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3 Men tried to take their own life after false allegations of a sexual nature.

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 7:43 am Sun 22nd October 2023

This is a 55-minute video. It is not a documentary. It is a summary of facts and reasons for sentencing by a Judge.

Eleanor Williams aged 22 set out to destroy 3 men’s reputations. It included smashing her own face and body with a hammer she purchased. Williams made claims of being used by gangs for prostitution and had her vagina cut with a knife then raped. The women decided to post many allegations on Facebook.

Many men were interviewed, leaving an indelible stain on their reputations. It included damage to homes by the public, being abused in the street, and not being able to go and shop in town. Social services had received anonymous calls about one of the men claiming he was not fit to look after his own child. He moved house, he was abused by a neighbour, online threats were made.

The Judge said Eleanor Williams shows no signs of remorse.

The men do not think they will ever recover and suffer ongoing local abuse.

3 of the male victims tried to take their own life after false allegations of a sexual nature.

The sentence was 8.5 years, of which half will be served in prison. Had the men been convicted, a life sentence of 20 years.

In Ireland, no such allegation can be public until a guilty verdict has been reached. Why doesn’t NZ have this law?


  1. I think publishing happens, but name suppression is a decision.
    Naming a person, may be in the public’s interests.
    The police hoping, other victims come forward.
    The offender part of a group, the other members blamed.
    The police are certain, they caught the serious offender.

    So making name suppression arbitrary, has problems.
    Maybe it’s a good thing, judges make decisions.
    But I don’t think it’s a solution, to gossip in a community.
    The false accuser out to destroy, uses everyone.
    The accusations alone, you become guilty anyway.

    Our problem in NZ, is not addressing false accusations.
    In a perfect world, you could name every accused.
    No allegation, would ever be false.
    But that’s not our world, you can’t trust anyone.
    Could the police answer, the true % of false accusations.

    This subject of the post is a result, the problem is dishonesty.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Sun 22nd October 2023 @ 7:50 pm

  2. The case is a stereotype, of false allegations.
    The female gets intoxicated, and in some way embarrassed.
    So out of nowhere, she makes up a story.
    To defend her honour, she makes an allegation.

    The interesting part, the first case looked like nonsense.
    Women were present, so how did the male offend.
    Even the story of the offending, was all over the place.
    The other cases happened, because she could.

    When the second case happens, what did the police do.
    No alarm went off, that she makes false allegations.
    The men’s lives got wrecked, one after the other.
    Luckily for the men, forensics exposed a lie.

    Rape is rare, the endless accusations don’t make sense.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Sun 5th November 2023 @ 7:13 pm

  3. It’s hard to imagine, being falsely accused.
    Even more so, if the accusations are believed.
    It’s different from wrongly accused, that’s an accident.
    But to the accused, they are no different in effect.

    Why does it seem, women are not falsely accused.
    Women commit lots of crime, but we don’t hear of cases.
    Things seem very gendered, in who makes false accusations.
    There is no women’s group, outraged at an epidemic.

    It’s not just sex crimes, it is also domestic violence.
    It takes little imagination, to ruin a mans life.
    If it were women’s lives ruined, we would know about it.
    But I suspect it is an epidemic, false accusations are normal.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Wed 29th November 2023 @ 10:10 pm

  4. I look at US news, a big part of there news is accusations.
    No matter the case, the public gets to know the story.
    The person accused is helpless, they cannot stop the media.
    It’s even worse in the US, it’s not just criminal cases.
    You can sue, and not even need proof of a crime.
    If lawyers had a heaven, it would look like the US.
    Everything would be legislated, you need a lawyer for everything.

    What a frightening place the US, it sounds a very predatory idea.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 19th January 2024 @ 9:35 pm

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