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Western Arrogance

Filed under: General — blamemenforall @ 8:57 pm Wed 8th April 2009

Western governments have expressed abhorrence at Afghanistan’s new laws that require a wife to fulfil her husband’s sexual desires and to wear makeup for him if he requests it.  Feminists and others have described the law as abhorrent and as “legalizing rape within marriage”.

It’s fair enough to express disagreement with another culture’s ideas and codes.  But surely there’s room for good faith, fairness, a little respect and some recognition that our own beliefs might possibly be as fallible as those we criticize.

The Muslim law may not necessarily legalize rape within marriage.  It’s not clear that a wife is required to submit each and every time her husband wants sex.  However, the law appears to place some marital obligations on the wife as well as on the husband. 

Can we be really sure that our approach is better?  Feminism has led us to believe that placing any marital obligations on women is bad, it’s abusive for a husband to dare to complain about anything about her including the way she keeps the house while he breaks his body to pay the rent, the way she looks after her body or appearance, or anything else (but if she complains that, for example, he is not bringing in enough money, that’s ok and he’s still the one in the wrong, a deadbeat dad…).

And how on earth can westerners claim to know better about how to conduct successful relationships?  Under our codes the majority of marriages end before their children even grow up, we have an epidemic of unhappy blended families likely to last even less than the broken marriages that preceded them, and we see a more general epidemic of unhappy dissatisfaction with life.

We know better.  We’re right and they’re wrong. Feminism knows better.  Yeah right.


  1. Spot on analysis.
    Well done!
    I agree most western men do indeed break thier bodies to sustain the demands of women and children.
    As a result western men die 2 election cycles younger than western women, who then demographically dominate and get gynocentric laws passed by toadying politicians to suit themselves –
    Many of them then try to lay a load of victim shit on men by saying it’s not fair they don’t get the salaries men do. THEY WOULD IF THEY WORKED AS HARD AND MADE THE SACRIFICES MEN DO!

    All relationships are based on reciprocity, on give and take.
    Yet I know increasing numbers of western men who are saying enough’s enough and kicking back – taking thier foot off the breadwinning pedal and cruising more. Good on ’em!!!

    Western women have through their entitlement attitudes increasingly priced themselves out of marriage/relationship marketplace. They’re too demanding, too narcicistic and gynocentric to be worth bothering with.
    Recently in Edinburgh, Scotland a large club held a singles event. 500 women turned up and TWO men. TWO!
    Just ask and I’ll post the link for the article which made national news there.
    Western women. We now meet them in the workplace and tolerate them – rightly at a safe distance.

    I’ve met thousands of them and cannot think of a single available western woman on whose terms it is worth the soul destroying effort of forging a partnership with.
    Seeing them I’m filled with disgust.
    If they aren’t wallowing in me, me, me spoilt self pity, they appear to be so wallowing in self agrandisement whilst callously blithe and ignorant about western men’s lot.
    They are welcome to becoming spinsters with pet cats – and attitudes.
    Good luck to them.

    Comment by Skeptik — Wed 8th April 2009 @ 9:28 pm

  2. Skeptic says,

    I’ve met thousands of them and cannot think of a single available western woman on whose terms it is worth the soul destroying effort of forging a partnership with.

    Crickeys, you must be a catch.

    I wouldn’t even say I have got to know 100 men personally. lol

    Anyhow, point taken.

    Comment by julie — Wed 8th April 2009 @ 10:03 pm

  3. Julie, you don’t need to get to know thousands of women deeply and personally to see thier blatant character qualities.

    Yes, I am a catch……
    ….and like many many fine men as I’ve outlined have wisened and won’t get caught out.

    Comment by Skeptik — Thu 9th April 2009 @ 2:46 am

  4. Yes, I am a catch……
    ….and like many many fine men as I’ve outlined have wisened and won’t get caught out.

    Sounds like you’ve got it sussed. Good for you!

    Comment by julie — Thu 9th April 2009 @ 4:09 pm

  5. Go Skeptic!
    I was on the committee of “Club 77” a large singles club in Auckland (Started in 1977!!)
    We organized a wide rqange of activities, dances, etc.
    It all folded a few years back because:
    Lots of lovely women-
    NO men (other than a few drunken drop-kicks after a quick lay)- and me of course.
    I wouldn’t characterise the women- many are still friends- and I can’t speak for the men who stayed away in droves- but a couple of quick observations-
    1 A woman has HER family, HER home- naturally- there things are hers arn’t they??
    A man who bangs on about HIS family that DON’T live with him, and how he came to be living in a flat, sleepout, or car, how his wages all go in child support-
    2 Despite 1 above- the man is expected to PAY for a date, a lady’s drink, etc.
    A man is always TO BLAME for sex.

    So- I can understand why a woman of 30+ has almost zero chance of finding a suitable partner.
    Google “Man Drought”.

    Plus side- there are a few women out there who have figured out the score.


    Comment by John Brett — Sun 12th April 2009 @ 5:10 pm

  6. Thanks John,
    This explains alot to me too.

    Comment by Skeptik — Sun 12th April 2009 @ 11:49 pm

  7. John, you were running the club I wanted to be a part of. It was such a shame it stopped and I don’t think I can help to bring it back alive with my children at the age they are. I spoke with a women who said, “The committee members have grandchildren now”, and I think that is why we have a strong grandparents group.

    I guess it is as older feminists say, “A generation has been lost as families. Many women will not have children and many men will not have children”.

    I think the next generation is where the effort needs to be made. Whether allowing women to be single mothers to have children comes back to bite society on the backside is a problem that will be sorted when the children grow.

    Right now I think the focus in on the young single mothers and young single fathers.

    Comment by julie — Mon 13th April 2009 @ 11:22 am

  8. And here are the new rules western men increasingly appear to be playing by.

    Comment by Skeptik — Sat 18th April 2009 @ 4:52 pm

  9. Brilliant Skeptik, i agreed with every one of his rules. But we must get the message across to young men, I wish that i knew these “rules” a few years ago

    Comment by secret societies — Sat 18th April 2009 @ 10:36 pm

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