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Tackling the human costs of social experiment

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,General,Law & Courts — Julie @ 10:52 am Wed 22nd April 2009

Family First NZ has made submissions to two high profile bills before parliament at the moment. We would encourage you to take a moment to read these submissions and provide feedback on these important issues.

Three Strikes Law

Family First supports the intent of the Sentencing and Parole Reform Bill (also dubbed the “Three Strikes Law”). This law prevents REPEAT VIOLENT OFFENDERS the ability to put families at risk. Here’s just one recent example “Police Killer had history of violence”

As stated in our submission…

  • The purpose of this law would be to warn career criminals to find a new job or else they will become career inmates – they are given 2 chances to stop their violent behaviour
  • This law would allow police, prosecutors and judges to intervene early enough to save lives instead of waiting for a violent offender to victimise another person.
  • Supporters of this bill do not want ‘revenge’ — they simply wish to be able to live unmolested and not in the fear of violent criminals. This is called ‘justice.’
  • The consequences for persistent offending should be sufficiently severe to ensure that the benefits of the crime are outweighed by the punishment
  • If a repeat offender is incapacitated, then the crime reduction will be great
  • Addressing the ‘underlying causes’ is relevant, but it doesn’t solve the immediate problem — protecting the public from persistent offenders
  • research in California which implemented Three Strikes in 1994 has shown that California’s population is 50% larger… but crime is 50% less!!
  • Please note: there is further debate to be had on the role of prisons and how we tackle the drug, alcohol and educational needs of inmates. BUT that is a separate debate. This bill is about protecting your family and mine from REPEAT violent offenders.
    Recent experience in the United States has also shown that enhanced sentencing measures work best when combined with other types of programs that can help reintegrate offenders back into the community. Government re-entry assistance in the form of temporary housing, vocational training, and counselling promises to help to reduce the incidents of re-offending and encourage offenders to seek productive and useful lives.

    READ our Full Submission
    FEEDBACK We would like to hear your thoughts on our submission. Email: [email protected]
    HAVE YOU BEEN AFFECTED? We would like to hear if you have been the victim of a violent crime and the offender has been on to their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, …10th offence. Please email in confidence
    [email protected]

    Sale and Supply of Liquor Laws

    This bill deals with local liquor outlets, parental supervision, alcohol advertising and other issues. Family First supports the intent of this bill in attempting to minimise the harm of alcohol abuse and the increasing availability of alcohol. Ultimately, it is not alcohol that is the problem. It’s the abuse of alcohol and the culture of binge drinking that we have allowed to develop.
    Specifically, we have recommended:
    * pre-vetting procedure of liquor advertisements or promotions by the Director-General of Health
    * Alcohol advertising should be limited to ‘target’ adult audiences, played later at night on free-to-air tv (at least 9.30pm), and should not be allowed on public billboards. The ads should contain health warnings (referred to above)
    * grocery-selling stores should not be able to obtain a liquor licence but this should be extended to supermarkets
    * banning of ‘loss leading’ with alcohol
    * consumption by under 18’s should be illegal, irrespective of parental presence or consent.
    * health warnings to be placed on alcohol, in the same way that health warnings have been placed on cigarettes.
    * Raise the purchase age back to 20 — supported by public polls (70%) and a recent Police Association poll (75%)

    READ our Full Submission
    FEEDBACK We would like to hear your thoughts on our submission. Email [email protected]

    Related news

    Govt proposes courses for parents whose kids break the law
    TV3 News 18 Apr 2009

    The Government wants to force parents whose children are repeatedly caught drunk under-age to take courses in becoming better parents. Police Minister Judith Collins joined officers as they patrolled the streets of Papakura last night. Ms Collins says it is disturbing that children as young as 12 are drinking hard liquor on the streets and at home.

    ..Ms Collins says some responsibility for the problem must lie with parents. “A lot of these young people are not getting alcohol from licensed premises,” she says. “They are getting it from supermarkets, and friends, and family and parents.” Ms Collins says the Government is looking at giving youth court judges the power to order parents whose children continually break the law to get mentored on parenting. “When you’ve got parents who are supplying their young under-age children with alcohol, those parents are failing.” Labour says it is not a solution by itself.


    1. it is quite difficult to recover from Alcohol Abuse because alcohol is also very addictive just like Cigarettes and drugs…”

      Comment by Owen Murphy — Thu 6th May 2010 @ 8:10 am

    2. sometimes it is quite difficult to recover from alcohol abuse. `:’

      Comment by Daisy Jackson — Sat 10th July 2010 @ 10:13 pm

    3. of course alcohol abuse is very dangerous to the health, it can cause cirrhosis and other bad effects `

      Comment by Shower Radio · — Mon 8th November 2010 @ 6:16 am

    4. This is an interesting case, that was news from the start.
      The post, supports three strikes.

      Because the article shows, the bad side of arbitrary sentences.
      This case was a somewhat, forced kiss.
      Hardly a serious crime, deserving seven years.
      I wonder how much the kiss is worth, in compensation.
      That event, vs years of prison.

      This is a very important event, for men.
      Because a prosecutor, demanded years.
      And the judge originally, found it acceptable.
      For men with criminal history, it’s important.
      As history, doesn’t dictate judging the event itself.
      The prosecutor, must self test there demand.
      The judge has a case, as a standard to consider.

      The judge may not like, the excessive demand.

      Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 29th September 2022 @ 5:58 pm

    5. Three strikes, is an interesting concept.
      Because it’s fair, to increase sentences.
      But it was just a kiss, and far from planed.

      I heard an argument, that all men are rapists.
      And rattled out, a long list of everything.
      Essentially any initiative for sex, is rape to her.
      Not once did the commenter, do the female list.
      After all it was six months, for a kiss.

      The unsolicited groping.
      The removing of the condom.
      The jumping in there bed when he’s asleep.
      The waiting for him to be drunk.
      The exposure of body parts.
      The offering them drugs.
      The buying them drinks.
      The promise not kept.
      The following them to there home.
      The lying about being on contraception.
      The sex with extortion.
      The beaten husband made to penetrate.
      The paternity fraudster still having sex.
      The unsolicited kiss.

      Imagine three strikes, for women.

      Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 30th September 2022 @ 10:41 am

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