Child Support amendments delayed a second time
Child support overhaul delayed
Revenue Minister Todd McClay announced today the first of the reforms in the Child Support Scheme Amendment Act would be delayed a year because of the “complexity of the reforms”.
“Inland Revenue has informed me… it needs more time to implement the new scheme to the high standard that the Government expects.”
It is the second time the changes have been delayed – the Social Services Select committee held back the changes so IRD would have time to adjust its systems.
I wonder if IRD will be forced to pay the government substantial penalty payments for being overdue in their service delivery.
I may contact the IRD Child Support team and advise them that “My newly assessed Child Support payments would be delayed a year because of the “ridiculous over-assessment of my real income”, and that “I need more time to raise my salary to the high standard that the IRD expects.”
Honestly, what a complete sham.
Since Novapay has been such a disaster and the government is taking back direct control of teachers wages should we expect that they will be taking back control of child support since IRD has make such a disaster out of the management of it.
Comment by Downunder — Tue 12th August 2014 @ 3:08 pm
I think that you are taking cs too seriously? Like fc$, cs$ only damage people who take it seriously, as pre$ented.
To survive, you need to be street wise and pragmatic.
You cannot serve your children in any way, if you don’t survive. Budget to survive, that is why I am a troll living under a motorway bridge… Most NCP(men) cannot afford pride and survival…
Comment by MurrayBacon — Tue 12th August 2014 @ 4:03 pm
@Murray – That’s the only place for trolls, they’re banned on the net.
Comment by Downunder — Tue 12th August 2014 @ 4:09 pm
This is old news. The link provided states the changes will now kick in on 1/4/15 (covering CS tax); and a year later for the other changes. There was an extensive thread here in MENZ at the time.
Comment by OMG! You're *(%*%(^ — Tue 12th August 2014 @ 7:09 pm
@OMG – yes but this is a new author to the site and I think we should offer a little encouragement, and it is probably time the issue was revisited anyway, just to see how things are progressing.
Comment by Downunder — Tue 12th August 2014 @ 7:37 pm
Yes this is old news BUT we all await to see if they can actually deliver as promised or if this does become another NOVOPay.
I am assured by high up in IRD it is on track and ready to roll. Their new calculator will be on the IRD website shortly (August 2014)after the first one was taken down due to the error rate it produced.
Comment by Allan Harvey — Tue 12th August 2014 @ 11:19 pm
I don’t think the changes will happen due to the election.
Comment by too tired — Wed 13th August 2014 @ 1:46 am
I am very sure that Mr Peter Dunne hoped this change would be an election winner for him and his now defunct party.
Unfortunately the first attempt overseen by Mr Dunne almost became a NOVOPay and he got caught in compromising situation and became persona non-gratia for a while. However his seat is still useful for Mr Key and otherwise unwinnable for National so he is likely to be back but on a shorter leash.
Comment by Allan Harvey — Wed 13th August 2014 @ 8:59 am
I hope the original was correct; I await a massive reduction in CS tax …
Comment by OMG! You're *(%*%(^ — Wed 13th August 2014 @ 8:14 pm
Makes me think that because so many men had reductions that there must have been many complaints from the thieves that there haul was going to be so drastically reduced. Now the calculators need to be tweaked. Maybe a fairer system wasn’t supposed to highlight how ripped off NCP are!!!
Comment by Too Tired — Wed 13th August 2014 @ 10:23 pm
All the millions invested in this child-support calculator.
A research grant for a moral compass for women would have been a better investment and much more cost effective in the long run, oh and great for the kids too.
Comment by Downunder — Thu 14th August 2014 @ 10:20 am
Magnificent
Criticism with comedy
Shakespeare
Robin
And his Merry MENZ
Not Human
Something More
The 1% that angels like Charles Darwin Fought For
Fighting at His desk, With a Pen
In Silence
In Quite Contemplation
Ready to Strike Out of This World
The Power of the Word
The Pope was Supposed to Hang on to IT
But Gave Up
What an EMOTION
What were the Church’s….(cackle,cackle)
What Month is IT
Things could be fine any Minute.
We are Going in an Never Ending Story
An Endless Emotion.
We Have Run Circles Around the Sun.
Still Looking For That Rainbow, The Holy Grail.
I found IT
MMMM
OUCH,PAIN,FEEL,SEE,SILENCE,DESTITION
No to the never ending insanity
You alone can fix it
Fight fear with love
Comedy helps you see the politician trying but failing.
Let them say anything they like about you to.
Then sit at the park bench together.
Even in the silence of the loneliness of nobody being there.
For you with love.
Can grab hold of anything with might.
Luke Skywalker With the FORCE
Fighting for GOOD
Can Throw Evil Things as Far as IT Likes
It Will Just Take TIME.
MMMM
I AM ME
I have SEEN THE LIGHT
I have FELT THE FORCE
I HAVE something that saves me
IT is my SECRET for NOW
I FEEL FINE
I AM IN A SAFE PLACE
I AM ME
Even if you don’t believe me
AND MY SUFFERING
Ill fight in this corner, with my pen
With Patient, Virtuous, and Merry, MENZ
You HUMANS can stay out there with Junes STABING IN THE BACK
MY SON
I Love with Love
I DO Not Love with Hate
I AM ME
Comment by The man in Absentia — Thu 14th August 2014 @ 5:26 pm
Nihil Bone Sine Labour
Is what’s carved into me
That’s a lot of calving
look around you
Magnificent
Comment by The man in Absentia — Thu 14th August 2014 @ 5:40 pm
Guys get an auditor and review your child support accounts. Or audit yourself. IRD is asking for the same money/ assessment twice to three times … i.e they will claim twice for a same month…
and then put it down as overdues
Comment by kiranjiharr — Thu 14th August 2014 @ 7:43 pm
Whats stoping your ability to confront a fear.
Is the limitation a car that you could have as much fun in it as you would like to have but ultimately the computer programme that runs it MMMM wouldn’t want to let you crash
But ultimately you will, because fear will ultimately have to hold you back. Unless you CHEAT (cackle,cackle) for profit that is GOOD. But JUDGEMENT, HURTS, with HIDEN, REWARDS.
Looked at what ANGELS are LIKE, SUFFER, with DARK.
You make BUITIFUL MUSIC, LORDE and MYLEY, MMMM
YIN YANG (cackle,cackle)
Myley makes love to you while hanging on the ball of your chain.
Lorde is a place where you would actually want to make love to her
69
Shades of GREY or was that Light
Maybe I was LYING about how all encompassing the Rainbow is
What BALL?(cackle,cackle)
MY SON
WHAT A FURY HIS DEATH WILL BE
Unless you can get to go to other stars before I come back.
WHITCH is EASY.
Some of you have already read it (cackle,cackle).
Comment by The man in Absentia — Thu 14th August 2014 @ 11:24 pm
Staring from a distance
Hearing for an instance
Caring from afar
Gearing up the car
Bearings by the stars
Tearing up some tar
Jearing across the bar
Wearing patients thin
Hearing you cant win
Nearing but apart
Jearing you depart
Wearing a broken heart
Comment by The man in Absentia — Fri 15th August 2014 @ 7:44 pm
Broken down and old
My spare parts cant be sold
Things are getting cold
And death is taking hold
Time is but a fold
In a life that’s not so bold
Of its story that is never told
With good memories growing mold
Life is just a moment
Long enough to realise your mistakes
But to short to do anything about them
If life was ment to be easy
God wouldn’t have created women
Life is full of opertunities
Luckely enough we all find one or two, MMMM
Life is full of opertunities
Trouble is we spend all our time kicking ourselves
For the one we just missed not to
Notice the one that is just walking past us
Comment by The man in Absentia — Fri 15th August 2014 @ 7:55 pm
I did not know this was going to happen to me
I calved it in me to deny it
I wrote some of these poems when I calved it into me to deny it
what a deamon
fear god, god is love?
son god, god is daughter?
I suffered all the fears of the son
that my body and mind could take
put myself in the body of him, with my mind, and feel the suffering.
whatch you whatching him
feel all your suffering for him to
that was just the son
imagine him, imagining me, forcing me to be him, so you could be judged. Again
forcing me to spend my life not knowing he was doing it because the programme has no choice.
Purgatory, looking at what you created from his good work
and immesurable fear
Im telling my daughter how you treated me, and I feel her suffering as you crush her spirit for life to next to nothing, by the future as it is treating her. MMMM
She suffers eternal suffering to save you, or gives up and sends you to the scrapheap.
I even know her and his name.
Judgement is are you intelligent enough to save me, or not.
got 1 of them, still got 2 to go.
I cannot tell a lie.
I am not allowed to ask for either of them. Or give you hints.
She could if like humans, showed effort, and made major gains, was allowed another try.
go backwards mmmm
I know all the emotions that I can think of
I am now suffering my daughters life until I am saved.
I am suffering all of her fears, yet lived them all already, understanding the son.
not the on hear daughter
but in the future
When death turns up at your door again. And creation. together
The emotion LIE is missing.
Do you understand yet.
Its physics, and evolution
Its an emotional problem
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sat 16th August 2014 @ 2:51 am
When the wind blows
Hear screams of nature
Trees taking deep breaths
When the wind blows
Water rippling unrelenting
Waves on the shore
When the wind blows
Shield yourself from the sand
Blown up in your eyes
When the wind blows
More danger for someone
Hurricane danger somewhere
When the wind blows
Hear screams of nature
Trees taking deep breaths
When the wind blows
Man has to answer
The screams of nature
Trees taking deep breaths
When the wind blows
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sat 16th August 2014 @ 8:22 am
Wake up in the morning
Snowflakes clearly visible
Wake up from your dream
Daylight is dawning brightly
Wake up to the sound of morning
Electric Blast
A Modern Chirp
Of birds in the morning
But snowflakes clearly visible
Are lost in its dream
Skiing wondrous mountains
Concentrations gone and been
Waking in the morning
Wear nature must have been
(cackle,cackle), its a never ending story.
I can read it like a book
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sat 16th August 2014 @ 8:30 am
Paint the walls brightly
Exagerate the scene
Imagination is but a scream
Reality or dream
Picture of your minds scene
Acted out for me
A masterpiece captured
Painting the walls brightly
In expression of a mind bend
Couloured technicolour
No mater what the mind sends
selfconcous sets the pace
exaggerates the scene
an expression of hate
in realities face
captured by the masterpiece
everybodies dream
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sat 16th August 2014 @ 8:38 am
The position of power
Overwelming in context
Beet back the greedy
Shy away from the poor
Kneel down to extremists
They stand in your way
Forcing out answers
There just playing games
Following a road you know
Bright lights in your way
Cats eye guide your way
Just kids playing games
Dressed up as adults
Perswauding your way
Detor untold behold
Open your eyes
To stare back and laugh
Let them catch your glimps of reality
To catch your chance
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sat 16th August 2014 @ 8:46 am
Dainty little flower
Natures utmost power
With fragrance in the air
Blossoming with vigour
And do I realy care
Buy a rose on valentines
Your seductive ploy
Rumage through vines entwine
Seezing with you bouquet
The trivial pursuit
Tinge my horizon
Poppies blood red
Tripping in your hue
A brave man once bled
Nothing I can do
Only to catch a buzzing bee
With nectar flavoured candy
Next to nothing for him to see
Beget with shrewd power
Dianty little flower
PS its a secret, that was physics, (cackle, cackle)
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sat 16th August 2014 @ 8:56 am
This pen while writing nicely, pisses me of
Cant see the end of a rainbow
Always looking from afar
Cant see the pot of gold
Promised we are told
Old wivestales of a rainbow
Inspired greed
Cant see the pot of gold
But I see what I see
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sun 17th August 2014 @ 7:06 am
Space we come to admire
From a distance we aspire
Stare speckled universe
A daunting distance free
Light escaping everywhere
Never to be set free
Catch a glimpse of yesterday
Where today is all we see
Cant escape fast enough
Because tomorrow has to be
But we may always remember
Today will always be
Stare speckled universe
Never to be set free
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sun 17th August 2014 @ 7:14 am
Money the almighty dollar
Never enough to go around
Slaving in the workshop
Whatching the clock tick down
Waiting for the pay check
Spent before its found
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sun 17th August 2014 @ 7:19 am
Sitting in your bedroom
Not knowing what to do
To break away
To something new
Cant even tell your future
Not separate from your past
Only a bleak future
Trying to break apart
Running away to something
Because everything you want is distant
Even where you are
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sun 17th August 2014 @ 7:23 am
Awkward moments in the dark
Not knowing where to start
Cold feet a funny start
Shiver in the dark
Chance meeting don’t suppose
Coaked from a distance
Cant offer no resistance
Cares disposed
Never met before
A primitive charm I cant explain
Causing actions I cant refrain
Personality we both explore
Cant separate us apart
But together we both depart
To awkward moments in the dark
Not knowing where to start
PS did those that study Physics just notice two Atoms fly past each other, I did (cackle,cackle)
Comment by The man in Absentia — Sun 17th August 2014 @ 7:31 am
The new 2015 child support calculator was put up this week on the IRD website of what you might pay / receive.
$1000 a month for two kids is going up to $1200 a month because of no shared care!!!!!!!!
So much for the 5% which may psy any extra $600 plus a year thats a $2400 increase.
Also if I put in the ex’s wage as $24 k or $34 k she will still receive basically the same from me give or take $4 a week
Comment by hateseeingmymanscrewed — Sat 30th August 2014 @ 6:00 pm
Woohoo! CS should half! $10K back into my pocket. I am so happeediddilyoki!
Comment by Broke & Broker — Sun 31st August 2014 @ 8:59 am
Awesome for you & congrats!!!!! The ex controls & denies access thus the no shared care as a way of reducing payments. Cant afford CS & a lawyer & kids older so just gonba hang in there a few more years then bingo!
Comment by hateseeingmymanscrewed — Sun 31st August 2014 @ 9:24 am
Hello,
Does anyone understand the new income definition from 2016 ? Cheers.
Comment by GreatFather — Wed 17th September 2014 @ 6:22 pm
Could someone explain how can the IRD estimate earning capabilities is that person is actually not earning such level ?
If I earn $80k, how could the IRD believe I should earn $120k potentially ?
Also, does anyone understand the definition of income from 2016 ? Looks like anyone with a business will see its income based on not his salary/wage but its business income. How does that work ? Especially if you need cash for Capex or debt repayment. Cheers
Comment by GreatFather — Wed 17th September 2014 @ 7:14 pm
Source
Comment by Downunder — Mon 12th January 2015 @ 4:39 pm