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Acting like a MAN???

Filed under: General — triassic @ 10:15 am Fri 22nd January 2010

Is the mother in the article Shock at ‘subjecting children to unimaginable and horrific living conditions ‘acting outside her normal gender role??? Is this possible?? If so then males must be capable of it as well. This then makes it a non gender issue…period.

James Cameron, when writing AVATAR, portrayed a society on planet PANDORA as being close to ‘mother’ nature but even James slipped up when he showed only the female of the species looking after the children. There needs to be a paradigm shift in the way males are portrayed in society, only then will all the bullshit in the courts disappear. Until then pull the hatch down and prepare to take a beating.


  1. Anybody acting this way is acting outside a human role full stop.

    I would reject outright any assertion that this woman is acting like a man for the rank prejudice it is. There are so few folk who would act in this way that introducing gender into the picture can only be politically and idealogically motivated and should be decried as bigotry.

    This individual is a demon.

    Comment by gwallan — Sat 23rd January 2010 @ 10:04 pm

  2. Reply to Gwallen…

    ‘This individual is a demon.’….Spot on….Well said good Sir.

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Sun 24th January 2010 @ 9:51 am

  3. Who says that the woman is “acting outside her normal gender role”. I did not see those words.
    It is well researched that most child abuse is carried out by women, perhaps because women have most of the time with children.

    Comment by John Brett — Mon 25th January 2010 @ 7:18 am

  4. or…
    while we’re drifting from human to avatar, I digress to bovine…
    In this weeks’ Sunday magazine (SSTimes) What I Do regular feature,
    Rob Hall – Sheep/Beef farmer and artificial insemination technician…

    ‘… A cow has also got to have a good mothering instinct. There’s nothing worse than a wild heifer who dumps her calf and takes off up the river. In the Human world there’s be some people that you’d think hmmm, don’t think she should have been a mother – and cows are exactly the same’

    ‘The bulls are very passive and friendly. I breed for temperament. You’ve got to remember that they’re a 1300+kg monster and they can squash you if they want, but they respect you, they know you’re in control.
    The cows are more dangerous. They’re the ones you’ve got to watch, same as in the human world.’

    Comment by realkiwi — Mon 25th January 2010 @ 10:11 pm

  5. What is “Normal” for a woman? A creature whose existance is at the whim of her emotions and hormones!

    As has been widely proulgated “Why are computers in the feminine gender? ………….. Only their creater understands their internal logic!”

    Comment by Keen Skier — Tue 26th January 2010 @ 7:36 am

  6. nicely said

    Comment by Paul MacKay — Wed 27th January 2010 @ 12:12 pm

  7. Reply to keen Skier

    …..Hmmmmmmmm……Just my humble opinion on your post,if you don’t mind….thank you…..

    ‘Human beings’ whose existence is at the whim of there emotions and hormones …..You might be very surprised how emotional Men can get,and believe or not…. Men have hormones too…..

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Wed 27th January 2010 @ 12:40 pm

  8. Like Testoserone? Stirs up agression?

    Comment by Keen Skier — Wed 27th January 2010 @ 8:19 pm

  9. An analysis of the great art and music and literature over hundreds or even thousands of years – almost exclusively male produced – would support you here.

    Comment by gwallan — Wed 27th January 2010 @ 11:10 pm

  10. I’m unsure whether you misunderstood John’s post entirely or whether you’re being deliberately insensitive and provocative towards men, insinuating that they feel no other emotion except aggression.

    It appears from this study that estrogen is more likely the hormone that contributes most towards aggressive behaviour.

    Results. Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Wed 27th January 2010 @ 11:13 pm

  11. Overly aggressive men tend to be deficient in T. Medical level ie low supplements generally have a calming effect.

    The roid rage syndrome comes about because it involves massive doses of the hormone.

    The link between testosterone and aggression is undeserved and is more likely an old wives – or more likely feminists – tale.

    Comment by gwallan — Wed 27th January 2010 @ 11:16 pm

  12. No hormone is unique to either gender.

    The sense I’ve got over the years is that imbalanced hormones are causal of aggression in both genders.

    Comment by gwallan — Wed 27th January 2010 @ 11:21 pm

  13. Reply to Keen Skier

    ‘Like Testosterone? Stirs up aggression?’……L.M.A.O …Your statement of above reminds me of a typical Kiwi Feminist brainwashing propaganda spin doctoring crap ….!!!!
    Oh,and do your Homework here Keen Skier….In the Second world war in Nazi Germany, in the Nazi extermination camps some of the most evilest personal in those Extermination camps ….Were ‘Woman’…….So please spare me your Kiwi Socail Engineering Feminist brainwashing propaganda,try it on some else….Not me…!! …

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Thu 28th January 2010 @ 7:00 am

  14. This is for you ‘Keen Skier’…

    So I ‘provocative’…and use ‘Extreme’ language do I.???… Well Keen Skier read below on what prominent and famous Feminists have been citing to the media and preaching sinse 1968 ..

    There Extreme social engineering Feminism has been so call taught in Universities in New Zealand…

    And the first paragraph below I have to agree to the Author as written…

    I eagerly await your reply ‘Keen Skier’,to justify and to clarify the written Feminists comments below,thank you so kindly

    Tongue in Cheek….. Keen Skier….So nice as a Man to be liberated by Feminism…..Like Hell it is….!!!!!

    Kind regards to you Keen Skier from John Dutchie

    These are actual quotes from a variety of mainstream feminists, stating their opinions and positions. The one common denominator is the obvious and blatant hatred of men. No reputable Father’s Rights advocate could get away with making statements such as these- any man daring to say these kinds of things about women would instantly be branded a “gender-supremacist”.

    “When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression…” Sheila Jeffrys .

    “Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies.” Andrea Dworkin

    “Sex is the cross on which women are crucified … Sex can only be adequately defined as universal rape.” Hodee Edwards, ‘Rape defines Sex’

    “MAN: … an obsolete life form… an ordinary creature who needs to be watched … a contradictory baby-man …”
    “TESTOSTERONE POISONING: … ‘Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from ‘testosterone poisoning.'” from A Feminist Dictionary”, ed. Kramarae and Treichler, Pandora Press, 1985

    “Patriarchy requires violence or the subliminal threat of violence in order to maintain itself… The most dangerous situation for a woman is not an unknown man in the street, or even the enemy in wartime, but a husband or lover in the isolation of their home.” Gloria Steinem in Revolution from Within: A Book of Self-Esteem, pp. 259-61..

    “Women take their roles of caretakers very seriously and when they hear of someone who’s taken advantage of a child, they react more strongly than men do.” – Kathleen C. Faller, professor of social work at the University of Michigan

    “I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which a man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it.” – Former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan

    “Under patriarchy, no woman is safe to live her life, or to love, or to mother children. Under patriarchy, every woman is a victim, past, present, and future. Under patriarchy, every woman’s daughter is a victim, past, present, and future. Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman,” Andrea Dworkin, Liberty, p.58..

    “The fact is that the process of killing – both rape and battery are steps in that process- is the prime sexual act for men in reality and/or in imagination.”. Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 22..

    “Man’s discovery that his genitalia could serve as a weapon to generate fear must rank as one of the most important discoveries of prehistoric times, along with the use of fire, and the first crude stone axe.” Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape, p. 5..

    “The newest variations on this distressingly ancient theme center on hormones and DNA: men are biologically aggressive; their fetal brains were awash in androgen; their DNA, in order to perpetuate itself, hurls them into murder and rape.” Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 114..

    When asked: “You [Greer] were once quoted as saying your idea of the ideal man is a woman with a dick. Are you still that way inclined?”
    Dr Greer (denying that she said it): “I have a great deal of difficulty with the idea of the ideal man. As far as I’m concerned, men are the product of a damanged gene. They pretend to be normal but what they’re doing sitting there with benign smiles on their faces is they’re manufacturing sperm. They do it all the time. They never stop. I mean, we women are more reasonable. We pop one follicle every 28 days, whereas they are producing 400 million sperm for each ejaculation, most of which don’t take place anywhere near an ovum. I don’t know that the ecosphere can tolerate it.” Germaine Greer, at a Hilton Hotel literary lunch, promoting her book #34; The Change– Women, Aging and the Menopause#34; . From a newsreport dated 14/11/91

    “One can know everything and still be unable to accept the fact that sex and murder are fused in the male consciousness, so that the one without the imminent possibly of the other is unthinkable and impossible.” Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 21..

    “Cosmetic surgery and the ideology of self-improvement may have made women’s hope for legal recourse to justice obsolete.” Naomi Wolf, The Beauty Myth, p. 55..

    “Sex as desired by the class that dominates women is held by that class to be elemental, urgent, necessary, even if or even though it appears to require the repudiation of any claim women might have to full human standing. In the subordination of women, inequality itself is sexualized, made into the experience of sexual pleasure, essential to sexual desire.” Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 265..

    “AIDS education will not get very far until young men are taught how not to rape young women and how to eroticize trust and consent; and until young women are supported in the way they need to be redefining their desires.” Naomi Wolf, The Beauty Myth, p. 168..

    “In everything men make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, still their sobs as they mourn the empitness and alienation of their lives.” Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 214..

    “One of the reasons that women are kept in a state of economic degradation- because that’s what it is for most women- is because that is the best way to keep women sexually available.” Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 145..

    “Romance is rape embellished with meaningful looks.” Andrea Dworkin in the Philadelphia Inquirer, May 21, 1995..

    “Ninety-five percent of women’s experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive…women didn’t go to Vietnam and blow up things up. They are not Rambo.” Jodie Foster in The New York Times Magazine, January 6, 1991, p. 19..

    “All men are rapists and that’s all they are.” Marilyn French in People, February 20, 1983..

    “All men benefit from rape, because all men benefit from the fact that women are not free in this society; that women cower; that women are afraid; that women cannot assert the rights that we have, limited as those rights are, because of the ubiquitous presence of rape.” Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 142..

    “Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometime gain from the experience.” Catherine Comins, Vassar College Assistant Dean of Student Life in Time, June 3, 1991, p. 52..

    “We have long known that rape has been a way of terrorizing us and keeping us in subjection. Now we also know that we have participated, although unwittingly, in the rape of our minds.” Historian Gerda Lerner in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women, p. 55..

    “Only with the occasional celebrity crime do we allow ourselves to think the nearly unthinkable: that the family may not be the ideal and perfect living arrangement after all – that it can be a nest of pathology and a cradle of gruesome violence,… Even in the ostensibly “functional,” nonviolent family, where no one is killed or maimed, feelings are routinely bruised and often twisted out of shape. There is the slap or the put-down that violates a child’s shaky sense of self, the cold, distracted stare that drives a spouse to tears, the little digs and rivalries… Barbara Ehrenreich in Time Magazine

    “The nuclear family is a hotbed of violence and depravity.” Gordon Fitch

    “How will the family unit be destroyed? …[T]he demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare.” Roxanne Dunbar in Female Liberation

    “Feminists have long criticized marriage as a place of oppression, danger, and drudgery for women. Barbara Findlen, “Is Marriage the Answer? Ms Magazine, May – June, 1995

    “We can’t destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage. Robin Morgan, from Sisterhood Is Powerful (ed), 1970, p. 537

    “Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership. Only when manhood is dead–and it will perish when ravaged femininity no longer sustains it” Andrea Dworkin

    “The cultural institutions which embody and enforce those interlocked aberrations–for instance, law, art, religion, nation-states, the family, tribe, or commune based on father-right–these institutions are real and they must be destroyed.” Andrea Dworkin

    “I was struck by what a beneficial alternative to the nuclear family this arrangement [communal housing and child raising] was for these women and children.” Lenore Walker, after visiting one of the early shelters for battered women, as cited in The Battered Woman, p.195

    “The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together…. Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process…. No woman should have to deny herself any opportunities because of her special responsibilities to her children… Families will be finally destroyed only when a revolutionary social and economic organization permits people’s needs for love and security to be met in ways that do not impose divisions of labor, or any external roles, at all.” Linda Gordon, “Functions of the Family,” WOMEN: A Journal of Liberation, Fall, 1969

    “God is going to change. We women… will change the world so much that He won’t fit anymore.” Naomi Goldenberg, Changing of the Gods: Feminism and the End of Traditional Religions (Quoted at beginning of From Father God to Mother Earth)

    “We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men…” Elizabeth Stanton, One Woman, One Vote, Wheeler, p. 58

    “Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don’t like it, bad luck – and if you get in my way I’ll run you down.” Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia. (Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia – 9 February 1996)

    “God is going to change. We women… will change the world so much that He won’t fit anymore.” Naomi Goldenberg, Changing of the Gods: Feminism and the End of Traditional Religions (Quoted at beginning of From Father God to Mother Earth)

    “We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men…” Elizabeth Stanton, One Woman, One Vote, Wheeler, p. 58

    “Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don’t like it, bad luck – and if you get in my way I’ll run you down.” Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia. (Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia – 9 February 1996)

    Comment by John Dutchie — Thu 28th January 2010 @ 12:53 pm

  15. I am impresed at your wide reading John.
    You have dates on only some of these. Do you detect any changes over time? or location or ethnicity?
    The latest Next magazine has an article by Rosemary McCleod that suggests younger women reject this view as a 1970’s anacronism.

    Last time I went past the Bendon store they had huge quantities of protest fuel and it must be 1972 when I last heard of a brassiere actually being consigned to the brazier.

    Comment by Methuselah — Thu 28th January 2010 @ 5:40 pm

  16. Someone should explain in simple words to Dr? (damaged gene)Greer that the difference between chimps and humans is a matter of approx 3%, mostly on the Y chromosome. Take an average chimp and an average woman and compare the genes and it is largely a difference in the amount of hair produced.

    Comment by amfortas — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 12:05 am

  17. “When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression…” Sheila Jeffrys .

    We’ve come a long way since then. Now it’s an orgasm gap. And of course men are to blame…

    The New Frontier in Misandry: The ‘Orgasm Gap’ – Robert Franklin.

    Comment by gwallan — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 3:25 am

  18. I still waiting for your reply Keen Skier …..After all, can’t you tell be those lovely and charming Feminist quotes were ….

    ‘A higher level of courtesy and debate’. Their members actually listen.’

    Reply to Methuselah

    I can’not take the credit here Good Sir,my Dutch Lady Amsterdam Police Officer friend put me on these Feminists quotes on the Web….Damn scary reading,do Google search ‘Hateful Feminists quotes’ you will find even more scarier Feminists quotes that I did not post on ‘Menz’
    These Feminists quotes were made from 1968 to 1996….But what really concerns me these ‘Feminists Opinions'(I call it Extreme Feminism brainwashing propaganda) are still being taught by some Universities in N.Z, to students by Extreme Social Engineering Feminist tutors….

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 7:11 am

  19. Maybe these quotes are being talked about by some NZ academics. I spent quite a few years teaching in NZ Universities and while some of this stuff existed in the 2 institutions I taught at there was an ecclectic collection of other views. Some might say that Stuart at Massey provides part of the balance. His research provides useful data to conter such nonsense.

    Peter Zohrab acieved his LLB and is currently beavering away at psychology in NZ univesities. I doubt you could say he has been cowered from his views by the likes of these academics even though he has done some of the “radical” papers. Peter’s difficulties with the Law Society seem more to do with a closed shop than academia. Personally I find some of his views as rabid as those you quoted.

    Can I please ask that John stop seeking to bait Keen Skier and others to respond to his agenda. The beauty of a blog is sharing with other ; not creating tensions and seeking to put words into the mouths of others. This is unhelpful and stifles debate, communication and sharing.

    Comment by Methuselah — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 9:51 am

  20. Reply to Methuselah

    …’Baiting’….Hmmmmmm….Sometimes on what you said good sir … ‘Baiting’….. is required to get an debate going…

    One thing I have notice in my journey of Life and especially with ‘Academics’……..

    If you being up an issue that not in the mainstream of thinking, you as student get ‘shot to pieces’…

    Like a Lady friend of I know who did a paper in 2004 at Auckland University on the effects extreme feminism in N.Z and how it has damaged Manhood,Fatherhood and more important The Family unit ….

    This fine Lady got ‘slaughtered’ by you Academics, to quote the famous words used by Academics at some Universities on my Lady friend paper concerning the effect of Extreme Feminism…..’Totally Inappropriate’…..That good sir ‘stifles debate, communication and sharing.’

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 10:15 am

  21. A question for you Methuselah

    ‘To respond to his agenda.’….Pray tell me good Sir/Madam what is my so called Agenda…????????
    You have made a statement on a forum ….concerning my ‘Agenda’…..So please if you wouldn’t mind, enlightening me …I all ears on this one…thank you
    Oh,at a particular University two years ago, my young Adult Son had a heated debate with a Feminist who stated ‘All Men are potential Rapists and Potential Pedophiles’….Has he also a hidden Agenda ….???????

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 10:30 am

  22. Reply to Gwallen

    ………..I have read The ‘Orgasm Gap’ article that you recommended …..L.M.A.O …….You are correct good sir,as in…. Here we go again, as per usual …. ‘Its the Mans fault’…Yet again ….L.O.L….

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 11:20 am

  23. Perhaps you could answer that question best yourself John.
    It would seem your agenda may be to shout down others whose views you find unpleasantly moderate? Maybe to stifle or censor debate?
    If people have views different than our own sometimes we can learn something or expand our thinking.
    As I understand it this site is to encourage debate not close it down. I attach three of your quotes below for you to consider if they are designed to open or close debate.

    So please spare me your Kiwi Socail Engineering Feminist brainwashing propaganda,try it on some else….Not me…!! …

    I still waiting for your reply Keen Skier …..After all, can’t you tell be those lovely and charming Feminist quotes were ….

    Oh,really Allan….????… And what about the Kiwi Social Engineering Feminists,as in stereotyping all Men and Fathers…To be the most evillest ‘Scrum of the Earth’…..

    Comment by Methuselah — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 1:44 pm

  24. …Pardon…As in ‘Answer the question John’,I will Sir or Madam…????

    I so called ‘Shout down’ others do I…?????.
    Hmmmmmmm….I think not…But that is your opinion and it is your right to express an opinion and so be it..And I will always defend your right to express an opinion.. …

    Or is it, as my Gut Feeling is telling me the real reason is thus … You have a problem with my expressing an ‘blunt’ opinion of ‘Extreme Socail Engineering Feminism’…..?????

    ….On, your comment ‘Maybe to stifle or censor debate?’…That comment reminds of typical ‘Spin’ of an government department employee………So,do I take it, you are a employee from ‘the Ministry of Woman’s affairs’..??

    Kind regards to you…How please accept my humble apology to you if you felt I have ‘Shouted you down’…

    John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 2:14 pm

  25. Oh Methuselah…..

    You missed another thread that I posted… It is below for you to appraise…I think you could define also as ‘To stifle or censor debate?’ ….Yes….????

    ‘What happen to Peter Ellis was nothing more then a Kiwi Feminazi Social Engineering Witch hunt,and I have a guts full of the last 25 years in N.Z of this Feminist Socail Engineering crap,where Manhood and Fatherhood as been Demonized to hell and back,and in 23 months I am gone from N.Z…!!!

    And I meant every word what I wrote and will I apologize for what I express as in a ‘opinion’….No

    Kind regards to you Methuselah…John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 2:42 pm

  26. Yes I believe you do. Good debate requires listening. Have’nt noticed much of that. I am not interested in that type of debate.

    We can all introduce quotes: Have you visited Stuart Birks Gender Page.

    Consider this: Erin Pizzey founder of the first Women’s Refuge in the UK in 1971 said in 2007.
    “This has nothing to do with domestic violence, this is the feminist movement which is basically hijacking the subject because it is a worthy cause” in their terms, and also they wanted the funding because they couldn’t get funding as open feminists, but what they have managed to do is to turn it into a billion dollar industry, which has effectively destroyed family life in the Western world and feminised the courts, the law, everything else in its wake, and the result is that there’s millions of men who have been falsely accused, who have lost their children, who have been extradited from their families.”

    I am rewarded to see real women doing what they do best and nurturing the men emotionially devastated by women.

    Comment by Keen Skier — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 2:48 pm

  27. Thanks for agreeing to let us all know your agenda, John.
    I look forward to that post.
    I never said you shouted people down just that that was how your posts might be percieved.
    I am so old and deaf that I read much better than I hear.
    If Pansy Wong wishes to employ me it would be double dipping with my pension.

    Comment by Methuselah — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 2:49 pm

  28. Reply to Keen Skier …

    First off, I do sincerely apologize to you if I come across Blunt and Forthright towards you ….But it is not meant to be personal at all towards you….And I do really mean this I am glad you are on here…Again I do apologize to you….

    An awesome post… ‘I am rewarded to see real women doing what they do best and nurturing the men emotionally devastated by women.’

    …….Guess what Keen Skier….’Yippee’….I concur with you….Curious does that find Lady have her own web site….And the reason why …I personally who like to send her an ‘Thank you’ email…

    Kind regards to you Keen Skier…John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 29th January 2010 @ 3:20 pm

  29. ‘Thanks for agreeing to let us all know your agenda,’ John.

    Methuselah,I will tell you what my so called ‘Agenda’ is here in N.Z….’Tongue in Cheek’ and just ‘stirring the pot’…And it is in best interest’ of the Kiwi Socail engineering Feminists too

    1/ To protect my Son from Kiwi Socail Engineering Feminism/Feminists….

    2/ Once my Son has completed his University Degree and departs N.Z back to Europe,which he intends to do…I gone too….!!!!

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Sun 31st January 2010 @ 9:05 am

  30. I can’t speak to the agendas in NZ universities. Over my side of the pond I do know that future welfare and/or social workers are being taught that male victims of abuse should not be believed. This is occurring in at least two post secondary schools in my state alone.

    It’s one thing for feminist ideology to be presented in classrooms but when it extends to the deliberate, institutionalised marginalisation of victims of abuse it is a thing of extraordinary prejudice.

    It is the teaching of a prejudice that impinges directly on the lives of men and boys who have been harmed and will be denied necessary help because of that teaching.

    This is no “1970’s anacronism” as you put it. It is happening today.

    Comment by gwallan — Sun 31st January 2010 @ 10:57 am

  31. Oh, the Feminism topic …

    Comment by onewomanDV — Sun 31st January 2010 @ 4:34 pm

  32. Thanks for providing that video link onewomanDV. The woman speaking makes a lot of sense.

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Sun 31st January 2010 @ 4:53 pm

  33. great video , thanks

    Comment by martins — Sun 31st January 2010 @ 8:44 pm

  34. Awesome video. I like her comment about victim mentality too.
    What’s the email of the ministry of woman affairs ? I think they might like to listen to a woman…

    Comment by noconfidence — Sun 31st January 2010 @ 9:38 pm

  35. Reply to noconfidence

    …Google search ‘The Ministry of Woman’s affairs’ you will find they have a email address on there website…

    ‘Tongue in Cheek’… I was going to email that video to ‘The Ministry of Men’s affairs’ of New Zealand but there isn’t one …..Hmmmmmmmmmmm…..I wonder why that is…???????

    Also can you image the outcry from the Kiwi Feminists if that find young Lady would release that video here in New Zealand she would have been slaughtered and burnt at the stake as an ‘Heathen’…..

    After watching that video,am I so looking forward to leaving N.Z,hopefully in 2 years time..Correct….. I am in countdown mode…..Yippee….!!!!!

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Mon 1st February 2010 @ 12:09 pm

  36. Leave NZ and go where? The sickness of feminism is a worldwide plague. New Zealand is a stunningly beautiful land fit for hermits.

    Comment by amfortas — Mon 1st February 2010 @ 12:27 pm

  37. reply to amfortas

    ….You are sadly mistaken good Sir….Extreme social engineering Feminism hasn’t hit all of Europe….But the latest European Country hit by ‘Femi Nazism’ is Spain,there is a bit of turmoil happening there but the Spanish Men were quick to counter act this Feminism social engineering, as in been so called Liberated by Feminism….

    Just ‘Tongue in Cheek’ and ‘stirring the Pot’ here….May be Allan,who as stated on Menz,that He has liberated by feminism, from the union of Fathers should head off to Spain, to explain to them Evil Male Chauvinist sexist Spanish Men the wonders and the pure joy of been liberated by ‘Feminism’…I am sure ‘Peter Ellis’ will concur too….!!!!!!

    No, I heading back to Thailand to permanently live there, I worked there for 18 months as an Engineer in 1993 and return in 2000 for 2 months to see all of my Thailand friends and there families…And I fell in love with Thailand, and the Thai people,you might be very surprises on how many Western European English speaking people from all walks of Life live permanently in Thailand.

    I can tell right now the Thai people will not have a bar of Feminism….Oh, the Western European Socail Engineering Feminists have tried on a few occasions and have failed miserably…they were not exactly welcomed in Thailand.

    The Thai people are not stupid people,and I wouldn’t advise to ever to underestimated the Thai people and the Thai culture,they know a lot about the Feminist destruction it has caused in the the following Western European Countries…listed in order is which Country I perceived to be ‘Feminize’

    1/ Canada
    2/ America
    3/ Sweden…Oh,The Swedish Feminists in the late nineties wanted to make a law that Men had to sit down while they urinated for the Swedish Feminists felt Men standing up while urinating was Sexual intimating to Womanhood…Do a Google search ….If you don’t believe me…..

    4/ New Zealand
    5/ Australia

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Mon 1st February 2010 @ 1:14 pm

  38. I am mistaken, John? By the Lord Harry. It just February the first and I don’t usually get around to making a mistake untl August at least.

    So, you are going to run to Thailand where all is sweetness and harmony. We are at war. Engage the enemy; don’t run to the barber-shop for a realxing facial.

    Comment by amfortas — Mon 1st February 2010 @ 1:50 pm

  39. Reply to amfortas

    …..Run away….Good Sir,I have engaged the ‘Enemy’ for over 25 years…And now its time for me, to enjoy Life, without living Life in Fear, because of all the extreme social engineering Feminism that as occurred in N.Z for the last 25 years and I will not mince my words on my opinion ….Where Manhood and Fatherhood have been Demonized to Hell …

    Last year on my birthday I saw a young Girl walking on a busy main road Crying and very distraught…Did I stop and check to see if she was alright and and if need be ,offer her comfort ….No way….!!! …And ‘Why’ didn’t I stop ….???The Fear of the finger been pointed at me, as in I am potential Pedophile ….I did phone Police to inform of the situation ….The Police Lady who I spoke too on the phone ask me if I have check on the young Girl demeanor…I said ‘Pardon,you got to kidding me Lady..So you can charge me of inappropriate behavior on a minor…No thanks’…..

    And also what happen to my Ex Brother on been falsely accused of inappropriate behavior on his two daughters,
    by his ex partner…..and seeing a Good Man and a Decent Father destroyed by the Feminize Justice System of N.Z…And to hear from his Defense Barrister that this is a common practice in N.Z of ‘False accusation’ on good Men and decent Fathers….By Kiwi Woman….Do I want or my Son go through that ‘Hell’…..No way….!!!!!..

    You might be very surprised how many other Men I have spoken too who are giving up on Kiwi Woman and are looking elsewhere for a future partner…Can I blame them…No….In fact good on them….Do you good sir, want live Life in Fear..????.I think not….and neither do I….Enough is Enough…..

    Oh Thailand has it problems and its not perfect…But at least I will not Live Life in Fear ….Hope you understand

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Tue 2nd February 2010 @ 8:12 am

  40. Why-I-m-thinking-gay-marriage-can-be-OK

    and this is where those thoughts ended up…

    Wouldn’t some people live better lives as well looked after slaves than if they were left to their own devices? I’m sure there would be even better arguments on this subject than about homosexuality.

    And that was from a New Zealand minister of religion.

    Comment by Down Under — Wed 16th January 2013 @ 6:04 am

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