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Destroy the Patriarchy by killing your baby

Filed under: General,Men's Health — Julie @ 12:26 pm Fri 24th April 2009

Janet Fraser is perhaps Australia’s most ferocious advocate of home births.

Her spiel mixes militant feminism and a green age’s worship of Earth Mother: “In a woman-hating society obsessed with the control and regulation of women’s bodies, choosing to birth at home makes a crucial statement of withdrawal from patriarchy.”

Medical intervention to help the baby or spare the mother is “birthrape”, and obstetricians are warned: “When you rupture those membranes . . . even when the woman screams no, that’s rape.”

Joyous Birth’s 1000 members are even urged by its website to scrawl on hospital walls “Episiotomy is genital mutilation” and “Did your rapist wear a mask and gown?”

Janet’s first child was delivered by emergency caesarean and she had not once in her pregnancy seen a doctor for her second child.

She was determined she would have her baby the natural way like an animal because medicine and medical treatment means “men” power.

Sadly, an ambulance was eventually called but they could not save her baby.

Why would someone do this? But I guess, “A woman’s body, a woman’s choice”

How far feminists will go to destroy men (patriarchy) is not just radical, it is insane.


  1. Good post thanks Julie. Such radical feminist theory seems paranoid even though it may not be entirely without validity. Relevant here is a recent post that shows how self-centred feminist reasoning can be. That woman insisted on raping a man in a coma for his sperm, and the fact that the system thought this ok shows the extent to which the feminist ideology of female privilege has captured the western world.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Sun 26th April 2009 @ 12:19 pm

  2. ……..and here comes another feminist post modern generation……
    more dismantled families……..more state control……..
    more tax money…….more violence…..more heartache…..
    more excuses………


    Comment by Skeptik — Sun 26th April 2009 @ 1:39 pm

  3. And there’s always the ability to become pregnant as a ploy to avoid imprisonment, or obtain a shorter prison sentence, or to provide grounds for an appeal against sentence, and/or to ensure a prison experience even more privileged than average for women compared with prison for men. Such pregnancy can be seen as a form of child exploitation. The baby is destined for a detrimental start to life and is at risk of being separated from his/her mother if the sentence exceeds the time allowed for babies to remain with their mothers. We will no doubt see a lot more of this from women facing trial for serious crimes.

    And men had better not displease women or this might happen. How dare a man allow his sexual needs to be financially exploited by prostitutes other than the one he’s with?

    Comment by Hans Laven — Sun 26th April 2009 @ 10:28 pm

  4. Wow Hans!
    Thanks for the link to “this”.
    That’s a story I would have missed.
    So the ho sleeps with whom she pleases
    (provided they’ve got the cash to rent her skanky body of course).
    But then she gets into a jealous rage because ‘her’ boyfriend sleeps with other women.
    Talk about a double standard!
    It will be interesting to see the defense.
    What’s the bet it’ll be the same old “she had a traumatic childhood, your honour” crap, and that compared to men who’ve killed she gets a lesser sentence.
    She won’t be kept in remand in that shithole that’s worse than a kennel called Mount Eden either.

    Comment by Skeptik — Mon 27th April 2009 @ 3:46 am

  5. The same old traumatic childhood excuse at least will probably have some validity. However, the most likely excuse will be grossly exaggerated or largely fictitious allegations that the man was a violent abuser.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Mon 27th April 2009 @ 12:02 pm

  6. You two (Hans and Skeptic) work well together bringing feminist issues to the online world.

    I hope you both stay and continue to wake your brothers up to the nasty women in this world.

    Comment by julie — Mon 27th April 2009 @ 1:46 pm

  7. There are nasty men and nasty women. Neither gender is exclusively responsible for violence, exploitation, selfishness or social damage. It’s possible that men have had a somewhat greater responsibility on average for some or all of these problems. Neither gender is exclusively responsible for nurturing, kindness, co-operative behaviour or positive role-modelling. It’s possible that women have provided a somewhat greater contribution on average in these areas. But a valid balance sheet comparing the merits, contributions and costs of the genders would be complicated, probably impossible and probably pointless. As Frank Zappa said, you are what you is.

    Women and men are human and imperfect, and they are wonderful and amazing. Some ideologies have led people down terrible roads. Few ideologies, including for example Nazi beliefs, were not entirely without merit but were nevertheless seriously flawed in some fundamental ways. Unfortunately, the excesses and flaws of feminist ideology, or more correctly the range of ideologies that come under the feminist umbrella, seem to be leading society down a terrible road.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Mon 27th April 2009 @ 4:14 pm

  8. Sad as that is, …. it is still important to show the flaws. As much as I don’t like to throw too far in fear of several coming back at myself, lol, I think it is a neccessary evil in today’s society.

    You can’t let the rot continue for too much longer.

    Comment by julie — Mon 27th April 2009 @ 7:26 pm

  9. Thank-you Julie.

    Hans, I agree there probably wil be some validity to the claim of traumatic upbringing.
    The only point I wish to make is that there are plenty of NZ men who’ve had traumatic upbringings, ended up comitting as serious a crime as her and will have to spend much longer in the clink.

    Comment by Skeptik — Mon 27th April 2009 @ 9:59 pm

  10. Wow Hans always says great things

    Comment by martin swash — Tue 28th April 2009 @ 12:09 am

  11. But i would like to say that everyone knows about the nasty men,
    but not much about the nasty women in the world.

    There is a great book called Venus The dark side about Sociopathic women although it is difficult to buy in NZ/Oz
    My ex was one, very attractive and charming, BUT WITH NO MORALS OR CONSCIENCE

    Comment by martin swash — Tue 28th April 2009 @ 12:19 am

  12. Thanks Martin for that link. I wish I had conducted ‘due diligence’ with my ex; that list of questions certainly would have immediately shown up some of the issues that were to become debilitating problems.

    Comment by Jonathan — Tue 28th April 2009 @ 9:05 am

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