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Have there been changes to the DPB or is this just spin?

Filed under: General — Vman @ 5:56 pm Tue 23rd March 2010

It was reported in the NZH that there will be welfare reforms.

In this article it claims that:

“They also involve tightening the requirement procedures for those who repeatedly receive hardship grants, and extend part-time work obligations to domestic purposes beneficiaries with children over six years old.”

Since when have there been part-time work obligations for DPB? Is there any substance to this?

I had a look at WINZ site and all I could find was:

Your obligations

You’ll need to take part in a planning process to help you set goals for your future, including:

  • coming to planning meetings with us and
  • preparing a personal development and employment plan that covers your goals for the future and the things you will do to reach those goals.

You’ll also need to show us that you are committed to reaching your goals.”

This is not really any limitation at all. If fact it simply means you can get free training while staying on the DPB as long as you like.


  1. I thought MP Paula Bennett did well on close-up tonight. I would have liked her to have said some extra things like, “It would be good for single mothers to work part-time to see their self esteem grow” and “The government can make part-time jobs like helping nurses since we are screaming out for them and bringing in nurses from overseas”.

    Like she said, “This has to go through the select committee and won’t be in action till ….”. I think the time she stated was October.

    But it’s not just tax payers who want single mothers working. It’s a goal of feminists and they are doing a lot of planning at the moment.

    Comment by julie — Tue 23rd March 2010 @ 6:48 pm

  2. I’ve always found it quite contrary that on the one hand feminism deems it necessary to push women into paid labour but on the other it argues against any paternal custody at all.

    Comment by gwallan — Tue 23rd March 2010 @ 7:08 pm

  3. I suppose we should be glad it is even being talked about. I think we need to encourage the government to go further and rid us of this scourge.
    There is no need for it.
    In particular this part is a terrible insult:

    “If you are a woman alone aged 50 years or over

    You may be able to get the Domestic Purposes Benefit for women alone, if you:

    * don’t have a partner or dependent children and
    * have, after the age of 50, stopped:
    o caring for a child or children that you have cared for for at least 15 years or
    o caring full-time for a sick relative, that you have cared for, for at least 5 years or
    o being supported by your partner of at least 5 years (but one of you must have lived in New Zealand for some years).

    Comment by Dave — Tue 23rd March 2010 @ 7:17 pm

  4. It’s a hard one to understand but I think Erin Pizzy said it well when she spoke of feminists taking over the domestic violence movement she started.

    There is alot of woman movement but it is all controlled by feminism. The only way around it is to not go mainstream. It’s too late for groups like Plunket and Banardos and Women’s refuges but I think in time women will start pushing back two ways. One will be because they start to push the boundaries feminism has set in humanity work and another will be because men start to be included.

    I also think the men’s movement will help knock feminism out of the game. 🙂

    I’m counting on it as a non feminist because I beleive in both good women and good men.

    Comment by julie — Tue 23rd March 2010 @ 7:19 pm

  5. That is all talk. I know women over the age of 50 whose children became of age and they were not granted what is written. I suppose they could phone the Marxist Union for welfare clients who can protest.

    The group wanted for me to protest with them outside MP Paula Bennett’s office and I stated she is a good role model for single mothers and I’d protest against their protest.

    I went to do this but neither side got to protest because her office was vacant while she was moving elsewhere.

    It’s a funny world sometimes. 😉

    Comment by julie — Tue 23rd March 2010 @ 7:25 pm

  6. Indeed Paula Bennett did well on Close-Up, shame the same cant be said about the host! I digress….

    I think it is a great thing that this topic is coming out and being discussed, do I have high hopes all will be sorted with the mess that is the DPB? NO.

    Everything starts with a thought though…

    Comment by Whafe — Tue 23rd March 2010 @ 8:27 pm

  7. dont women get looked after…i was meant to be a chick i think…theyve got it made ay

    Comment by ford — Tue 23rd March 2010 @ 11:38 pm

  8. Reply to Julie

    Julie 98% of the staff who work at W.I.N.Z are Woman,and I know a ex ‘Male’ staff member who use to be employed at W.I.N.Z……
    Who basically had to ‘resign’ because he did not so called ‘bow down’ to the so called ‘Feminist agenda’ of that particular government department…….
    Hmmmmmmmm…reminds of I.R.D of the ‘Feminists support group’ of Child support department……..

    Kind regards John Dutchie

    Comment by John Dutchie — Wed 24th March 2010 @ 3:19 pm

  9. Here’s a link…

    Apparently the changes breach the human rights act, shame they don’t care about the rest of us.

    Comment by Scott B — Wed 24th March 2010 @ 4:17 pm

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