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Recent Women’s Refuge Poster

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 9:36 pm Tue 4th August 2015

WR poster 0715

So are Women’s Refuge implying that internet trolling and anonymous victimization is something men mainly do to women? All they need to do is visit almost any feminist blog to see the misandrist online violence perpetrated by women, or look through MENZ Issues to read the demeaning, emotionally abusive responses by presumably female feminist trolls to many viewpoints expressed by men.


  1. Yap That’s how those women’s group make their poster.

    Always contains content what generalist man as abuser.

    This is why I do not support white ribbon and any women’s rights movement.

    Comment by shin — Tue 4th August 2015 @ 11:01 pm

  2. There are laws in place to deal with ‘people’ who abuse communications, including the internet.

    There should be a law against women’s refuge demonising men to get a donation.

    All men are bastards – they shouldn’t be allowed WiFi – now give us $10.00 please.

    Comment by Downunder — Wed 5th August 2015 @ 4:03 pm


    Quite a few abusers and bullies are girls and women.
    Getting a good wife for each might just solve a lot of bullying problems???
    Sounds AWFULLY like compulsory gay marriage to me????

    Or will we be only be prosecuting one gender of abuser?
    Shakes his head and wanders off in confusion????

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Wed 5th August 2015 @ 4:41 pm

  4. the $10 koha is for the most abusive sex in relationships, ie WOMAN, to enable them to keep this opportunity to commit further DV available to them….

    Comment by mopardad — Wed 5th August 2015 @ 6:23 pm

  5. I had no previous record and have just served 7 1/2 months in prison for breaching protection orders. Ive had 3 different family court lawyers all fail me in different ways . There was no violence,the protection orders came about after 3 trespassing charges were fabricated. Not once did i speak with the lawyer for the child but he saw fit to express his personal comments about me. I produced a police report which described a scene where the ex lied to police in an attempt to have me arrested,another medical report and photos of a fishing gaff embedded in my skull .the barb penetrating requiring surgery to be removed ,she even took me to the A&E at which i mentioned she did it, No police arrived but had it been the other way around,i decided not to pursue charges as i fesred seeing my 3yr old Austistic son would be more difficult. But then it escalated to tracking software on my phone enabling her to know my gps location in realtime and appear ,kmart, countdown and the local dairy. I hid my phone behind a real estate sign and videoed her arrive and look in all of the shops in the small block,then park 50m away,before long a police car pulled up and the same officer who had arrested me on 4 occasions sat in the passengers seat and chatted for 30min.I later learnt he had asked her out for drinks,nice guy ! When explaining to my family court lawyer and criminal lawyer about the tracking software i was met with comments like “thats james bond shit”! Its very real ,this remotely installable spyware is called RTS,Real Time Spy, it can be purchased online and downloaded then disquised within a “Word ” document and sent as an email once its opened on the targets device it begins relaying the usual keystrokes and screenshots like other brands on the market but this software boasts the only type that is remotely installed,meaning you dont need to physicallly have the device in your hand to download it ,this was not the 1st time,an earlier attempt saw her load Mobile Phone Spy For Android on my galaxy phone but i was made aware when she couldnt help but comment about a text i received from a friend. She managed to clock up 12 charges of me breaching within a few months.i have not seen my sons for almost 2 yrs and i am now on my 4th family court lawyer.ive spent 170k and lost my transport license to operate my business,sold my commercial property and been made to live away from the area .i have no faith in the family court its only purpose is to destroy families. My ex was also running the admin side of my business,holding it for ransom,paying her household bills and even her salary while receiving maternity leave from the govt. Theres instances of assuming false facebook profiles to befriend my new partner and more home invasion style attacks which when reported and recorded on CCTV were fobbed off. In comparison to what ive read on this site i am luckier than most to still have enough money to survive but not enough to continue to fight for my rights.

    Comment by Mike — Wed 5th August 2015 @ 8:52 pm

  6. If the woman’s refuge femms could make sure that the ONLY communications allowed are those that have been approved by the Ministry of Truth, maybe they would be happy? Of course they would be on the panel that approves or prohibits anyone’s thoughts or ideas

    Comment by Fool on the hill — Wed 5th August 2015 @ 11:48 pm

  7. the guy says he doesn’t have enough money to fight for his rights, lets face it – you have none.

    you have had them, you have the right to loose you children, and everything else.

    Comment by paul — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 12:56 am

  8. @5 Sorry to hear about what you’ve been going through Mike, I only spent 50 hours in custody from false accusations and I came out absolutely livid. You’ve been through a hard time alright.
    I cant imagine how you must be feeling. Advice given to me was “don’t do anything stupid that you’ll regret”.As mentioned above your a bloke = you will have no rights.
    There is no such thing as justice in New Zealand for a man especially for a father.
    Perhaps when your ex moves on to destroying the next guys life you might get some time with your son. Mabye its a good thing if she dates that cop.

    Comment by voices back from the bush — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 1:29 am

  9. The picture and the comments become a powerful illustration.

    We want Femi-fascist law we get Femi-fascist law.

    We start to see how politician become so lame they destroy the society they are supposed to run.

    Comment by Downunder — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 7:58 am


    Comment by prouddad — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 9:42 am


    Comment by prouddad — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 9:50 am

  12. I have been separated for almost two years, and still today I’m subject to constant abuse from my ex. Sometimes it is direct in email to me, and sometimes she will post something on facebook in a public group about me. She is clever, because she always says enough for people to know it is me or find me via search, but never directly mentions my name. I constantly get stares from parents at school where my girls go only to hear from them the lies that has been told about me. And when I ask her to stop her lies, I get emails from her lawyer to say I should not contact my ex and I should stop bullying her – what a joke!

    Comment by Been through hell — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 9:53 am

  13. 12. Permitting Provocation – is deliberately designed to get you to REACT – a tactic which has been legalised by this corrupted system. Ignore it, rise above it and never ever REACT – for then they win.

    Get your lawyer to send your ex a letter stating you will take DEFAMATION action if this continues – I had the same problem and as soon as I suggested this, and sent evidence of my concerns – it all stopped immediately.

    Some other advice if it helps keep you safe – trespass them from your property, refuse to ever engage in direct discussion – verbally – only ever communicate in WRITING so what you say is recorded – this protects your from false accusations and lies as are normal.

    Remember the system wants to see you destroyed – your credibility in tatters so no on will ever believe you – getting you so enraged with provocation, intimidation, attacks on your character are all permitted and designed to see you forced to take matters into your own hands – usually and sadly violently – so its so important we do not fall into this purpose built trap.

    Stay calm, walk away, never ever get suckered into reacting. And never feel bad about telling people who you are, what you stand for, what a good person you are – let people judge you by what they see with their own eyes, not the lies disseminated by those wanting to destroy you……

    Comment by hornet — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 10:06 am

  14. Women dont need technology to abuse men.

    They can do this.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 1:21 pm

  15. Hornet, good points. I agree, don’t react. When someone who says bad things about someone, it is more a reflection if them than their target. Everyone judges a person by their actions and who has any time for a gossip or troublemaker? I don’t agree about threatening with defamation though, just because that person can be so self centered, even delusional that they might keep the ‘fight’ going. You would all lose a fortune and could you really trust the courts? Don’t get play their game

    Comment by Fool on the hill — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 1:32 pm

  16. If they do use technology this happens.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 2:48 pm

  17. Well, that’s the depth of Feminism; a man living with his son must be a sex-offender.

    Comment by Downunder — Thu 6th August 2015 @ 9:12 pm

  18. I read with sadness the comments above. Mike, Hornet is right. I won’t regale you with my story-other contributors have seen it before, but needless to say it is similar to yours. Two if my children aged nearly 20 and 16 do not talk to me because they have been saved from my evil clutches by their mother, and are now narcissistic, self absorbed individuals that want little if anything from me other than money. Do not talk on telephones to her except in the event of emergency.
    Keep you old sim and phone for contact with her, but buy a new one for day to day living. Only deal in writing. Trespass her in need, and seek a protection order if her behaviours continue. Get the evidence you need to support such an application. Unfortunately, most of the writers in here share my experience. You have few rights, and will waste a fortune trying to enforce them. Sad but true.Been through hell-i too was ignored, ridiculed and feared based on the BS she spread about me. I was painted out to be a wife beating alcoholic. I enjoy a drink but am far from alcoholic and do not beat people. I was charged with MAF anyway and had to fight for the right to see my children unsupervised. UNSUPERVISED FFS.
    Hornet is once again on point. Show others by your actions what you are about, and keep your head high. Eventually they may come to understand that all is not as represented by her. I had a person we knew as a couple say to me “i think i was wrong in judging you” and to be honest-it was nice but meant little. I wanted to ask him why he judged me without talking to me?? I have been told countless times that “the kids will come back to you” but i fear life is no fairy tale. Now all i hope for is their happiness and contentment and hopefully a meaningful life for them.
    I think it is unproductive to blame women as a whole, as there are some good and bad women, just as there are good and bad men. I do however feel that the system is corrupt, divisive and marginalizes men in children’s lives-that is the outcome of policy and custom and practice, possibly not the intent. Either way, no-one gives a shit about what we say-courts, lawyer for child, police, IRD, MP’s etc. DO not dwell Mike, on how wrong it is because it will mess you up. Get on with your life, do your best, influence what you can and be happy.

    Comment by shafted — Fri 7th August 2015 @ 12:25 pm

  19. Imagine if these women (the ones that thought up this poster) were making the laws for New Zealand?

    Imagine what sort of society that would lead to, yet here is the politician and the political party that was prepared to offer exactly that for a vote.

    Comment by Downunder — Fri 7th August 2015 @ 5:49 pm

  20. Downunder – they don’t need to make the laws to mess up society. They just perpetrate the lies but then again, universities do to. Most domestic violence is women against children and that is really ugly as that is outright bullying against the most helpless. Offending between adults is equal, not one-sided.
    I have always thought feminism is a mental illness and this latest media stunt (below) proves it. its high time to ask why is it that the five corporations who own the mainstream news and entertainment media are at war with our families.

    “The California Green Party is attracting controversy after posting an image on its official Instagram page which promotes ‘free slaps’ to be metered out to ‘straight white men’. The photo shows two women sat behind a table which is covered with a banner that reads ‘Finally! Free Slaps For Cisgendered Straight-identified White Men.’ The image is supposedly designed to draw attention to ‘rape culture’, a perennial obsession for feminists and liberals that has been vehemently debunked.”

    Comment by Fool on the hill — Fri 7th August 2015 @ 6:36 pm

  21. Yes all women need is an internet connection.
    Manipulate the male using sex, putting him in a vulnerable position.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Mon 10th August 2015 @ 1:44 pm

  22. Yes all females need is an internet connection to ruin the lives of their male victims.

    Despite all the evidence, their conversation on the internet etc, admission by the girl that she lied about her age, he is still convicted.
    A conviction needs knowledge and intent to get a conviction. Not, sorry you were manipulated and deceived, but you’re still guilty because you have a penis.
    PS look how judgemental of casual sex, and out of touch with reality the judge is.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Mon 10th August 2015 @ 3:10 pm

  23. I remember well about 20 years ago a well known feminist lawyer saying men have an advantage because they have fax machines. She stated this in an article in the Dom Post (if it was called that back then). The next time I saw her mentioned in the Dom Post it was to announce she had been appointed as a judge in the family court. Jill Moss is her name.

    I threw my old fax machine out the other day. Just as well; apparently it was an instrument for the oppression of women.

    Comment by Bruce T — Tue 11th August 2015 @ 11:44 am

  24. Isn’t it sad technological advancements get the blame.

    Why don’t they just stick to all men are bastards?

    Comment by Downunder — Tue 11th August 2015 @ 1:22 pm

  25. So according to Women’s Refuge internet scams are another male invention to abuse women! It’s clever I suppose for Women’s Refuge to choose internet communication as the basis for this new marketing angle, associating their ‘woman victim, man abuser’ meme with a technology that’s likely to be around for a long time yet. The ‘evil men beat innocent women’ marketing angle can’t be generating enough growth in donations and government grants these days.

    But what a silly example Women’s Refuge have chosen in this case. For a start, we don’t even know if the scammer was male at all.

    Secondly, the woman claimed that all someone needed to do was to say what she wanted to hear and she would do anything. So she has no responsibility for that? Maybe the slut-walk people will next demand that women should be able to give their banking pin numbers to any stranger on a dating site without having to fear they might be scammed! Or that if a woman jumped into a river without checking the depth any injuries would be the river’s fault.

    Thirdly, men are often the victims of internet dating scams, and on average they will be more vulnerable to such scams because most men want to rescue or help women and are used to being the ones who pay in the hope of developing a relationship (or even in the hope of just a one-night stand). Men are probably also at least as often as women the victims of cruel manipulation and emotional abuse via blogs, social networking sites, texting etc because (i) such abuse can be done with some degree of anonymity, (ii) physical size and strength issues don’t apply in the same way as face to face, and (iii) women tend to be better verbally especially with sarcasm and ridicule.

    Dating site scamming of men in some ways has been doing us all a favour. Through the publicity we are becoming more realistic about the nastiness and dishonesty of many women. It will be interesting to see if this new wave of false propaganda from Women’s Refuge ends up misleading and blinkering the public as successfully as their false portrayals of domestic and general violence did. It will be interesting to see if media fall into line with their new propaganda as they did regarding violence generally, by giving endless publicity to stories (such as the present one) showing women as victims but failing to highlight or report equally the cases of male victims and failing to publish accurate statistics or an accurate portrayal of the matter generally.

    Comment by Man X Norton — Tue 11th August 2015 @ 10:49 pm

  26. Wimmins Refuse !
    “Women and children” this, “women and children” that.
    By grouping women and children together they try to hitch a ride on a train of innocence and contemporaneously -deminished responsibility.
    Equality is supposedly the destination but as men are all brutish thugs bent on evil and harm there is no intention to stand women and men side by side. Better that women and children stay together as they then become a greater majority and it also means we don’t have to go looking for evil perpetrators of violence. Men are easily recognised.
    The lack of responsibility remains when women are violent. Online forums where women descuss thier violence and rage during pregnancy is an example.
    Preg-rage is quite a common problem during the first trimester and many women who are not ordinarily violent find themselves out of control and looking for objects to use as weapons. Raging Hormones are able to be used as an excuse for the behavior and esterogen imbalance disqualifies them from responsibility.
    I’ve never seen a man standing in the dock blaming his hormones for his violence.

    When David Cunliffe got up in front of all those women and said “I’m sorry for being a man”. – perhaps he had just realised he would have been better off with a vagina ?

    Comment by Voices back from the bush — Wed 12th August 2015 @ 1:05 pm

  27. Another example of how women can use the internet to bully a victim. Question, being a digital attack on a person how moving location can prevent the offending, but at least the police have been willing to look at her behaviour. As for women refuge etc saying that men do not fear for their safety, the comment by the police “reasonably fear for their safety”, indicates that the victim must be female?

    Comment by DJ Ward — Mon 17th August 2015 @ 3:44 pm

  28. Here is an example of a women using videos in her possession, and how she used them, by threatening to release them on the internet, to get a favourable divorce settlement, and hush money.
    No surprise with this one. She used the ‘he was domestically violent’ get out of goal free card.
    Luckily for him he has on tape, her threatening him.
    She also tried to get revenge by calling IRD making claims against him.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Mon 17th August 2015 @ 3:54 pm

  29. ‘This is getting to be restraining-order-level crazy … she sent me 75 texts in the last hour.’
    ‘She would not let the relationship end’

    Note to readers: If a female does this, fear for your life, and probably those around you too.

    And again, just in case, you came to the conclusion that this murder was different from others that females commit, she tried the ‘he was domestically violent’, get out of goal free card.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Mon 17th August 2015 @ 4:04 pm

  30. Would it be a lot better if the Women’s Refuse and other selected and approved groups could control all communications and decide what information they will allow and what information they will prohibit? Isn’t this really what this media beat up is about, getting us thinking that we need to have safety officers monitoring us?

    Comment by Fool on the hill — Mon 17th August 2015 @ 5:27 pm

  31. Interesting news stories DJ Ward. The last one from Ohio in the US highlighted some important factors. Firstly, the woman was said to have a narcissistic personality disorder. Clayton Weatherston was also said to have that disorder, often resulting in extreme reactions to rejection as if this is a threat to life. Like Weatherston, this woman use overkill methods in committing the murder, she showed little or no remorse, she appeared to enjoy being in the limelight during her trial and she claimed (probably believing this fully) that she was provoked, or in her case because she’s female that she was abused and she was protecting herself.

    We all have helpful and unhelpful personality factors and those labelled as suffering from personality ‘disorders’ may simply be towards the more extreme end of the continuum with regard to certain personality factors. The nasty, irrational or selfish behaviour many people show during relationships and especially after separation will be related to personality issues. However, when those issues are so extreme that they fit the criteria for a personality disorder, in some cases the person can be very dangerous. Fewer women than men meet diagnostic criteria for narcissistic, antisocial, paranoid, schizoid and schizotypal personality disorder while more women than men show borderline and histrionic personality disorder. However, women can present with any of these and it’s a good idea for anyone to study them and learn to recognize them before succumbing to the rose tinted glasses of love and lust. Those with antisocial and narcissistic personality disorders will be most dangerous to you physically while the others, especially borderline personality disorder, can cause great harm to your children, career, reputation, social network and life generally.

    If proposed law changes allow people (read ‘women’) to access prospective partners’ domestic violence records, people should also be able to find out whether a prospective partner has ever been diagnosed with a personality disorder.

    Secondly (regarding the news article), note that if the judge had believed this murdering woman’s story of being a victim of domestic violence then she could have been eligible for parole after about five years. Men’s lives are treated as so worthless that it’s seen as relatively ok for women to kill them.

    Comment by Man X Norton — Mon 17th August 2015 @ 8:39 pm

  32. @31 I totally agree Man X Norton,
    In the woman’s statement to the police dispatcher she is heard saying that he was lying on the ground twitching and since he was going to die anyway she decided to give him some more shots including one to the face.
    Its hard to imagine such cruelty and the same goes with Clayton Weatherston.
    Sophie’s mum on the outside of the door while over 200 stab wounds were inflicted is an even worse parental horror beyond any nightmare I have experienced.
    You mention borderline personality disorder and this is the one that men could benefit the most from awareness of. (in my opinion)
    If your new lady treats you like a king one minute, then suddenly turns on a dime and hates you, you have got yourself a very dangerous woman. (your dating a BPD)
    But you persevere because she tells you she gets that way because she has had a hard time in the past. You also Persevere because the majority of the time she is wonderful, she aligns yourself to you interests so much you will begin to think you found a soul mate. All the while she is looking for weaknesses in your emotions that she can begin to exploit. The sudden tempers increase in severity and last longer.
    You start to believe that its your fault because you are unable to bring her out of these moods. She is a master manipulator and no one will know of the experience you are having. (except men that have dated her)
    My Beautiful BPD ex used to try and set a false scene of abuse sometimes when “the tigers were present”. – she was a bank manager and very stylish but kept a crumpled linen frock with a minors wife style neckline and would put it on when she heard the neighbours car. She would sit at the window looking forlorn and looked down and to the side as they called out hello. I was completely stupid not to realise that she had victim fantasy’s that she was role playing.
    One morning she scratched toothpaste on her chest to fake an injury and she wore the same frock to the police station and my life changed forever that day.

    Prior to this relationship I knew nothing about Borderlines.

    You seem very clued up about these disorders Man X Norton, are you involved professionally in the field of mental health or have you researched just out of personal interest?

    Comment by voices back from the bush — Mon 17th August 2015 @ 9:47 pm

  33. If proposed law changes allow people (read ‘women’) to access prospective partners’ domestic violence records, people should also be able to find out whether a prospective partner has ever been diagnosed with a personality disorder.

    So we are to have a criminal clean slate law and also time-unlimited disclosure of mental health issues.

    I guess we should add:

    making false allegations
    bearing false witness or perjury
    any other mental health conditions………..
    maybe infertility or dysfunction..

    Such disclosures should also be automatically made, when a couple apply for a marriage license, or even just for looking too long at each other in the street?

    Maybe a months notice before the wedding should be required, so the parties have time to read all of the records, work out any changes to prenuptial “agreements” and run away……

    Certainly all people considering a new relationship need to spend many, many hours reading Wikipedia articles and watching YouTube videos about personality disorders and mental health issues and how to diagnose them when intoxicated by love and lust. Probably would have quite a contraceptive effect?

    Do you need to be as careful about mistresses, as about partners? I think you do, as it is actually harder to pay out 50% of all assets to each of two or more women….

    Young men might also need to understand the impacts of personality disorders on parenting skills….. as they might be left to pick up the pieces.

    We also need to consider the impacts of wrong information in these disclosed records….. There seems to be a huge amount of wrong information in so many caught$ records.
    I’m not sure what caught records are really suitable for? Just for keeping legal workers off the streets?

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Tue 18th August 2015 @ 3:12 pm

  34. Another example of a female using tech to abuse a male.
    This time the female in effect, deliberately kills the male.
    Notice the attempts to get out of being prosecuted.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Tue 25th August 2015 @ 4:37 pm

  35. Two examples that shows how sexually bigoted the legal profession will be in regard to the punishment of males compared to the punishment of females, for internet offences.

    In the first one a boy of 18 years of age has made defamatory comments about a former female teacher, on his facebook/twitter pages. IE very few people would actually read it. He gets a $105,000 fine. WOW for a teenage boy.

    Then in this example, the opposite of the first example. The victim was also a school teacher, but this time a male one. Worse than in the first example, the second one includes actual harm done to the victim. The allegations were that he committed 18 years of sustained domestic violence against her. The defamer being an adult women, not a teenager as in the first example. She gets a $12500 fine. That’s only 12% of the teenage boy’s fine!

    Quote from article 2
    ‘Judge Bowden said “domestic violence and abuse by its very nature usually [occurs] in the matrimonial home and in the absence of independent witnesses” and it was possible to make defamation findings “solely on the evidence of one partner against the other’. However, he said that in this case Ms Greeuw was not a credible witness and was “prepared to say or write whatever she thinks will suit her case”. At best, she had established there was an incident during a holiday in 2010 which led Mr Dabrowski to apologise.’

    Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 28th August 2015 @ 3:22 pm

  36. Here is an example of a female using digital media to assault the character of a male, just because he is older and has higher professional recognition than her.

    Do you think the world has gone nuts?
    Just give a modern (educated) women a compliment and find out just how nuts the world has become.
    Here we have a female (studied Boshier’s sun shining course) lawyer making completely unfounded slanderous statements about a male.
    The article has the intention of publicly shaming her victim.
    Obviously she should have her degree taken off her for incompetence, and bringing discredit to her profession.

    So what did he do so wrong to attract the wrath of this raving loony feminist.
    He said this.
    ‘Charlotte, delighted to connect,’ he wrote. ‘I appreciate that this is probably horrendously politically incorrect but that is a stunning picture!!!
    ‘You definitely win the prize for the best LinkedIn picture I have seen. Always interest (sic) to understand (sic) people’s skills and how we might work together. Alex’

    So when can a person say that’s a great picture?
    So when can a person express a desire to get to learn about a person’s skills, so that they can work together in the future?
    So when can a person express a desire to present to a person the possibility of other forms of relationship?
    Obviously she failed the intellect test when they used the term ‘If he was expecting’
    This is an admission that they don’t actually know if his statement had sexual connotations or not. They have just made an assumption that if a male is talking to them, then they want to use them, only for sating of sexual desires. So is slander acceptable just because of a guess at what the truth is?
    Quote: ‘his message was ‘offensive’.’
    Just to clarify the hypocrisy of the statement. If looks have no importance to her, and they don’t in any way represent her as a person, then why did she get dolled up for her photo? Why is it that her picture is not one of her without makeup on, or posed to give the most honest angle etc? How is giving a compliment, even with connotations, offensive? If he said ‘stunning photo’, then sent her a picture of his genitals and said ‘I hope you find this picture of me stunning’, then that may be offensive.
    Quote: ‘Unacceptable and misogynistic behavior’
    So if a female messaged her and said the same things, EG ‘Stunning photo, like to learn about your skills with the possibility that we could work together in the future.’ Would she have complained in the same way? No! it’s from a male, and under new feminist standards, males are only permitted to stand in a line up, to be assessed by women for their potential to provide for her needs and desires, (previous domestic violence history review process included). How dare a male express his feelings, or make any attempt to explore potential relationships. It’s just wrong for slaves to behave that way.
    How dare he behave like that, its unacceptable, and clearly misogynistic. He was not able to read her mind by looking at her photo. It was misogynistic of him to imply her stunning photo was an indication of her personality. Clearly if he could, he would see that underneath the facade is a very ugly person. Maybe if he was given the opportunity to look deeper into her skills, he wouldn’t like what he would find. After all she is 27 and is still at school learning a dead end, and already well covered subject. Be nice if she learnt about working for a living.
    As for sexism, she is studying Female Genital Mutilation. Clearly a big problem in Australia? Is she studying Male Genital Mutilation as well?
    Now there is some Misandry.
    Sadly the male has run off and cowered in the corner, realizing that he is now so old (57) that he has no right to stand in the lineup with younger more attractive males.
    ‘I sincerely regret my remarks have offended you and I offer you my apologies,’ he wrote.
    However Ms Proudman says the apology does not go far enough.
    Ah there it is.
    No matter how hard male’s try, this female can never be satisfied. No wonder taking a male near to a bedroom is traumatic for her. I suggest she engages the services of a sex therapist.
    Imagine what our education system has had to do to her to create belief systems like this?
    Who did that to her?
    Middle aged women (around 57 years old), who no longer get ‘sexist, but complimentary comments’.

    Why is it that females think it’s wrong to judge a person on their looks when females do it to men all the time.
    I’ve conducted my own experiments on this.
    Experiment 1. Look similar to a no hoper, low income, possibly homeless, just out of prison type person.
    Experiment 2. Look immaculately groomed.
    You will be amazed at the result. In experiment 1, females would look at me dismissively, and give me a wide berth. There was never an attempt to engage with me in conversation. In experiment 2 there is acknowledging smiles in passing, and regular blatant attempts to begin conversations.
    I however don’t find that the females acted in an offensive manner.
    How can human genetics driven behaviours be offensive?
    Looks in all its manifestations indicate genetic health and strongly influence sexual desires.
    There is hope.
    In about 30 years, Ms Proudman at 57 will no longer attract these ‘sexist’ comments, as she will be too old, and it would be yucky for her to be looked at sexually. Then we can see her for who she really is.
    Just another well trained man hating bigot.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 10th September 2015 @ 11:38 am

  37. Women’s refuge at it again.

    The case itself is one that can be assumed to be at the extreme end of this behaviour.
    There will be countless examples were couples in their sleep wake up to find they are ‘living there dream’.
    These are not the same as a normalised, excessive behaviour, as the case is an example of.

    Anyway back to Women’s Refuge, and there one eyed bigotry.
    ‘Chief executive of Women’s Refuge Dr Ang Jury said abuse and manipulation of women within marriage was prevalent.’
    Are they living in a fantasy world?

    “I think it is exceedingly common, if you think about the way domestic violence works, why would someone stop at controlling everything else about someone’s life, and not control their body.’
    So were was the ‘controlling everything else about someone’s life’ in this case?
    Maybe DR Ang Jury shout try being a male for a day, just to see how women ‘think about the way domestic violence works’ and normalize ‘controlling everything else about someone’s life (the male victim)’
    ‘and not control their body’
    So the number one, most common sex crime, is females who, ‘not control their body’ by subjecting the male to pregnancy without consent.
    Now that’s ‘controlling everything else about someone’s life’.

    I’ve found something to agree with Women’s Refuge on.
    “It goes without saying, it’s so common it’s not common.”
    ‘There needed to be a change in the way rape and sexual violence was defined, Jury said.’

    “In reality, coerced sexual contact, whether you are doing it because you are scared or because it’s the only way to keep the peace, is rape or sexual violence.”
    I can just imagine it now. Why don’t you want to have sex with me? Don’t you love me?
    As the male victim, not aware that the partner has lied about being on the pill, manipulates her victim into having sex.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Mon 14th September 2015 @ 10:36 am

  38. On NZ Herald site today 18th Jan 2018. Heading:- “Women reveal reasons for lying about being on the pill”

    Comment by Nobody worth listening to — Thu 18th January 2018 @ 6:51 am

  39. @38 Most of those comments relate to an absence of trust or lack of conscience with regard to the way they treat their male target.

    It’s just as likely the same deception exists within relationships but the female is less likely to be honest.

    Comment by Downunder — Thu 18th January 2018 @ 9:17 am

  40. Reading that Herald article in number 38 one thing that crosses my mind is whether those women who find it so easy to be venomous came from a fatherless home or if the mother had alienated the child who has now been left embittered.

    The effects of increased fatherlessness in the Western World must project itself onto society in some form.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Thu 18th January 2018 @ 8:47 pm

  41. #MeToo
    It’s in the
    Lifestyle section

    Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 18th January 2018 @ 9:07 pm

  42. It’s not actually a Herald article. It’s by Latoya Gale and borrowed from the Daily Mail.

    I think we are still some way off seeing New Zealand journalists undertaking male centred articles. They still skirt around these issues by pumping out a certain amount of ineffectual stories about a man or about the nature of his physical injury.

    Likewise there is an abundance of gay or transgender articles but a lot less said about lesbians.

    What I’ve observed over 2017, while there was an increase in reporting of articles about men, there was a shift to a more devious aprroach to maintaining anti-male bias.

    That at the very least indicates concious pressure on journalists and also indicates that they have an awareness of their actions.

    Comment by Downunder — Fri 19th January 2018 @ 8:54 am

  43. Under NZ law (S128A Crimes Act) these women committed sexual violation with a maximum prison tariff of 20 years. We need some men to make complaints to police then probably to mount private prosecutions because police will probably show sexist dismissal of male complainants about female sexual crimes.

    Remember too that there is no limitation regarding how long ago the alleged offence occurred at least back to the passing of S128A under the Clark regime.

    Comment by Ministry of Men’s Affairs — Fri 19th January 2018 @ 9:51 am

  44. It’s a regurgitated article. I’ve seen exactly the same one a few years ago.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 19th January 2018 @ 10:13 am

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