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Undisclosed Drug Use

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 6:04 pm Wed 17th October 2018

The female of the species is well known for hiding what they think you may not like in order to get the attention of a male.

Leaving aside alcohol and cigarettes, there are other addictions that are disruptive and sometimes dangerous within relationships.

Meths use amongst females is perhaps more obvious but sugar and food addictions and prescription drugs perhaps less obvious.

What are your experiences of hiding drug use or other addictions in relationships?

Perhaps you have been the guilty party or someone close to you.


  1. Well this was undisclosed, but burst into the light of day, with a bang …

    Two people have been burnt in an explosion while huffing butane at a house in Hamilton. 

    Residents around the Hamilton East suburb were woken to a loud “boom” around 4.10am on Friday. 

    Initial calls to the fire service reported a house fire but it turned out there had been an explosion in a room at a home on Coates St. 

    Two residents at the house were using a butane cannister to huff in a small room, Waikato police Senior Sergeant Scott Miller said. 

    Somehow, possibly through a cigarette or open flame, it has ignited, causing an explosion in the room that’s blown out the windows and shaken the house. 

    Both the man and woman at the home suffered non-life threatening burns, Miller said. 

    Who … sits in a house and ‘huffs butane’?

    Comment by Downunder — Fri 19th October 2018 @ 8:19 am

  2. Gambling is another issue that shows up when hope is lost. TAB, on-line gambling, casinos, overseas scams, churches all play roles that impoverish families. My partner made it difficult for me to care for her when she was dying from Parkinson Disease, by her gambling. The doctors (Privacy Act) and drugs made the situation much harder for me to handle.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Fri 19th October 2018 @ 8:50 am

  3. Sorry to hear it Murray.
    I hope things a peaceful now.
    Must have been very difficult indeed.

    Comment by Voices.. — Fri 19th October 2018 @ 9:07 am

  4. I read stories of couples, where the man’s gambling later left the wife homeless, so I was fortunate to get off lightly. But I can’t see me taking the same gamble again.

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Fri 19th October 2018 @ 9:37 am

  5. I am a bit of a thrill seeker and i would guess it would be quite dramatic to blow a room up like that.
    They almost qualified for a Darwin Award.
    It seems an indictment of our society, that butane would seem attractive. Maybe someone should invent a mental health system or an organisation to protect children?

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Fri 19th October 2018 @ 9:40 am

  6. #2 Amazing how much someone can put in a short comment.

    I thought about that for a moment, Murray, and felt like I had read a book.

    Comment by Downunder — Fri 19th October 2018 @ 10:24 am

  7. If done in the open, butane is much safer than the failed psychiatric drug candidates (falsely advertised by the media and politicians as “synthetic marijuana”).
    So maybe it isn’t such a stupid idea after all?
    Makes real marijuana seem like the best choice.
    I suppose it will take years before we can work out how to setup political bribes, taxes and controls on it?

    Comment by MurrayBacon — Fri 19th October 2018 @ 11:04 am

  8. Who speaks for the children when both parents are addicted:

    Children are being admitted to hospital suffering serious harm from cannabis or synthetic cannabinoids use – some of them poisoned by their parents’ drug paraphernalia.

    Among them were siblings aged 5, 8 and 15 from Porirua, revealed this month to have eaten food prepared with a contaminated cooking implement. Speaking at the time, Detective Senior Sergeant Grant Ferguson said the young children were “severely affected” and lucky to survive. “This stuff is very dangerous and it’s shown recently, nationally, that it’s fatal.”

    Comment by Downunder — Mon 26th November 2018 @ 9:14 am

  9. In 2018 we see for the first time drugged driving causing more fatalities than drunk driving.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Sat 29th December 2018 @ 4:27 pm

  10. Everyone need to stop going on about that House
    blow up and yes sm people walk away not hurt but I am the one who got badly burnt and was in a coma
    For a wk and now I am still get better from it so watch wat u say about people and jumped to cousins as u don’t know wat happened that nite and I do and one of my close family got burn not bad as I was so please stop

    Comment by not say my name — Fri 18th January 2019 @ 6:27 am

  11. @not say my name

    Well here’s hoping you can spell it.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Fri 18th January 2019 @ 8:25 am

  12. Interesting that this male offender got home detention? More equality in sentencing.

    Also another drugged driver fatality.

    “An Oamaru man has been sentenced to four months home detention over the hit-and-run death of 14-year-old Zara Blackie in October last year.

    He was also ordered to pay $4000 reparation to Zara’s family.

    Joshua John Chellew, 30, pleaded guilty to one charge of failing to stop and ascertain injury after he hit Zara with his car in Oamaru’s Severn St, near the intersection with Cross St, about 10.40pm on October 23.

    At his first appearance in the Oamaru District Court last year, Chellew was granted …”

    There is a risk here, I think, and it’s this:

    We’ve got used to women offenders getting home detection. Seeing men dished out lighter equivalent sentences rather than women having been given equivalent sentences as men (which would have needed a new women’s prison) the risk is that we’ll see vigilante hits on men during their home detention.

    Comment by Downunder — Wed 27th February 2019 @ 5:42 pm

  13. @12. Apparently police reported that the girl walked on to the road, stumbled and fell in front of the guy’s car which had no chance of avoiding hitting her. He was convicted of failing to stop to ascertain injury. This isn’t an example of an accident caused by ‘drugged driving’ nor is it an example of greater gender equality in sentencing. Compare this man’s home detention sentence with that of Rouxie Le Roux who was so drunk and stoned that she hit a male who was cycling normally and did nothing to contribute to the accident, and she also subsequently made fun on social media of the killing. She also was not a suitable candidate for home detention as shown by her recent breaches. Remember too that home detention is actually a prison sentence that is served in an approved residence. Obviously more comfortable physically than prison but people frequently find it more emotionally difficult to be imprisoned in the community than in a jail.

    Comment by Man X Norton — Wed 27th February 2019 @ 11:21 pm

  14. That’s a slightly biased answer @13

    But Ms Sellars said many people had become emotionally invested in the case without knowing all the details, such as the fact that Kraatskow rode through a red light while her client was going through a green.

    “We need to take a step back and understand why we have the justice system. And that’s to stop mob mentality of people who don’t know all of the facts thinking they know better.”

    While she admits her client was speeding and had consumed intoxicants, she says Le Roux couldn’t see Kraatskow when he crossed her path.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Thu 28th February 2019 @ 6:47 am

  15. @ Man X Norton

    The media report is below.

    Both cases involve drugs and alcohol.

    In both cases the circumstances are influenced by the deceased party, and without doubt alcohol and drugs, which in both cases could not be properly established because neither stopped.

    There is a considerable difference in the relationships between the offenders and the deceaseds’ families, which contributed to the male’s lesser sentence.

    There is also an age difference in the offenders. 18 and 30 years which creates different social expectations.

    A review of the girl’s case, worse of the two, stated no grounds for appeal, which set a bench mark for this sentence.

    There’s a difference to consider $4,000 reparation.

    But I come back to my original concern that if we see an increase in similar sentencing as we see here, then males do run a higher risk of revenge attacks.

    Media details:

    Zara Blackie, 14, of Oamaru, was killed when hit by a car on State Highway 1.

    The court was told that Chellew’s car was unregistered and unwarranted when it struck and killed the teenager on Severn St (State Highway 1) in Oamaru about 10.30pm on October 23, 2018.

    Chellew had alcohol and cannabis in his system when he drove to buy food and cigarettes.

    He was on his way home and crossing a short bridge over the Oamaru Stream, on Severn St (State Highway 1), when Zara ran out from behind an abutment and “appeared to trip or stumble” into the path of his car.

    A police summary said “the victim’s head and upper body struck the left front corner of the defendant’s vehicle, smashing the headlight and causing moderate panel damage”.

    “The defendant slowed momentarily before accelerating away from the scene of the collision,” the police statement said. It added that crash scene calculations estimated the defendant’s speed at the time of impact between 33 and 48 kilometres per hour.

    Defence lawyer Katherin Henry said “the first he (Chellew) saw of her was when she was literally in front of the bonnet”.

    “He had absolutely no time to react. He had just enough wherewithal to see that others were going to the aid of the victim.

    “He allowed himself to slip into a shock reaction, which was to put his hand on the steering wheel and continue.”

    Henry said Chellew, after a “fitful night”, handed himself into police first thing in the morning

    Comment by Downunder — Thu 28th February 2019 @ 7:23 am

  16. There’s another point that perhaps older readers might pick up on and that’s lawyers talking to the media on behalf of their client rather than a court reporter writing up what is said to the court.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Thu 28th February 2019 @ 10:17 am

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