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The Thirty Something Girl

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:05 am Thu 2nd August 2018

The evolution of our new social system, woman first society, call it what you want – how would you describe it apart from a bloody great mess?

Amongst this are numerous new trends that older observers may be noticing.

One I’ve noted recently is the Thirty-Something-Girl.

Given the national shortage of men there has to a significant number of girls not in relationships, and they’re becoming more visible.

It’s also reflected in our dwindling reproduction rate, now somewhere below 1.9 in its continuing downward trend.

Education and employment is easily available to most girls who do want to work, so anyone with a few brains and a mild inclination can drift through their twenties, taking their time to grow up, pay off the student loan, travel a bit, and suddenly they’re a thirty something adult with no committed relationship and no children.

For some this is no doubt a choice and we’ve seen those news articles and the declarations – “this is my choice”.

But increasely I’m coming across these thirty something girls who seem to have more of a, ‘not actually sure how I ended up here’ take on life. They’ve lived a relatively free and easy life and are now they finding themselves, daughters, sisters and aunties perhaps, but not mothers, and the pool of men, if they are looking is, well, shallow to say the least.

Not all have had successful climbs to their mid-thirties. There’s stories of woe also. Drugs, debt, various coming off the rails for other girls, and this has not been such a pleasant journey to the same point in their life … and what now?

One recently offered me her own candid reflection, “I’ve been a silly girl.”

Have you got a thirty something girl in your family, with her biological clock ticking, having a post-childhood crisis?

Perhaps a Family Court child who said, “I’m not following in my parents’ footsteps, thanks.”?

Likewise have you spotted another evolving trend in our brave new world?


  1. Out of all the thirty something girls I know only two are married with children.

    All of the others, of which there are many, are solo parents, I live in South Auckland and it seems to be a theme in this area, having topped the list statistically many times.
    These ladies seems to like it this way and can count on a bit of company when she feels like it, plenty of single guys out there to oblige and so it goes..
    You can even get a career and it will usually be highly subsidised or free whilst affording to live on your own, child in tow, lifes a little stressful but only as much as most others these days.

    Comment by mama — Thu 2nd August 2018 @ 1:21 pm

  2. It’s probably a good time to ask the question too.

    30 years ago we were grappling with 87 share market crash.

    Females 30 – 35 years old now have grown up in a very different environment to someone who had made life decisions at that time.

    Comment by Downunder — Thu 2nd August 2018 @ 2:43 pm

  3. Maybe if our excess of female lawyers had trained in social workers, Mexico (that’s what the call the poorer suburbs in the Hutt down there) wouldn’t have such a big problem.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Thu 2nd August 2018 @ 4:33 pm

  4. The education system is failing young men and it leaves a shrinking ratio of available men for women to “marry up” to. Hopefully these young men are wising up to the much better options available for them.

    I wouldn’t touch a feminised woman with a barge pole. I know I am not alone. If she is a New Zealand woman then 99.9% are feminised and thus this applies to them. For the other 0.1% you never know who they are because they will hide it from you not just on the first date but right up until it suits them.
    A successful male with a passport, and a job, one can learn another language and travel. Soon he discovers there are literally millions of far more suitable women out there. He soon tells or demonstrates this to other males.
    Then of course there is the every growing number of MGTOW who share opinions on the internet.

    Most young men will have seen their father, or uncle or friend’s father get utterly screwed in divorce so they are gradually wising up to the risks.

    Of course there is about half a generation of young men and women who have had little or no father in their lives to teach them what to look for in a relationship and so they drift around in the hook up culture until they become solo parents and/or get screwed by the system.

    Ultimately it is this specure of ever growing number of disillusioned women, past their prime sexual attractiveness, alone with their cats that will lead more and more women demand things change for males. Once women demand it in enough numbers then things will change for men and boys.

    Comment by Vman — Tue 14th August 2018 @ 7:25 pm

  5. I’m quietly paying attention to the conversation, throwing in the odd question to fill the gaps.

    A thirty something girl from a developed English speaking country.
    No magical powers or sought after qualification that we desperately need.
    Holding down a position that could be filled by a NZ girl.

    And will stay in New Zealand because …
    “I’d rather live in New Zealand than my own country.”

    Has already made her life decisions.
    “I’m not going to ruin my life by having children.”

    I’m starting to question whether our administration is running a country or some form of international Feminist zone.

    Comment by Downunder — Tue 4th September 2018 @ 2:45 pm

  6. A GOOD Lawyer said to me yesterday ” if a young girl does not have a father figure in her life , it is in all likely hood that she will look for a father figure and will likely join with the statistics of teenage pregnancy “…and so it goes,, this is the quandry that has become a rude reality in our country.

    If they can not change the welfare system then change needs to happen so as to prevent this from continuing,,, Fathers can be the key.

    Men never fail to amaze me, they can be so emotionally wise and their anger comes from frustration, not because they are actually VIOLENT.

    Women are emotional, but often use this as a tool to protect themselves, they are not too wise with THEIR emotion and can spread fear through threats that are all too easily upheld by the likes of Protection Orders.

    Comment by mama — Wed 5th September 2018 @ 12:46 pm

  7. Not that I disagree with you #6

    Even with a supportive father the Feminent ideology that pervades

    The education system
    The media
    Social Media
    The workforce
    And the general social conversation another group of girls have inadvertently been sucked a false illusion of the feminist utopia.

    There’s a range of behaviors across society that need to be identified as brought about by Feminism.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Wed 5th September 2018 @ 1:00 pm

  8. Of course, and you can’t stop these outside forces.. but is interesting that the real girls I know that have gone on to have real relationships and have real families did actually have real father figures in their lives,,, it is a strong sense of belonging that has been imparted with them and they know compromise and other valuable tools to add to their emotional armour..

    Real relationships come with arguments that are not so much won but argued out, forgiveness shown etc…relationship lessons are necessary for young eyes and ears.

    Comment by mama — Wed 5th September 2018 @ 1:40 pm

  9. Stats NZ reports that the total fertility rate in 2017 was 1.81 births per woman. This is the country’s lowest recorded level.

    Although the number of births was up 180 from 2016 to 59,610, the bigger population meant in 2017 the average dropped. In 2016, the average was 1.87.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Fri 14th September 2018 @ 8:49 am

  10. There was a study in the USA of women who had very good careers and had reached 40 without having any children. The results were surprising. Overwhelmingly the women said they would never do that again given another start and many said they felt they had been conned because they had followed the messages from university, the media etc. The most happiness you can ever have is in having children, in spite of what we are being sold.

    Comment by freaked out — Sat 15th September 2018 @ 9:18 am

  11. This is a study in progress on the fucked up pieces of legal shit that infest the Family Court.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Sat 15th September 2018 @ 9:33 am

  12. When I was at university I knew we were being sold a story when every single topic was under the feminist umbrella,especially when there are countless other ideologies available. It struck home when history of the world wars did not even mention Churchill (they cannot risk the spotlight being turned on him) but was instead really all about the woman’s role and how gender roles changed during that debacle. We don’t suddenly ‘wake up’; it is a gradual dawning but something that did help on the journey is the book ‘Cruel Hoax’ by Henry Makow (PhD).

    Comment by freaked out — Sat 15th September 2018 @ 11:45 am

  13. That book looks like an interesting read.

    Yesterday I heard that Jacinda Adern was speaking to school students about feminism, I really do not think this is correct for someone in her position.

    Comment by mama — Sat 15th September 2018 @ 12:02 pm

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