl Lynn Massip, a mother in her mid-twenties who murdered he 6-month old son by crushing its head under the wheel of the family car? Massip systematically covered up the murder until she was discovered. Then she testified that she suffered from post-partum depression – or “baby blues.” Her sentence?? Treatment. Mothers do, get the baby blues. As do dads. Were the husband to kill his baby, as Sheryl Lynn did, it is unlikely that we would just treat him for baby blues or Save the Marriage Syndrome. Why does her version of baby blues allow her to receive treatment for child murder, when he would receive life in prison for child murder, with or without baby blues? The Terrible Twos Josephine Mesa beat her 2-year-old son to death with the wooden handle of a toilet plunger. She buried the battered baby in a trash bin. When scavengers found the baby outside her Oceanside, California apartment, she denied she knew him. When the evidence became overwhelming, she confessed. The excuse? She was depressed. The child was going through terrible twos. The punishment? Counselling, probation and anti-depressants. She never spent a day behind bars.

    6. THE “MOTHERS DON’T KILL” DEFENSE ITEM.

    Illinois. Paula Sims reported that her first daughter, Loralei, was abducted by a masked gunman. In fact she murdered Loralei. But she got away with it. So when her next daughter, Heather Lee, disappointed her, she suffocated her, threw her in the trash barrel, and said another masked gunman had abducted her daughter. It wasn’t until the second “masked gunman” abduction that a serious search was conducted. Only the serious search led to evidence. Might Heather Lee be alive today if mothers did not have a special immunity from serious investigation?

    7. THE “CHILDREN NEED THEIR MOTHER” DEFENSE ITEM.

    Colorado. Lory Foster’s husband had returned from Vietnam and was going through mood-swings both from post traumatic stress syndrome and diabetes. They had gotten into a fight and he had abused her. So she killed him. Yet, even the prosecutor did not ask for a jail term. Why not? So Lory could care for the children… Lory was given counselling and vocational training at state expense.The most frequent justification for freeing mothers who kill their children is that their children need them. Moreover, if mothers were freed because “children are the first priority,” then fathers would be freed just as often. But they are not. Even when no mother is available.

    8. THE “BLAME THE FATHER, UNDERSTAND THE MOTHER” DEFENSE ITEM.

    Ramiro Rodriguez was driving back from the supermarket. His daughter was sitting on his wife’s lap. As Ramiro made a left turn, a van crashed into the car and his daughter was killed. Ramiro was charged with homicide. The reason? His daughter was not placed in a safety seat. Ramiro explained that his daughter was sick and wanted to be held so HIS WIFE DECIDED to hold her. Yet only Ramiro was charged. The mother was charged with nothing. Ramiro was eventually acquitted after protests over the racism. No one saw the sexism.

    9.) THE “MY CHILD, MY RIGHT TO ABUSE IT” DEFENSE

    A million crack-addicted children since 1987, but only sixty of the mothers have faced criminal charges. One was convicted. That conviction was reversed by the Michigan Supreme Court. 3 percent of infants in Washington D.C. die from cocaine addiction, but no mothers go to prison. The right to choose means the right to kill – not a fetus but a child. Should the mother who addicts her child to crack have any more rights than another child abuser or drug dealer? How can we give a normal drug dealer a life sentence but claim that a mother that deals drugs to her own child should not so much as stand trial? If we feel compassion for the circumstances that drove her to drugs, where is our compassion for the circumstances that drove the drug dealer to drugs, the child abuser to abuse, the murderer to murder?

    10. THE PLEA BARGAIN DEFENSE

    Once a woman is seen as more innocent, her testimony is more valued, which leads to prosecutors offering the woman a plea bargain in crimes committed jointly by a woman and a man. And if a District Attorney is up for reelection, the Chivalry Factor allows him to look like a hero when his office prosecutes a man or a bully if he should put a woman behind bars.

    11.) THE SVENGALI DEFENSE

    A beautiful woman dubbed “The Miss America Bandit” conducted an armed robbery of a bank. Federal Sentencing guidelines called for a minimum of four and a half to five years in federal prison. The federal judge gave her two years because she told the judge that she was in love with her hairdresser and he had wanted her to rob the bank. The judge concluded, “Men have always exercised malevolent influence over women, and women seem to be soft-touches for it, particularly if sex is involved…It seems to me the Svengali-Trilby relationship is the motivating force behind this lady….the main thing is sex.” [Svengali is a fictional character said to have hypnotic qualities of persuasion over the innocent Trilby.]

    12.) THE CONTRACT KILLING DEFENSE…DEFEND SELF BY HIRING SOMEONE ELSE

    When I did the first review of my files in preparation for this section on contract killing, I was struck by some fascinating patterns. First, all of these women hired boys or men. Second, their targets were usually husbands, ex-husbands, or fathers – men they had once loved. Third, the targeted man usually had an insurance policy significantly larger than the man’s next few years income. Fourth, the women often were never serious suspects until some coincidence exposed their plot. Fifth, the women usually chose one of three methods by which to kill: she (1) persuaded her boyfriend to do the killing (in reverse Svengali style); (2) hired some young boys from a disadvantaged background to do it for a small amount of money; or (3) hired a professional killer, thus usually using the money her husband earned to kill her husband. Dixie Dyson tucked in her husband for his last night’s sleep. She had arranged to have a lifelong friend and a boyfriend pretend to “break and enter,” then rape her, kill her husband, then “escape.” She would collect the insurance money. At the last moment, the lifelong friend backed out, but the boyfriend and Dixie managed to kill Dixie’s husband after 27 stabbings. They were caught. Dixie “cut a deal” to reduce her sentence by reporting the boyfriend and his friend who backed out got 25 years for conspiracy. Deborah Ann Werner was due one third of her dad’s estate. She asked her daughter to find some boys to murder him by plunging a knife through his neck. Diana Bogadanoff hired two young men to kill her husband on an isolated nudist beach, while she watched. After he was shot through the head, she reported the killers but produced no motive for the murder – no money was stolen and she was not sexually molested. Diana did not become a suspect until an anonymous caller contacted a nationwide crime hotline. The caller coincidentally heard about the murder on the radio and remembered a friend describing just such a murder he had refused to do… on an isolated nudist beach while a woman named Diana watched. Without this tip, Diana would never have become even a suspect.

    Comment by Stephen — Sat 2nd September 2006 @ 12:28 pm

  3. Hi Tony f,
    Here’s a link to a great thing. A whole paragraph from American Author and Men’s Rights Activist Warren Farrel’s book
    “Women don’t hear what men don’t say”
    This aprticular chapter pertains to domestic violence and IMO makes for compelling reading.
    He gives permission to reprint so it’s not copywrited. Go for it.

    http://www.mediaradar.org/WCHWMDS_excerpt.php

    Comment by Stephen — Tue 5th September 2006 @ 2:39 pm

  4. Thanks for the great response stephen, will check out ur link

    Comment by tonyf — Thu 7th September 2006 @ 5:51 am

  5. Shame is a powerful force for manipulation. See the Exposing Feminism website for suggestions.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Sat 12th November 2016 @ 9:30 am

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