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Oh, Crap…

Filed under: General — Tigerseye @ 8:55 am Wed 12th November 2008

Original article…

It is also understood Key plans to relieve Judith Collins of the welfare portfolio and offer it to up-and-coming Waitakere MP and solo mother Paula Bennett.

Let’s hope she is not a bitter, anti-male solo mother.


  1. I have met Paula Bennett and got the opportunity to voice concerns at the operation of CS. She certainly made supportive noises, none the less she is a polititian and will say what you want to hear without answering the question.

    For me I suggest we put together a list of requests and send it to all National MP’s over as many signitures as possible. We become “A Fathers co-operative”

    Any thoughts?

    Comment by Alastair — Wed 12th November 2008 @ 2:22 pm

  2. Good idea Alastair. I agree also with Darryl’s views expressed in another thread that we now have some possible opportunity to increase awareness in newly-elected MPs and ministers about fathers’ and men’s concerns. And yes, it will be important that any such dialogue is reasoned and non-abusive.

    For example, Key wants to reduce government spending. He could probably make all the savings he seeks simply by discontinuing the Ministry of Women’s Affairs. Let’s make him aware there would be some strong support for this.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Wed 12th November 2008 @ 3:47 pm

  3. Paula is already supportive. Waitakere is a good place.

    Comment by julie — Wed 12th November 2008 @ 8:23 pm

  4. Paula is already supportive.

    Julie have a read of Paula’s hansard questions on Child Tax and her speech on the COC Bill.



    Comment by Scrap_The_CSA — Wed 12th November 2008 @ 10:04 pm

  5. Hans, that is a great idea. I’m happy to help draught a letter. If every mens group is happy to support it – working as one – that would be very advantageous.

    Comment by Tigerseye — Wed 12th November 2008 @ 10:19 pm

  6. I agree, I’m happy to post it onto Pauls-News, Hans could possibly do the same on NZFVL. These may be better, they are not public. When released it is more of a surprise and we don’t have so many spies in our midst.

    Comment by Alastair — Wed 12th November 2008 @ 11:16 pm

  7. I don’t know about Paula Bennett but she has to be better than Judith Colins.
    Katherine Rich is out so that’s one strong plus.
    Paula Bennett said the following in Hansard on Family Courts Matters Bill (2008):

    “As I have said earlier–and I want to reiterate it again–as far as I am concerned it is one of those processes where it is very hard to find winners. It is very hard to find anyone who comes out of this court process and feels like they have actually accomplished what they want to. At the end of the day, my personal opinion would be that if one is not getting to spend as much time with one’s children as one possibly can and find something that actually is equitable for both parties, then it is always a bit of a shame for everyone involved.”


    Might I suggest that we view Paula Bennett as an opportunity. Perhaps if we work on her and educate her and reason with her there is a chance of some small gains. If we attack her from the start we harm ourselves.

    Comment by Dave — Fri 14th November 2008 @ 4:58 pm

  8. This is one post previous to the good luck post.

    Worth a read, now.

    Comment by Boonie — Thu 13th June 2019 @ 3:22 pm

  9. You need to do something BIG, controversial, in that I don’t think it has been done before here in lil’ ol’ NZ, a gathering, naf?, you bet.

    Comment by mama — Thu 13th June 2019 @ 4:16 pm

  10. I didn’t know where to put this, the the title is perfect.

    So this is short sighted spending.
    Hence me thinking Oh, Crap.
    A project at a time, costed out.
    Budgeted for, loans arranged.
    Progress slowed by legal roadblocks.

    What if you changed your perception.
    Imagining Auckland in 100 years.
    Having to build something, that may take that long.
    You couldn’t budget for it, the cost enormous.
    No politician may see results, to help re-election.

    What could that be, for rail.
    It could be, a network, of underground rail.
    Courier routes, factory connected, and main freight lines.
    Passenger routes, shopping centres, to bus stations.
    All connected, robot controlled.

    The surface, more free for humans to use.

    Why then not begin, however slowly.
    Here worker, you have a job for life.
    We have got you this tunnel boring machine.
    There is no need to stop.

    It costs this much per year to run.
    Less than budgeted, including debt costs.
    So this % of budget.
    Eventually they will finish.

    As each part is finished.
    It begins paying for itself.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 29th October 2021 @ 8:38 am

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