What Marama Said
The fallout from the Albert Park protest in the weekend continues. Hipkins supports Davidson on the basis that she had a violent altercation with a mother cycle.
The handle bar of a motorcycle hit Davidson as she was waiting to use a pedestrian crossing seemingly without consequence. This was approximately 12 minutes before a Counterspin journalist recorded the statement from the prevention of violence minister.
Marama Davidson has according to media issued an apology to “our white cis prime minister” which I doubt came with any real sincerity but as a matter of protocol.
Right in the middle of the fine print from the Minister of Domestic and Sexual Violence is the good ole chestnut … “WE KNOW” …
Comment by Evan Myers — Tue 28th March 2023 @ 4:06 pm
Well it seems public servant Marama Davidson refuses to apologise publicly to white cis men. You know a couple of days back I discovered she means white Cisgendar men. That is a person born male, is still male. Does this mean we are now to have laws or special penalties that only apply to white males?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/03/marama-davidson-refuses-to-apologise-publicly-over-white-cis-men-comment.html
https://www.thoughtco.com/definition-of-cisman-721260
Comment by Lukenz — Tue 28th March 2023 @ 5:08 pm
She is correct in some ways, white men commit crimes.
There are plenty, in prison for horrendous things.
So her argument must be about race, and statistics.
White men commit higher rates, of this crime.
You can be certain, there is a crime and it’s true.
But that requires honesty, about race.
Every race must be examined, for every type of crime.
Only then, is she telling the truth.
Who does she blame, for statistics about her race.
Are those crimes, not genetic like the white mans crimes.
If you stereotype, you stop judging the individual.
We get domestic violence statistics, by doing that.
If there is equal violence, the male is arrested.
Despite being also violent, the female is not arrested.
She can say men are more violent, as a result.
She could make the same argument, about race.
Police stereotyping, targeting more of a race.
But there’s no race policy, but there is for gender.
Politically this is not good, as she controls justice.
She makes policy, for the police to follow.
She funds things, like services to groups.
Not a cent spent, on women’s domestic violence prevention.
And certainly no policy, on addressing female sex crimes.
Good luck minister, explaining how white men did that.
You did it, minister.
Comment by DJ Ward — Tue 28th March 2023 @ 8:04 pm
I think the timeline is bollocks. If you look at the video of her walking and talking in the street with a few other people, she doesn’t look in the slightest bit injured. I’d bet money she was hit by the motorcycle AFTER she made her idiotic statement. She’d changed the events around so it appears that she “misspoke” AFTER being hit by a motorcycle. Have a look at the video. Does she look injured ? Not to me. Apparently she went to A+E too. Not too injured to attend a protest first though ….
Comment by golfa — Wed 29th March 2023 @ 7:18 pm
I don’t like, arguments about race.
Sadly, I don’t think it’s going away.
In thousands of years, there will be new races.
Humans on earth, will interbreed to be one race.
Humans on the moon, will evolve to be new humans.
They will be very different, from earthlings.
Humans on Mars, will become there own race.
Humans will evolve, to live in spaceships and asteroids.
Will there not be four, species of humans.
Comment by DJ Ward — Wed 29th March 2023 @ 8:37 pm
#4 I think you will find the time line is correct and the bullocks is Davidson being hit by a motorcycle.
At worst she received a glancing blow from a passing handle bar but the trauma of the occasion was the Prime minister’s excuse for understanding that his minister was not considered about what she was saying.
Of course, the same standards wouldn’t be applied to a man walking down the road being angry about what happened 12 minutes earlier.
Comment by Downunder — Fri 31st March 2023 @ 8:46 am
White cis men, is very sexist.
The normal sexuality of a male, needs a name.
It’s not used as a good term, it’s a bad term.
Everything said, has negative connotations.
White cis men do commit sex crimes, and are violent.
Even the rich, and the powerful.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300916219/prominent-businessman-convicted-of-sexually-abusing-three-men-can-now-be-named
Technically it’s not, a white cis male.
It’s confronting, because males do get raped by men.
White cis males, can be victims as well.
Totally ignored, is females doing similar things.
White cis males, are just free easy targets.
If the offending never happened, was he still the enemy.
Rich and white, the image of the patriarchy and privilege.
His being gay, collateral damage of racism and sexism.
He is still white and he is still male, he is still the enemy.
Multiple accusations, is very convincing.
Lucky it’s not the US, the millions would disappear.
Every little thing decades past, would become a lawsuit.
85 years is a long time, being a predator.
Comment by DJ Ward — Wed 28th June 2023 @ 7:56 pm