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Men’s Summit 2018 Friday 6th April

Filed under: Events,Gender Politics,General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 7:55 pm Sat 14th October 2017

The Ministry of Men’s Affairs is pleased to announce the next New Zealand Men’s Summit will be held in Auckland on 6th April 2018.

The 2018 Summit will build on the success of recent Summits in Christchurch and Wellington.

Venue and speakers are to be announced. As before, there will be a range of thought-provoking NZ speakers and there will be opportunity for concerned men and women to network and to discuss matters of importance to men and boys. There are so many matters of great importance.

We also invite individuals and groups to set up table displays or to hang posters to inform participants, to promote their books or male-relevant items, etc. Please contact [email protected] about this.


  1. How do we counter this emotive propaganda? It’s intersting to see this story in the nz herald today. Last week my wife filed an ipca complaint relating to the over reach of the nz police getting involved in a civil matter, as they entered an enclosed yard unlawfully for no legal reason. All based on the word of a woman, who is also a suspected criminal ….forging documents, elder abuse, threatening witnesses, etc. it’s disturbing to see the NZ police breaking the law trying to enforce civil dispute litigation for a suspected criminal. Of course the danger here is that a man, a father , a son can have his character destroyed and be judged guilty of any accusation …..forcing him into this secret family court scam to prove his innocence, forcing him to undergo treatment….remember this current scam is not evidence based. Anything can be said and the police will act on it with impunity.

    This story hits all the talking points and is clearly a leading story aimed at propping up the future needs of the NZ police to get more binding powers to force men into this system….against their will. forced compliance and extended rights to enter property, to jump fences and target men as criminals, on civil disputes matters. This is all very very dangerous and will give th state further power to attack and destroy men, fathers and sons who just might be a problem for the state. Men are protectors, they strive to protect kids from harm. What happens when women are harming kids…..which was my case, and the state appointed lawyer withholds the evidence of the mothers abuse? If the father moves to protect the child, he can be contained with any statement or allegation made by the mother…..with no evidential requirement. Any allegation will do to get the police jumping to attention.

    It concerns me that this “letter” from an unidentifiable woman, touches all the talking points of our recent complaint relating to police over reach. We need to discuss the use of the family courts to control men, to remove fathers from a child’s life. We see particularly in Maori ands Polynesian communities this process being used as a for of social control, a containment of strong protective fathers who in many cases want to protect their children from abuse by the mother!!!!!,

    Perhaps given the 13 Maori MP’s in the new government we can ask for some oversight into the abuse of powers by police as they push ” safety ” to promote this violence industry. What I have found is the children are not being protected as a few benefit financially from the conflict they escalate and create.

    Comment by Hornet — Mon 6th November 2017 @ 9:25 am

  2. In the recent events with my mother, we see all those wanting to exploit her property and financial interests being permitted to actively engage in their behaviour. While the son, who wants nothing but to see the vulnerable widow protected from harm and exploitation …..elder abuse ….is being targeted and hunted down like a criminal.

    The family lawyers deliberately did not put in place the requested protections for the widow against the known concerns with the daughter. This deliberate lack of action allowed the known conflict to flourish. Ably assisted by an uncle and Aunty who enflamed this conflict with lies and direct input.

    Between the three of them they all stood to gain financially gaining control over my mothers estate, a development opportunity.

    In the case of the lawyers and judiciary benefitting from the deliberately created conflict which they knew would take place and which they created through their deliberate negligence.

    This corrupted old lawyer even gloating that I would now have to go to the family court to resolve the conflict he created.

    They have a big problem now, because they were caught. Reputations will soon be in tatters.

    Means motive and opportunity ….follow the money and you catch the criminals. Qui Bono….who benefits?

    Greed and selfishness are the cardinal sins. These people did not need to do this.

    But there is a reason, some are protecting the crimes iof the national party as their agent provateur attempted to entrap me on firearms charges and level false accusations against me.

    All those who covered this up are of course parties to this offending. Silencing me in the family courts was a tactic which failed.

    We also see in the case of the lawyers a desperate need to keep this business protected, so anyone challenging it must be destroyed anyway possible. Harming kids and the elderly and allowing their harm is good for business. Keeping conflict alive is good for business. Pouring petrol on the fire is good for business. Never once helping the resolve matters.

    And then there is the financial greed and selfishness. How the few exploit these situations for their own financial reward. How the few prey on the vulnerable for profit. Exploiting conflict using Children and widows. Let’s face it these people are the scum of the earth. Parasites preying on the helpless. Bullying at its worst.

    So this must and will be exposed. Parasitic vermin will be named and identified.

    Comment by Hornet — Mon 6th November 2017 @ 9:52 am

  3. We see a refusal of the NZ police to arrest criminals committing elder abuse….a domestic violence crime in nz.
    What they often do, I have now learnt from aged care….is force people into then family court to sort things out. Hidden from view and public scrutiny.
    In my recent case if I was in someway guilty of threatening my sister , why not prosecute me in the criminal courts? An open hearing ? With evidence for all to see? No they will not do this because the entire charade is a scam, they need the secrecy of the family courts. Corruption lives in places hidden from view.

    1. Lawyer for child deliberately suppressed evidence of the mother harming the child …evidenced by the court appointed psychologist…..with expert evidence.
    2. Social,worker at auckland hospital actively assisted elder abuse in direct contravention of their code of ethics and assisted in keeping good men away from the vulnerable widow, actively assisting those seeking to exploit her.
    3. Crimes of my sister, her breaches of code of ethics not investigated … civil allegations are pursued actively by police attempting to get this hidden in family courts as they actively targeted the father, son.
    4. And While actively enforcing civil complaints …police break the law as they are unlawfully found in enclosed yard. And yet the NZ police do not investigate crimes by criminals…..why not that’s their core function…..lets see……

    Comment by Hornet — Mon 6th November 2017 @ 3:42 pm

  4. If you were to write a book about New Zealand today I would be torn between two titles, ‘State of Grief’ and ‘State on Confusion’.

    While there are many people that are just plain nasty, there are many more who have been fooled into believing what they do, or should do is for ‘some reason’ right.

    Like many New Zealanders and many of ‘us’ those who for a variety of reasons haven’t experienced the life they could have, there is not only regret, but experiences that we have survived – many haven’t – the fields of black crosses behind us are a testament to that.

    But there are also arogant and judgmemental contradictions that we have not been quick to see through and accept.

    That is what needs to change, but the above advert is at least a step in the right direction.

    Let’s hope we see a well considered effort from concerned men.

    Comment by Downunder — Mon 6th November 2017 @ 3:46 pm

  5. NZ Men’s Summit 2018
    Men’s Summit 2018 will be held on Friday 6th April at the Holiday Inn, Auckland Airport.

    A shuttle bus runs between the terminal buildings and the venue in Ascot Road, Mangere that also has ample car parking.

    The spacious Jean Batten Room will be a quality environment for our speakers, screenings, displays and workshops. Organizers are working to assemble a productive and varied programme with real relevance.

    Invite your friends and associates to register as soon as the programme details are made available early in the new year.

    Morning and afternoon tea and a working lunch are included in what will be a reasonable cost for the event. Accommodation at Holiday Inn is available for those who wish to stay overnight, at a special rate associated with the Men’s Summit.

    ‘Wiseguys’ Men’s Refuge at the old Kingseat Hospital is generously hosting a spit roast dinner for those who wish to join us there later. Transport can be arranged.

    This is a great opportunity to have a weekend in Auckland, to network, have a say, learn, gain support and press for more commitment for the welfare of NZ men, boys and their families.

    Contact the organizers at 022 594 8093 or 0274 799 745

    Comment by Ministry of Men's Affairs — Sun 19th November 2017 @ 11:14 pm

  6. Happy new year to you all.

    The Hornet has been under attack of late, with multiple attempts by our women friendly police service and bailiffs trying very hard to lock me up, clip my wings and have me declared mental, insane, criminal, racist, terrorist, violent, threatening, abusive, anything to destroy my credibility.

    Again the HORNET caught members of the NZ police breaking the LAW – with evidence, and now the Police are being investigated for crimes against a FATHER.

    For initiating unlawful investigations when there was no lawful requirement, caught breaking the law as they entered an enclosed yard at our home, trying to serve notices for my criminal sister.

    And then the creme de la creme of disasters for the NZ Police, they were then caught calling friends after we filed IPCA complaints, trying to illicit a complaint that I was not fit to own my firearms, to justify their unlawful enquiries, after they were caught launching an unlawful investigation as to my fit and proper status to own firearms.

    There were NO PROTECTION ORDERS ISSUED to my criminal sister, and I am now told by some GOOD POLICE, that there was NO evidence to support a protection order in the first place.

    So there was no LAWFUL reason to hold back my firearms licence and no lawful reason to investigate me.

    What a mess they have created for themselves……as soon as the IPCA complaints were tabled – My firearms licence was quickly renewed after being on hold for 7 months.

    And then some idiot in the NZ police then tried calling around associates to see if they could get a complaint to justify their investigation…….after the fact – caught red handed.

    There is an agenda in NZ to remove firearms from LAW ABIDING CITIZENS and I guess Police breaking the law in pursuit of this agenda is acceptable to the NZ Police, especially if they can use this to attack a father who has asked questions of the current NZ Family court corruption.

    Its official we have some CRIMINALS in the NZ Police.

    Please also note for record, I was in lawful possession of my firearms for 7 months without a licence – under COMMON NATURAL LAWS, you hare entitled to own property, and that includes a firearms.

    You also have a lawful natural right to self defence.

    Please read the letter below which I received from our current Police and Revenue Minister NASH – who AGREES with ME.

    As fathers we all know too well, how WOMAN are NOT BEING ARRESTED = they can make False accusations – taken as fact with no evidence, , they commit crimes, harm their kids, breach parenting orders, alienate the father from the child and yet the NZ Police will Never arrest them for this.

    My Ex wife and sister both committed crimes, exploited the vulnerable – a child and a widow, and have both been protected by the NZ Police.

    Thats Corruption.

    From NASH below……….

    Hi Nick,
    Maybe you and I are from a bygone era, but I totally agree with you in a number of your points.
    In my personal view, a number of the judiciary are not applying the law, when handing out sentences, in a way that NZers expect for a number of offences. In the old days, police arrested people who committed crimes and put them in front of the courts instead of giving them a ‘written warning’ for sometimes multiple offences, and community policing was valued rather than the current madness of retrenching community policing and stripping out organised crime squads.
    How are these measures supposed to develop safe communities and put the bad guys behind bars? Quite simply it doesn’t.

    My contacts within the police also reiterate your comments about the current culture that exists within policing.
    There are many very good men and women who are passionate about policing and the communities they serve, but who are incredibly frustrated with the current policies and direction that is being taken by police in a number of areas.

    I have very strong views about what needs to happen in order to once again return policing to what it was like when you did a fantastic job of catching criminals and solving crime.

    Once again, thank you for your message

    Best regards

    Stuart Nash. LLM, MMgt, MForSc
    MP for Napier

    Comment by hornet — Sat 10th February 2018 @ 1:23 pm

  7. A summary of our concerns – we MUST demand that WOMEN be arrested for their CRIMES.
    We must demand a return to enforcement of CRIMINAL LAWS by the POLICE.

    Forcing good people into the CIVIL COURTS for resolution = only benefits the RICH, the lawyers and those who want to profit by exploiting the vulnerable.

    It is NO Surprise then we had such a system in place for 9 years under the NATIONAL Government.
    They have destroyed the culture of the NZ police. Only the CORPORATIONS benefit from these tactics. The GREEDY, the SELFISH.

    NZ Police Refusing to Arrest Criminals

    Protecting Women, Bias towards Fathers.

    False Accusations – Lies and Deception rewarded.

    Those who are Liars, who are Psychopathic resort to DARVO when cornered with the TRUTH.

    They D = Deny the accusation, They A = Accuse the other of their crimes, They quickly try and R = Reverse V = victim O= offender roles – since being the victim is the more powerful position to take.
    if all else fails, they claim MEMORY LOSS.

    As a Detective, I am well versed in conducting investigations and interviewing suspects and catching criminals.
    I am also well versed in seeing the damage these False accusations by women, mothers, sisters, can do to a man/father and his life.

    My Ex wife attacked me the father, and my sister attacked me the Son – both these women, engaged in the exact same tactics – both made false accusations , both exploited the vulnerable – a Child and a Widow, both committed crimes and then both ran to the police attempting to get protection orders, when cornered with the TRUTH.

    Sadly our legal system – intent on perpetuating conflict, and or using false accusations to destroy good men/fathers/sons, is all too keen to dive in and support these false accusations when there is little or no evidence to support them.

    We are dealing with CIVIL law here = where actual “EVIDENCE” is NOT required.

    This confused me significantly when I first engaged with this CIVIL LAW system, because I approached everything as I would investigating a CRIME = where “Evidence” is fundamental to the case.

    In CIVIL law allegations rely on the “Balance of Probabilities” – where anything goes, where any lie goes, those who tell the biggest lies, win.

    And this is the problem.

    There is no requirement to produce Evidence or Truth of anything genuine in a CIVIL matter.

    Its also very important to note from a Detectives point of view – there are CRIMES being committed by these women, elder abuse, false accusations, domestic violence, child abuse, breach of parenting orders, but the POLICE are NOT arresting them for CRIMINAL Offences, rather they are deliberately forcing both parents into the Family court and the CIVIL law circus.

    I have caught my Ex wife and my sister and a lawyer for child, committing crimes – yet the NZ Police will NOT arrest women or those protecting this system of corruption.

    This is a HUMAN RIGHTS matter, where there is a clear BIAS towards FATHERS.

    In the case of False accusations against me I have asked the police – if I was abusive, violent and or threatening as claimed, where CRIMES are alleged – WHY have the police not ARRESTED me for a criminal offence?

    They cant and they won’t because there is NO evidence of any CRIME.

    The Corporation wants you in “CIVIL” court so you can be stripped of all your money and rights.

    This only benefits the Corporation, the Private prison system and the Corporate law offices and lawyers.

    This point is fundamental to exposing the corruption currently going on within the Secret Family court system and by those who are manipulating the Criminal and Civil law systems for their own agenda.

    I have witnessed the transformation of our NZ police force from a Criminal Investigation Service, protecting life and property, where in just over 20 years since I left, the culture of the NZ police has changed into a Government CIVIL Debt collection agency focusing on arresting people for CIVIL law breaches, victimless crimes, and placing them before CIVIL courts where they are forced to spend lots of money, defending False accusations, which are not based on FACTS or TRUTH or EVIDENCE, and where FATHERS, will rarely if ever get a positive result.

    My Aunty and Uncle who got in on the act and tried to also exploit my mothers stroke, placed their kids through Roman Catholic church schools, so it has me asking questions – is this what they teach? Is it ok to target the weak and the vulnerable and exploit them?
    The Vatican made much of its wealth my exploiting WIDOWS… this still going on today in SECRET?????????????

    Roman Catholicism worships the MOTHER – MARY.


    References to “Jesus Christ” were recently removed from the NZ Parliamentary Prayer.

    Comment by hornet — Sat 10th February 2018 @ 1:32 pm

  8. Also, an update for you all, I am in direct contact with the FATHER in GERMANY who had his child stolen, by an ex wife who is down here in NZ, being protected. Refer stories by Jarrod Savage – NZ Herald.

    A woman who has committed crimes with her partner in Germany, who has alienated the child, lost custody of the child because of alienation and who has told many lies to many people including her own child.

    Watch this space. This man / father is very wealthy in Germany, he has a vast media corporation behind him and he is exactly like me.

    He wants to see our children ( and our Elderly – widows) protected from these Vampires,these vultures they parasites who prey on the weak and vulnerable for profit.

    That is WHY they need to remove the father, the protector the man of ACTION.
    That is WHY they act on false accusations and lies to target the father figure.

    Bullies DO NOT want good strong FATHERS around protecting the vulnerable.

    Comment by hornet — Sat 10th February 2018 @ 1:40 pm

  9. I see you are in contact with the MP for Napier.

    Who is the Minister of Police these days?

    Comment by Downunder — Sat 10th February 2018 @ 2:18 pm

  10. Re false accusations, here’s one we’ve heard too often – feminism always had as its main mantra that “ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS”. It was initially trying to say that every man molests his children etc but was modified to remove the physical act because the claim was so patently false that only brainless feminists and soy boys could believe it. I asked a university professor who repeated that lie often about how this is so and she explained that whenever a man looks at a woman, he commits the act of raping her in his mind, therefor ‘all men are rapists’!!

    Comment by Frank — Tue 13th February 2018 @ 9:13 am

  11. Male-denigrating hate speech is perfectly acceptable nowadays, as in this article from the sexual harassment circus.

    Comment by Ministry of Men's Affairs — Tue 13th February 2018 @ 9:59 am

  12. Back to the idea of “Men’s Summit Conference”, we can improve impacts if projects build on the contributions of earlier works.
    There is a video record of the 2016 Men’s Issues Summit Christchurch on YouTube:

    The Proceedings for the 2005 Men’s Summit have disappeared from the internet. The CENTRE FOR PUBLIC POLICY EVALUATION at Massey University, that hosted it, has been closed.
    Table of Contents:
    Foreword vii
    Introduction ix
    Chapter One The State of Male Health 1
    What can we do? 10 Bruce Mackie
    Chapter Two Trends in Boys’ Education in New Zealand 12 Joseph Driessen
    Chapter Three Gender and Power – Myths and Misuses 19 Warwick Pudney
    Chapter Four Fathers After Separation: Promoting the Two Home Option 28 Don Rowlands
    Chapter Five Fathers and Fatherlessness 36 Rex McCann
    Chapter Six Men and Violence: The Cost to Men 46 Warwick Pudney
    Chapter Seven New Zealand fathers: Overworked, undervalued, and overseas? 59 Paul Callister
    Chapter Eight Men in Research 79 Stuart Birks
    Chapter Nine Problems in Working with Men 89 Philip Chapman
    About the Authors 94
    There is a lot of learning in both Conferences.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Tue 20th February 2018 @ 11:00 am

  13. Murray, also discuss the use of character assassination to destroy good fathers who speak the truth.
    We see the same tactics being rolled out…..entrapment, provocation to conflict, false accusations which the nz police are only too quick to act one, and of course stereo typing of men as horrible, violent, sexual abusers.

    The recent sexual abuse against woman psyop out of holly weird is targeting men…again. I noted recently the nz man who spoke out against Paula Bennett and what she did to him, was threatened by our police with being placed on a sex offender register… character assassinate him and destroy his credibility forever……so he levels sexual assault accusations against a woman when he as a kid, and yet he is threatened with being labelled as the offender……this is classic DARVO…were criminals when caught reverse victim offender roles.

    What disturbs me recently is the proposal to create another sex register for work related sexual harassment. Given alpha males are the target we can all see where this is headed. Again based on the accusation of a woman, a man will see his reputation and credibility destroyed forever. And with a willing police force ready to use this to shut down anyone who is a problem we have a larger concern developing. The old terroris, mental case accusation is almost past its use by date, so there is a desperate need to create a new accusation…..against men.

    It’s far too easy today for police or govt agencies to place porn or incriminating evidence on your computer and then bust in your door claiming your a pedophile or sexual deviant. Entrapment by stealth. Character assassination of anyone telling the truth.

    Clearly the kiwi politician in Aussie is not wanted by some in the power circle, so he is being targetted and destroyed.
    Character assassinated.

    That’s why we see this mass media dialogue exposing some, while seeking to use this campaign to target the average man on the street , after creating mass hysteria.

    The truth is their mortal enemy. Speak the truth.

    Comment by Hornet — Fri 23rd February 2018 @ 8:14 am

  14. @Hornet you raised the point about porn prosecutions.

    Are you familiar with specific cases of planting of porn on computers?

    My understanding of these prosecutions is that they are brought about by using the victims credit card to by illegal material on line. The conviction is based on proof of purchase.

    You may be right in what you’re saying but I believe this is the more likely situation where entrapment is possible but also a consequence of other illegal activity.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Fri 23rd February 2018 @ 9:12 am

  15. Proceedings from Men’s Conference 2017 (incomplete)
    This gives an idea of the quality of the presentations. I hope it is an encouragement to attend this years Men’s Conference.
    A comment above gives the link to the proceedings from the 20015 Conference.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Fri 23rd March 2018 @ 9:59 am

  16. To an audience who intended to do what?

    Sit quiet for another 12 months so

    A) funding lines weren’t threatened
    B) they didn’t attract any negative press
    C) so any men that did ask for help were channeled into established funding lines
    D) a ‘very few’ individuals who had the means to official assistance might protect those relationships
    E) launch attacks on anyone was considered a threat to A B C D

    Outside of this percieved necessity to defend the essential integrity of ‘the men’s movement’ has there been any constructive progress, any wins, any good press we might be able to reflect on?

    Comment by Evan Myers — Fri 23rd March 2018 @ 11:09 am

  17. #Evan
    While I agree with your comments on what’s has been achieved, as there’s obviously very little, I am witnessing something positive.
    The general populace is becoming more informed on men’s issues and modern feminism is also widely ridiculed.
    The media may be blind but the citizens are waking up and are calling out the bias and propaganda.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 23rd March 2018 @ 3:53 pm

  18. @DJ WARD

    I think you’re right about the current general awareness and even a degree of resistance going up in some arenas, but the usual response to this is to change method of transportation not the message.

    We’ve seen these small wins fade away many times before.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Fri 23rd March 2018 @ 4:34 pm

  19. @DJ The post could probably do with a bit of an update/pr input.

    There’s not a lot there to encourage the late comers.

    Comment by Downunder — Fri 23rd March 2018 @ 4:47 pm

  20. Dear Evan, you seem to be criticising men who help other men and take some Government funding, such as Father & Child Trust. I pay for food and they probably have to too.
    I can understand some expression of frustration, but they are doing ongoing work to support some men, that noone else is doing. I personally cannot see any value in simply criticising these organisations and those who work in them?
    In my view, what matters is how well “independent” men can marshal our resources and communicate what is going on to the voting public.
    MoMA are being active in that respect and I hope that many men will show some practical and useful support for MoMA’s Men’s Conference?
    Women’s groups are getting Government funding, as Government perceives that they have sympathy from the public. NZ’s richest individuals are men, so why would men’s groups “need” Government funding?
    Why is it that so many men moan, but don’t work effectively together for political change or public influence? (Three decades ago, that was said of women.)
    What can we do to redress men’s failure to politic together?
    It is easy to criticise, but how much use is there in doing only that?
    I remember Saint Jim Bailey saying how sick he was of “keyboard warriors”. Me too.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Fri 23rd March 2018 @ 8:03 pm

  21. @20 You’re obviously not in charge of PR!

    The question in 16 was obviously about the audience, and that has been raised in various ways by a number of commenters over the last 6 months who haven’t seen any response from MOMA.

    Raising the assumption and going on to question it, is typically what @Hornet would refer to as ‘gas lighting’.

    Going on to draw the support of another person based on a quotation of ‘a criticism at another time and place is a Feminist tactic which I made a point of posting about recently.

    Leaning on Feminist lamposts is not going help your obvious lack of understanding of men’s issues and social functioning outside of their relationship with children.

    What can we do to redress men’s failure to politic together?

    Considered it’s been done before and others have succeeded where you’re failing, you might direct those questions at yourself.

    Finally that was not a very smart comment to put under a post 2 weeks out from a event unless it was designed to make it perfectly clear that this group is happy playing in their own sandpit.

    Comment by Downunder — Sat 24th March 2018 @ 10:16 am

  22. happy playing in their own sandpit

    – I am wondering that too, alas?
    Overall, in my opinion, the largest untapped resource of men’s energy lies among the bulk of men, who are poorly informed about the forces affecting men’s lives, confused by false information put out by pressure groups and happy to watch entertainment films or have a few beers. So what?
    The people that I admire the most, are those who are taking constructive actions, more than talkers.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Sun 25th March 2018 @ 8:46 am

  23. Perhaps the point might better have been raised by asking whether the audience can cope with a conflict of interest, or perhaps some of the speakers even.

    In defense of old white men the audience might feel inclined to take some form of protest against Julie Anne Genter.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Sun 25th March 2018 @ 8:58 am

  24. Protest against Genter …

    Might save Wellington freezing over – too many snowflakes like her accumulated in one place would be best avoided.

    Comment by Downunder — Sun 25th March 2018 @ 10:52 am

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