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The Tide Is Turning

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:57 pm Thu 21st January 2010

Here’s an interesting article from Carey Roberts, a US “commentator on political correctness”. He describes how the Democrat (Obama’s) candidate lost the recent Massachusetts senate election because she previously discriminated against a male and tried to keep him, but not females convicted of the same offences, in prison for sexual convictions based on ridiculous evidence, similar to but even more ridiculous than our Peter Ellis case. The US public appears to be losing respect for male-bashing women, and that will increasingly happen in NZ too. Robers writes: “Prosecuting innocent men for crimes they didn’t commit is no longer the sure-fire formula to electoral success it once appeared to be.”


  1. ….Reply to Hans….

    …….Do I detect a glimmer of ‘light at the of the Tunnel’…Hmmmmmm….I think there is….
    …..When I have debates with Extreme New Zealand Social E Feminists….
    This is a question that I always ask ‘Would you recommend to your ‘Son’ to become a Male School here in New Zealand…????’….And the answer I usually received…..Deathly silence…
    Then I ask them ‘What is your opinion of the Peter Ellis case,and have you the book A City Possessed

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 7:06 am

  2. ….Bugger ….Hit the wrong key ….Again….L.O.L…To finish off on what I was going to say…

    Then I ask the Feminists ‘What is your opinion of the Peter Ellis case,…?????.Also have you the book called ‘A City Possessed’….???????’…..Usually after I have mentioned this Book ….Again the ‘Silence is deafening’..

    …Enough said….

    Julie thank you for posting on here …and the other Ladies too…And it great to see Ladies voicing and expressing there opinions….

    But a question for you Julie,If you do have a Son…Would you feel comfortable that your Son becomes a ‘Male’ school Teacher here in New Zealand….???????

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 7:18 am

  3. That sounds like an interesting referenda question. Best worded as it is since the government doesn’t listen to normal referendum questions (they are too complicatedly worded for them, poor things!)

    Tick yes or no…
    Would you feel comfortable if your son became a ‘Male’ school Teacher here in New Zealand.

    I think I hear another referendum landslide coming!

    Comment by noconfidence — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 10:05 am

  4. Just read this article.. I know what would happen if this was a male doing it….

    Comment by noconfidence — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 10:08 am

  5. She’s a sick b!tch. If that happened to a woman there would probably be attempted rape charges and an excuse to further demonize all men.

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 10:13 am

  6. There’s a video on Youtube of the incident.

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 10:17 am

  7. Wow…..what a interesting morning….

    First I went to my local Cafe in Titiranga

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 10:59 am

  8. Wow…..What a interesting morning….Oh, reply to ‘Noconfience’…Very witty Good Sir…..Well Done…L.O.L

    Firstly, I went to my local Cafe in Titirangi Township for my usual Double shot flat white with ‘Full Milk’,none of this ‘Trim Milk’ Crap….Yuk…!!!!!
    I bump into again a young Lady from Poland,in her late Twenties to early thirties who as lived in New Zealand for who I have met at my particular Cafe a few times before….Anyway She joined me for a Coffee this time…And Yes and she is was ‘Hot’….
    ‘Tongue in Cheek’ after saying this,I bet ya some Kiwi ‘Butch’ Feminists will most properly call me now a ‘Evil Male sexual predator’ and a ‘Potential Rapist’ as well….!!!!
    This Lady from Poland asked me if I was Dutch for she detected my slight Dutch accent….I said yes ‘ I was born in N.Z,but I had the privilege and honor of living and working in The Netherlands for Six years as a young Man…So how do you find N.Z…????’
    My Coffee spurted out of my mouth so hard… when she said the following ‘This Country is so F@#ked up with this Political Correctness bullshit,and why are Kiwi Woman so damn Nasty and Spiteful,also why are they so ‘Butch’.???..No wonder this Country as a Man drought…!!!…And ‘No’ I didn’t get her Phone number….Bugger…..I was still in a state of ‘Shell’ shock on what this Lady from Poland had just said.!!!!!.But next time when I ‘bump’ into her again, I will ask….

    Second episode …..I had a appointment at a Ear specialist in Lincoln road,Henderson to get my Ears de-waxed ….The Ear Nurse,who was doing the Ear de-waxing procudure was in her Late forties a lovely Lady too,might I had…
    She mentioned her Husband was once a Male Teacher….Not anymore …I said.. ‘Did He get out of been a Male School Teacher because of the Peter Ellis Case’…..She reply with ‘Yes’…I did not mince my words with her on my opinion….
    ‘What happen to Peter Ellis was nothing more then a Kiwi Feminazi Social Engineering Witch hunt,and I have a guts full of the last 25 years in N.Z of this Feminist Socail Engineering crap,where Manhood and Fatherhood as been Demonized to hell and back,and in 23 months I am gone from N.Z…!!!
    She look at me….and she said in a quiet voice….’I don’t blame you for wanting to leave N.Z,if I was a decent Man,I would too…But John I have a teenage Son and I truly understand what you are saying…I don’t want my Son to stay in N.Z either when he becomes a grown Man….I truly know how anti Man this Country has become…’
    I apologized to this Fine Lady on my bluntness and give this fantastic Kiwi Lady a hug….
    Gentleman there some Fine Kiwi Ladies that are also equally concerned with all this Feminist social Engineering…..

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 11:49 am

  9. In reply to John

    Yes I agree that there are nice females who will not jump on the man hating band wagon but they do not hold significant positions of power so cannot have any real influence. I imagine this was not your point but nevertheless its an important one. I have struggled to not tar all females with the same brush because of my hidious experiences in the FC’s. I now tend to label them as scum feminests until they prove otherwise – yes ironic isnt it cause thats exactly what females do but alas- I’m working on it

    Comment by Paul MacKay — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 12:01 pm

  10. Reply to ‘noconfidence’

    ‘Just read this article.. I know what would happen if this was a male doing it….’

    …..’Sheer Hell’ would have broken Loose …The Socail Engineering Feminists would have a field day with the Media…Like such……
    ‘This Woman is the Victim from a hideous crime committed by Evil Male Chauvinist Sexists pigs,and she will definitely need counseling on how all Men/Fathers are all Potential Rapists and Potential Pedophiles’…’Tongue in Cheek’ Am I correct Ladies….??????????

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 1:26 pm

  11. Reply to Paul

    Bang…!!!!…Right on the money Paul with your statement below…Furthermore if any Woman doesn’t toe the ‘Feminazi’ tune…They are then chastised and ridicule….

    ‘Yes I agree that there are nice females who will not jump on the man hating band wagon but they do not hold significant positions of power so cannot have any real influence.

    I will post tomorrow a story of a Lady student Friend of mine of her experience at Auckland University, who sided on Men and Fathers on paper she wrote concerning Extreme Feminism and the social harm it as done to New Zealand Society

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 1:50 pm

  12. She should have been charged with something. He should have taken action.

    It makes no sense that he did not go after her to make a point that that is criminal behavior. Fans should write emails to make it a point that if people like him do not say anything then many more people will simply endure things like this and enable double standards.

    Comment by onewomanDV — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 3:16 pm

  13. Hi John Dutchie,

    question for you Julie,If you do have a Son…Would you feel comfortable that your Son becomes a ‘Male’ school Teacher here in New Zealand….???????

    I have 2 sons and I wouldn’t be comfortable with them becoming school teachers. I also worry about their relations with females.

    Comment by julie — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 4:48 pm

  14. Hi Paul,
    I too think as you do where you state –
    “Yes I agree that there are nice females who will not jump on the man hating band wagon but they do not hold significant positions of power so cannot have any real influence”.
    Especially the first part of that statement.
    The second part about women not holding significant positions of power I have a different view on.
    Since this thread is entitled ‘The tide is turning’ I think it’s timely to outline the power that women who aren’t in significant positions of power (your common or garden everyday woman if you will)have that men in NZ DON’T have.
    Such examination shows that whilst some are shifting thier attitudes and behavior towards men, just how much the tide has yet to turn for men in NZ to get a fair shake.
    Others can and might wish to add to the list so folks can get a fuller sense of this. Besides which I’m soon due for an appointment and must buzz off.

    So in no particular order – The tide of privelige :

    NZ women have the power to unilaterally choose to kill unborn children despite the fact the father is perfectly willing and able to raise the child should it be born and many couples desperately would like to adopt a child.

    NZ women have the power to divorce their husband/partner and claim child support which they don’t have to account for the spending of.

    NZ women have the power to have a man arrested and placed under a restraing order preventing him from entering his own home without having to offer up any real evidence nor even meeting the judge in person.

    NZ women have the power to get ALL the perks of modern day ‘democracy’ whilst by law being spared military service when the country is at war (1951 Miliary Act – never been amended or repealed).

    NZ Women have the power to avoid putting the name of thier children’s father on a birth certificate.

    NZ women have the power to contact thier own sex specific Ministry of women’s affairs. The same can’t be said of NZ men. Likewise other governemt funded advocay agencies for women including women’s studies departments in universities who have lecturers that regularly help shape governement policy for women.

    NZ women have the power to get a FREE or heavily subsidized breast and cervical cancer screening test because government funds these things whilst not putting the equivalent into researching effective means of screening for testicular and prostrate cancer. (some men get breast cancer too).

    NZ women have the power to commit similar crimes to men and get more lenient sentences or even aquittal on the grounds of numerous questionable excuses such as battered women’s syndrome.

    NZ women have the power to spend the major portion of thier lives being billetted, fed and entertained all at the expense of the taxpayer (you and me) by getting pregnant several times, then after a brief period of a few years part time work getting a state pension.

    Like I said before this list is far from exhaustive, but simply off the top of my head a scrambled off in a few minutes.

    By all means please add to this list so we can all get a sense of how high the tide of NZ women’s entitlement is that still needs to turn.

    Comment by Skeptik — Fri 22nd January 2010 @ 8:55 pm

  15. Reply to Julie

    ….Julie thank you so much for your honesty…My humble respect and admiration to you.
    I too have a young adult Son …..Like you Julie I worry also for him….But fortunately my young adult Son is very careful and extremely cautious with young N.Z Woman…
    Even his English Grand Mother as advised her Grandson not to get involved with N.Z Woman…. Really sad Julie, if you think about the bigger picture here…
    Also my young adult Son as been to Europe,experienced living and working over in Europe for 18 months,networking and meeting all different cultures,races etc from all over the World…
    When my Son came back to start University here in Auckland last year.
    My Son said to me ..’Dad,I understand now, and yes,my eyes have been truly open,there is a huge difference between European Woman and Kiwi Woman’
    So once he is finished his degree here in N.Z …My Son will be returning to Europe,can I blame him Julie….????….No…I can not…..Do I want my Son to stay in N.Z and marry a Kiwi Woman ….Who knows the system is totally on ‘Her’ side,and can point the finger at my Son, with out any proof whats so ever and destroy his Life for ever….Absolutely ‘Not’…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Kind regards to you Julie …John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Sat 23rd January 2010 @ 1:00 pm

  16. Regarding Carey Roberts’ article the man who defeated Coakley was Scott Brown. Sen Brown is a co-sponsor of Fathers & Families’ (Glenn Sacks’ group) Shared Parenting Bill.

    MA. Senate Candidate Scott Brown Co-Sponsored F & F’s Shared Parenting Bill

    There is more to his victory than the Fells Acre Day School travesty.

    Comment by gwallan — Sat 23rd January 2010 @ 10:23 pm

  17. Hi Julie

    And Hi, to the rest of the Ladies,this includes all the Gentleman on here as well..My Lady barrister Friend put me onto this Website….see below..


    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Mon 25th January 2010 @ 11:03 am

  18. Good news from the uk today…

    Comment by noconfidence — Mon 25th January 2010 @ 11:13 am

  19. oops.. somehow the link didn’t get attached. I need to work on my html skills lol!!!

    Judge orders boy, 11, to live with his father that he hasn’t seen in 7 years

    Comment by noconfidence — Mon 25th January 2010 @ 8:14 pm

  20. I even got that link wrong.. groan!
    At least I know when I made a mistake unlike some government agencies 😉

    Judge orders boy, 11, to live with his father that he hasn’t seen in 7 years

    btw… don’t forget to click on the comment arrows to show whether you approve of them or disapprove…

    Comment by noconfidence — Mon 25th January 2010 @ 8:22 pm

  21. It seems that some Judges are finally wising up to the misery caused by Parental Alienation on innocent and vulnerable children. Man, some of the ignorant comments on that story are sickening. I ticked the arrows on all of them.

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Mon 25th January 2010 @ 9:17 pm

  22. And a very good morning to everyone.

    A very interesting article in today’s N.Z Herald website….And some very astute comments have been posted….Worthwhile reading

    ‘Do women have unrealistic expectations for potential partners?’……N.Z Herald website

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Wed 27th January 2010 @ 8:15 am

  23. Reply to Noconfidence….Thank you, very interesting and fascinating article to read Good sir on the…’Judge orders boy, 11, to live with his father that he hasn’t seen in 7 years’…

    However,can anyone spot the ‘interesting’ comment that this Lady made in her press statement….

    Kind regards to all John Dutchie

    ‘Miranda Fisher, of London solicitors Charles Russell, said later that the activities of groups such as Fathers 4 Justice had tipped the balance — and courts were taking a tougher line on parents who denied contact between their children and their ex-partners.

    She explained: ‘Twenty or 30 years ago it was not the normal expectation that fathers should be involved in looking after the children. Now more mothers have full-time careers and fathers are increasingly wanting to share in caring.’

    Comment by John Dutchie — Wed 27th January 2010 @ 11:06 am

  24. The Family Courts have ignored or colluded with parental alienation for so long, but now that they finally start to take it seriously they still can’t be sensible. To rip a child away from his primary bonded parent like that amounts to serious child abuse. There must be better ways. Putting the mother in prison for disobeying Court orders would have been a good start, allowing the father to bond with the child while she’s in jail. If the Courts had properly enforced access and put in place legal consequences for ongoing disruption of paternal contact or denigration of the father, this ridiculous outcome would never have been necessary. Instead, the Court’s approach ensures lots of future business for itself as well as mental health services for the child.

    Comment by Hans Laven — Wed 27th January 2010 @ 2:05 pm

  25. Yep, teh tide is turning alright.
    People are starting to say these things….here

    Comment by Skeptik — Wed 3rd February 2010 @ 2:47 am

  26. Reply to Skeptik….

    Thank you Steptik,and I did read that article,a very interesting read and I read the following comments/opinions posted by some Americans in reply to that article….
    This American Gentleman sum it so beautifully…Again,and you don’t have to be an ‘Genius’ to work this one out…… Do you see a parallel whats happening America, and here in New Zealand..???..I do…..
    And I will most probably cop some flak for saying this….So be it… I am so glad my Young Adult Son partner,and hopefully his future Wife,this Asia/India Lady as that wonderful strong ‘Femininity’ quality ,and am I happy that my Son hasn’t got involved, as in a relationship with a ‘Kiwi’ Woman.????..
    Damn straight I am….And I will say too…Loud and clear ….. This Lady hasn’t been corrupted and brainwashed by this Western European Kiwi Socail Engineering Feminism ‘I am the victim’ mentally,thus You as the Man…You owe me..!!!!!.
    She definitely has not got the opinion That all ‘Men are potential Rapist and potential Pedophiles’ ……..

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    2010-02-02 at 12:15 pm

    @ Kayla

    Your true feelings toward your son come across loud and clear. You don’t care if he spends the rest of his life in prison as long as your ego isn’t upset that a girl beat up your “protector in training”.

    Sorry to have to break it to you, if you so much as look at a woman wrong in the US you go to jail, hit a girl, no matter what your age, go to jail, get raped by a woman, go to jail and pay child support.

    Women are mainly negligent parents like you. I tell my son to not go near a girl. If anyone hits him it is not OK to hit back, go to an authority. If he is afraid for his life, a very rare occurrence, do what he has to do to defend himself.

    So no, you love yourself more than you love your son, just like child, as pointed out in the article.’

    Comment by John Dutchie — Wed 3rd February 2010 @ 3:05 pm

  27. To John Dutchie…Finally… one of the biggest mile stones I have found about some real change regarding setting up a mens studies academic sections for young men.

    Share this with everyone… Universities in New Zealand must follow suit and set up local departments of Mens Studies…

    Comment by onewomanDV — Sun 14th February 2010 @ 3:34 pm

  28. The excellent information that you’ve posted is worthy of its own thread here IMO.

    Comment by SicKofNZ — Sun 14th February 2010 @ 5:19 pm

  29. Yes SickofNZ, it seems like a great idea…
    Noconfidence do you think this topic merits it’s own thread?

    Comment by onewomanDV — Sun 14th February 2010 @ 7:05 pm

  30. Hi OnewomanNZ;

    You’re also able create a new thread. Just read through the contribution info on the top right hand side. You may need to email John P too.

    Comment by noconfidence — Sun 14th February 2010 @ 8:01 pm

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