Miscarriage Of Justice Commission
So retired, Justice Thorpe believes a miscarriage of justice commission should be formed.
Oh yes. Let’s add yet another layer of bureaucracy to an already bureaucratic nightmare.
Precisely how does Thorpe J (retired) expect this ‘commission’ to operate? Will it accept jurisprudence being thrown out in favour of soome ‘other’ measuring process?
For christs sakes, we don’t have a proper measuring process within the halls of current jurisprudence,ergo, the FC.
No, Thorpe J. With the greatest respect we simply want jurisprudence Where allegations must be tested to the very minimum level of a Civil Court test BEFORE any interim or permanent orders are made in the FC.
We demand all Substantive hearings are heard within the statutory 60-days.
We request and require that all allegations are filed as a formal complaint with the New Zealand Police.
We request the preparedness of the police to determine the rectitude such complaint. And in the event the police find insufficient evidence to prosecute, then the allegation is treated as a nullity.
And please, Thorpe J. Do not attempt to assert the test of allegations in the Fc ‘must’ be low for the safety and well-being of the children.
The total lack of sensible test in the FC is the very cause of misery caused to so many children. For example, the 300,000 children currently bereft of a father.
Kind regards
David.
precisely DPX,
On the button mate.
The only thing I wonder about is
I reckon 2 months without seeing your kid/s whilst the vex is poisoning thier innocent minds to hate your guts is an AWEFUL LONG TIME for an anxious (usually) father and the kid/s being emotionally abused.
Comment by Stephen — Wed 9th August 2006 @ 1:07 am
An investigative service will never help unless it is totally independent. whats really needed is a whole new dispute resolution process without case law. there is no incentive for lawyers to resolve things quickly and with lawyers on both sides fanning the fires, the huge cost to men is also a cost to their children. the legal system is pompous and out-moded. its time that citizens rights were put ahead of interest groups
Comment by Andrew — Wed 9th August 2006 @ 10:57 am
I agree dpex, I was wondering this myself. All that is needed is that true EVIDENCE should be produced. Setting up yet another department is not going to cure the problem at all, but drag things on even futher. And if ‘a miscarriage of justice commission’ is set up its only to get more of the ‘big boys club’ mates into nice paying jobs. And of course whos going to monitor the ‘misscarriage of justice commission’? when they get it wrong, yet another waste of tax payers money.
Comment by Wendy — Wed 9th August 2006 @ 11:20 am
Excellent idea.The family court is such a wishy washy load of B.S.,provable allegatons only should be allowed.My court case dragged on for 3 friggin years;to get overnight access.Then when I finally wore the ex down with her crazy allegations;my daughter stayed overnight every other weekend for 2 months.Then one night a flatmate came home ;after the pub;was slightly noisy.my daughter woke up and said she was scared so I told her to go sleep in my bed and was there in 5 minutes.After that she has not stayed again as her anally retentive mother has taught her that drunk men are very dangerous to 7 year olds.Due to child support poverty ;I need a flatmate to help with my mortgage.I have now just given up;wondering what the point of it all is;5 years post divorce.
Comment by keith — Wed 9th August 2006 @ 5:46 pm
The family court system is a joke there are no rights for fathers who care.it is a biased system that cant comprehened that a male would want to have contact with his children. No wonder guys just walk away from their children i can completely see now. After a 1 year of fighting a relocation order on the basis of knowing that my ex would not up hold any agreement and purely for the fact i wanted 50/50 custody to watch my children grow.less than six months after she was allowed to move to a (w%@ker of a judge) she has already reduced my phone contact and has not only spent money from the childrens flight account but has turned a blind eye to our signed agreement.
In my opinion there is no law and there is only so much talking to be done before someone steps up to the plate and shows the system that this is just not F*@kin good enough!
Comment by phil — Wed 9th August 2006 @ 6:23 pm
The Family Court violates many articles covered in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights . It is disturbing & gut wrenching for a good father to have back away from the corruption and prejudice he faces in the Court only to be labelled as a ‘ aggrieved litigant ‘ . I can assure all- as a ex client of the Court ( 5 year vet ) – I can say that the vulnerable children are at the mercy of unhealthy gravy train of deceit.I hold no respect for anybody in the NZ judicial system as they proved to me that they are consummmate liars who enjoy crushing the soul’s of many good parents .I have witnessed incompetence and malicious manipulation from so called professional people who I hold no respect for.Stuff the scum – how can they say it is in the childs’ best interests !!!!????
Comment by dad4justice — Thu 10th August 2006 @ 7:12 am
Has anyone noticed how lawyers just take control in these matters and pretty soon it just gets a whole lot worse? I will never use one again but initially I did have an unjustified faith in the process. anyone who goes to a lawyer has a problem. by the time they leave, they have a very complicated, expensive problem. why is that lawyers who make their living out of suing everyone else never get sued themselves, particularly when they must have the highest failure rate in any commercial enterprise
Comment by Andrew — Thu 10th August 2006 @ 9:33 am