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Filed under: General — Downunder @ 5:09 pm Thu 16th November 2017

Is consent a political diversion?

I offer my seed without reason

I offer my egg without justification

What are your thoughts?


  1. The State of Maryland has granted pregnant women (rape victims) the right to apply to have parental rights of ‘the attacker’ ended.

    I do recall someone bleating about how inappropriate thus post was, through another post but they may have been intoxicated by Feminism that day and not thinking straight.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Thu 8th February 2018 @ 9:19 am

  2. I had to read this one twice because I was a little confused.
    But in summary.
    A female made a compliant to the police.
    Accused defendant of violence and rape in interview with police.
    Defendant admits an act of violence but denies the vast majority of the cliams.
    It goes to trial.
    The accuser refuses to testify.
    The judge threatens the accuser with prison.
    The accuser testifies.
    The accuser repeatedly says the accusation was not true.
    The judge disagrees with the accuser and convicts the defendant.

    The judges reasoning.
    “He said while the outcome may not be what she wanted, her desire to keep matters private was outweighed by the community interest for there to be prosecutions in cases involving violent offending against women.”

    Obviously I missed something in the fine print.
    Where’s the beyond reasonable doubt?

    Comment by DJ Ward — Tue 22nd May 2018 @ 6:27 pm

  3. DJ Ward @ 2: Incredible. The erosion of justice under the banner of femaleism.

    One of the many changes made in recent decades to reduce the goal posts for convicting men was to allow the evidence-in-chief (the initial opening claims made by the accuser) to be presented by showing the videoed police interview at the time the accusations were first made. That interview doesn’t involve any vow to tell the whole truth etc, doesn’t involve facing the person being accused, and in no way involves the gravitas of a court hearing. There is no opportunity for a defence lawyer to object to leading questions and there is no way to know whether someone else may be prompting or selectively encouraging the complainant from behind the camera. Despite the lessons that should have been learned from the Christchurch Creche debacle, the Crown is still allowed to cut out of the evidential video any bits that might not support the prosecution’s case.

    The evidential video interview appears to have been the basis on which this judge convicted this accused.

    The idea of proof beyond reasonable doubt seems to be of no further interest to our Courts as they fall over each other to prove their feminist sympathies.

    Comment by Man X Norton — Tue 22nd May 2018 @ 7:53 pm

  4. The video has become a different witness. The evidence of the prosecutrix (a female prosecutor?)

    Yes, the complaintant features in the video, but the video is not the complaintant.

    Has shades of the European Inquisitorial System, but the investigator is not a judge deciding if there is a case to answer.

    When the complaintant appears in court and the story changes, it’s the ‘offender’s’ fault.

    You have to get the feeling this was a show trial, judge-alone, no jury, judicial activism, the defendant counsell enquiring about restorative justice at the moment of the verdict.

    You could probably write a book about this trial alone, hidden away in the New Plymouth High Court.

    Comment by Downunder — Wed 23rd May 2018 @ 10:15 am

  5. He said (he being the judge)

    But there are no quotation marks. It appeared to me that the journalist was talking to the complaint through an interpretation of something the judge said.

    Anyway that made me suspicious enough and I researched the journalist.

    … eye for news but also a keen sense of the issues affecting New Zealand society, many of which are hidden from view,” Mr Martin said.

    (Deena) Coster has a post-graduate degree in social work from Massey University and spent 12 years working at Child, Youth and Family and the Taranaki Restorative Justice Trust.

    “Through my experience as a social worker you get to see that hard, sharp end of life, and you also see how it’s reported on. I always felt there was space for more positive and informative stories to be told,” she said.

    “I’ve always been interested in people and in particular people who may not be represented or don’t necessarily get their stories told”

    Comment by Evan Myers — Wed 23rd May 2018 @ 10:43 am

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